Notice of Reclamation

[Kadin]

BeachBunny's a broad, fyi.

 

Glad to see that the irony of the name Mensa HQ wasn't lost on this crowd.  I think.  Then again I could be wrong and ya'll could seriously be convinced that we think we're the smartest in the room.  

It's okay. You guys are only pretending to be retarded, right?

[George W. Bush]

ITT: Mensa HQ members run circles trying to defend their raiding and not face consequences, while still not paying reps.

[Buorhann]

It's okay. You guys are only pretending to be retarded, right?

 

I just find it amusing you're in every thread that Mensa HQ is mentioned.  I like you being a groupie.

 

 

ITT: Mensa HQ members run circles trying to defend their raiding and not face consequences, while still not paying reps.

 

 

What consequences are we facing?

[Spite]

It's okay. You guys are only pretending to be retarded, right?

 

What's your specific problem with mensa? Or are you just name calling for no real reason?

[Avruch]

ITT: Mensa HQ members run circles trying to defend their raiding and not face consequences, while still not paying reps.

 

No one is paying reps now, brah. There's a war on. 

[Buorhann]

Yay economy boost on the trade market!

[Tenshibo]

ITT: Mensa HQ members run circles trying to defend their raiding and not face consequences, while still not paying reps.

 

If you read what happened, Mensa was willing to pay reps, SI simply refused to have their members contact Pfeiffer - something that has worked in all other situations for us.

 

So, ITT: SI were unwilling to be diplomatic, started a war, and are about to get shit on.

 

PS: what consequence are we trying to not face? What, these forums are going to not like us? Oh boo hoo; our feelings :/

[Spooner]

I was attacked by Socialist International. I would like to claim reparations, please. I attacked no members of SI.

 

Around $300,000 in infrastructure damage. I will await my reparations.

 

(Side note, declaring war on an alliance leagues stronger than you is stupid as shit. I don't know what y'all sought to gain from this alliance war.)

[Callisto]

I don't think Mensa HQ truly understands the repercussions of their actions. Let me teach you a little something Mensa HQ, when you raid an established alliance, and I don't care how inactive the members were, you better be prepared to face the consequences of your raiding.  Also, when making negotiations for reparations, having the raided members PM you for their reps is just nonsensical, there is a leader of SI for a reason, the members of an alliance shouldn't have to deal with every single raider every time they're raided, that's the entire purpose of an alliance, protection and security. I think you ought to leave PnW if you can't learn this simple rule Mensa HQ

[Prefontaine]

 

Lots of people stating they think Mensa's wrong, and there will be consequences. Shame I doubt anyone will actually do anything about it other than continue to sling pointless judgments. If the members who were raided weren't that inactive why was it such a big deal to have the reps sent directly to the person when they logged in next? I mean hell, negotiate. SI wanted the reps to the bank, Mensa wanted the reps to the individual after a message, sending the reps directly to the nation the next time they're seen logging in seems like a pretty simple compromise. Or I mean you could both refuse to budge in end up having an alliance wa-- oh right.

[Desertfalcon]

I don't think Mensa HQ truly understands the repercussions of their actions. Let me teach you a little something Mensa HQ, when you raid an established alliance, and I don't care how inactive the members were, you better be prepared to face the consequences of your raiding. 

 

I think we're all prepared to face the consequences of the raiding. In fact the consequences of SI attacking our leaders have been quite profitable for us so far.

[Pfeiffer]

I don't think Mensa HQ truly understands the repercussions of their actions. Let me teach you a little something Mensa HQ, when you raid an established alliance, and I don't care how inactive the members were, you better be prepared to face the consequences of your raiding.  Also, when making negotiations for reparations, having the raided members PM you for their reps is just nonsensical, there is a leader of SI for a reason, the members of an alliance shouldn't have to deal with every single raider every time they're raided, that's the entire purpose of an alliance, protection and security. I think you ought to leave PnW if you can't learn this simple rule Mensa HQ

 

Nah, we like it here.

[Delyruin]

Pfeiffer asking for the in-actives to message him for their personal reparations does not seem so grossly offensive to me. The leader of SI attacking the leader of Mensa HQ and trying to disguise it as some strange gentleman's duel is highly amusing though.

 

[Thedark]

I don't think Mensa HQ truly understands the repercussions of their actions. Let me teach you a little something Mensa HQ, when you raid an established alliance, and I don't care how inactive the members were, you better be prepared to face the consequences of your raiding.  Also, when making negotiations for reparations, having the raided members PM you for their reps is just nonsensical, there is a leader of SI for a reason, the members of an alliance shouldn't have to deal with every single raider every time they're raided, that's the entire purpose of an alliance, protection and security. I think you ought to leave PnW if you can't learn this simple rule Mensa HQ

 

We completely understand, we did something, someone didn't like it, and now we're going to roll them.

 

The consequences of this raiding is actually just making a lot of money and having a couple of people cry on the forums, which has been a popcorn fest for us.

 

If the alliance is there for protection and security, I don't think Socialist International is a very good alliance as it has put it's members in danger!

 

And lastly there is no point in us leaving just because you're upset that someone doesn't play the game you want them to.

Edited April 14, 2015 by Thedark

[Mayor]

 

Lots of people stating they think Mensa's wrong, and there will be consequences. Shame I doubt anyone will actually do anything about it other than continue to sling pointless judgments. If the members who were raided weren't that inactive why was it such a big deal to have the reps sent directly to the person when they logged in next? I mean hell, negotiate. SI wanted the reps to the bank, Mensa wanted the reps to the individual after a message, sending the reps directly to the nation the next time they're seen logging in seems like a pretty simple compromise. Or I mean you could both refuse to budge in end up having an alliance wa-- oh right.

 

While I agree somewhat. Having to send messages to the members, while they were being raided, wait for replies depending on how active they were, just seems so tedious and a huge waste of time and kind of an insult. I don't really support either side but in the same situation I would probably just counter-raid those guys to dissuade them from raiding anymore as best I could.

If money was sent to the bank then it is settled right there are not through a million messages to everybody which seems like a cluster-!@#$. If Pfeiffer negotiates on behalf of his alliance why does he expect Hereno not to do the same?

[Prefonteen]

Had this exact situation happened with Syndicate members being the victims of raids, I would not have accepted the compromise as offered by Mensa either. An attack on a member of an alliance should at all times be considered an attack on the alliance itself, and an infringement upon its sovereignity. Any government that allows it members - after having been attacked without casus bellii of any sort - to be forced to go through any kind of hoops before rightful reparations may be extracted loses any and all legitimacy in my eyes. A government allowing for such a situation being perpetuated is spineless and lacks any legitimacy, as it fails to follow up on the core responsibility it has to the member base it governs.

 

Though I would likely have handled the matter in a different way, using different matters to extract the reps I desire, I can not truly fault SI for its action taken. If anything, their willingness to stand for their sovereignity is something I respect.

[Sephiroth]

So The Syndicate is rolling MENSA HQ confirmed?

 Oh how I would love to see that fight!!!

 

Harms want some of my popcorn? :popcorn: :popcorn:

[dmjohnston]

Pfeiffer already stated that other alliances have accepted the stipulation of a message from the raided nation, so obviously not everyone thinks it's outrageous.

[Oskar]

o/ SI

Mensa has also raided me. 3 different people in the same day. I messaged an Heir in Mensa, never replied, even though he was active and obviously saw my message. About 150 infrastructure destroyed, no reparations. They not only raid, but they raid active nations, in alliances, and they raid with more than one nation.

Again, way to go Socialist International. New Germany praises your actions against Mensa HQ and the tyrant Pfeiffer.

[TellUrGrlThx]

o/ SI

Mensa has also raided me. 3 different people in the same day. I messaged an Heir in Mensa, never replied, even though he was active and obviously saw my message. About 150 infrastructure destroyed, no reparations. They not only raid, but they raid active nations, in alliances, and they raid with more than one nation.

Again, way to go Socialist International. New Germany praises your actions against Mensa HQ and the tyrant Pfeiffer.

 

On behalf of Wayne of Emile.

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Edited April 14, 2015 by TellUrGrlThx

[Prefonteen]

Pfeiffer already stated that other alliances have accepted the stipulation of a message from the raided nation, so obviously not everyone thinks it's outrageous.

 

I do not see the stipulation, or the attempt by Mensa to add in said stipulation to be outrageous. As government of the raider, it makes sense to attempt to mitigate financial damage (as in- minimize the amount of reps to be paid) by adding in such a stipulation. This does not however, mean that the raided party is obligated in any way, shape or form to accept it. It's a matter of the interests of both parties being fundamentally opposed, as one favors the raided and one the raider. 

[Adama]

[Battle Dino]

o/ SI

Mensa has also raided me. 3 different people in the same day. I messaged an Heir in Mensa, never replied, even though he was active and obviously saw my message. About 150 infrastructure destroyed, no reparations. They not only raid, but they raid active nations, in alliances, and they raid with more than one nation.

Again, way to go Socialist International. New Germany praises your actions against Mensa HQ and the tyrant Pfeiffer.

[Oskar]

On behalf of Wayne of Emile.

http://prntscr.com/6tuftr

...uh ok, I guess

Made by Battle Dino

[Avruch]

o/ SI

Mensa has also raided me. 3 different people in the same day. I messaged an Heir in Mensa, never replied, even though he was active and obviously saw my message. About 150 infrastructure destroyed, no reparations. They not only raid, but they raid active nations, in alliances, and they raid with more than one nation.

Again, way to go Socialist International. New Germany praises your actions against Mensa HQ and the tyrant Pfeiffer.

 

You've also been raided by VE, Rose and Arrgh. Maybe you are doing something wrong