Dwemyrn Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Add a black market to the game where players can smuggle tanks, planes, ships, missiles, or nukes to other players for a pretty penny. 1 Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There's something here. Quote ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [10:47] you used to be the voice of irc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nah. Defeats the reason for a blockade in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicboyd25 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nah. Defeats the reason for a blockade in the first place. I think he means like normal trade, just with higher prices and individual deals. So a blockade would block it like normal idk. Not too bad of an idea I would want to hear other's comments first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think he means like normal trade, just with higher prices and individual deals. So a blockade would block it like normal idk. Not too bad of an idea I would want to hear other's comments first. Correct, even thought it's transferring cargo if you have a blockade on you, wouldn't be able to trade cargo like a blockade does on the normal market. This deals would be a player to player transaction and the cost would depend on who is selling what and for how much. I'm not referring to the trade of cargo although if you don't have a blockade on you, you could. I'm referring to an actually blackmarket, that works similar to the market but it's for cargo. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atzuya Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 As long as it costs the sender a huge fortune to send each of those things, this could work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) As long as it costs the sender a huge fortune to send each of those things, this could workYeah and avoid giving multis power, I think the bigger items like nukes and missiles would have a fee tacked onto the delivery because I don't see someone sneaking a black market nuke trade with very much ease. Edited March 26, 2015 by Leonardo Da Vinci Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Maybe put in that if a deal has been started/initiated, but the recipient has not yet taken custody of the items and a blockade is established, I think the nation establishing the blockade would be able to sieze the shipment with the shipment going to them. This would require nations dealing on the blackmarket to have an established navy in order to protect the shipments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Maybe put in that if a deal has been started/initiated, but the recipient has not yet taken custody of the items and a blockade is established, I think the nation establishing the blockade would be able to sieze the shipment with the shipment going to them. This would require nations dealing on the blackmarket to have an established navy in order to protect the shipments. Not a bad idea, if someone catches onto it and declares war on you, if blockaded they should be able to seize the shipment if they win the war. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Armstrong Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If someone cared enough to send you high-priced smuggled goods wouldn't they just break the blockade for you and send you less expensive stuff instead? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If someone cared enough to send you high-priced smuggled goods wouldn't they just break the blockade for you and send you less expensive stuff instead? What if they can't break the blockade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Lune Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Who will initiate the trade? Is it the seller? If so, what if the receiver nation buys a whole bunch of tanks, aircrafts, ships, missiles and nukes, which normally takes days to build and currently the only balance in a sudden war. Then use it to roll an unsuspecting alliance in just a few hours? Right now, it's not a problem, as the game hasn't started for too long and everyone's still strapped for cash. But a year in the future, many small nations today will have big nations. Those already big now will become huge. I'm sure 100 million won't be much money for them by that time as opposed to the ability to roll a strong nation quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Armstrong Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 What if they can't break the blockade? Then they probably don't have the funds necessary to put together the care package. :/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Then they probably don't have the funds necessary to put together the care package. :/ That would be correct. XD Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Bob Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Perhaps we could add a way to do specific trade sanctions that prohibits a nation from buying certain goods. That would add a situation where a black market would make sense, being able to buy and sell goods without showing it on the public record. Spies could be used to show a nation's black market record, what and to whom they've been selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 As well as I think spies would be the ones that would execute to operation as well because it would be something you do in secrecy and that's what spies are actually for is having things done in secrecy. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataraxis Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Wait, can this go over the normal military production cap? Because this could be another advantage to this system even when not blockaded. Quote #6 in P&W Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Wait, can this go over the normal military production cap? Because this could be another advantage to this system even when not blockaded. I suppose that would depend on how it would be implemented in the game. Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Then they probably don't have the funds necessary to put together the care package. :/ Or they could be out of war range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Von Dietrich Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Maybe as a nation perk, but just as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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