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22 minutes ago, The Titan said:

 

Yesterday, Camelot declared war on Rose and launched an unprovoked war against a Mayhem nation.

 

 

oh no, one war  from a rookie makes the entire alliance join in, could've negotiated that, or just not put into the roh because that's a lame excuse

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4 minutes ago, AustinH said:

oh no, one war  from a rookie makes the entire alliance join in, could've negotiated that, or just not put into the roh because that's a lame excuse

Clearly negotiating with Camelot has no good results, it's why we're in this mess in the first place.
And that's more substantial act of aggression than anything Epi has shown so far

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14 minutes ago, The Titan said:

Clearly negotiating with Camelot has no good results, it's why we're in this mess in the first place.
And that's more substantial act of aggression than anything Epi has shown so far

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:sheepy: @The Titan The raid on Mayhem in insufficient proof since we repeatedly offered you peace and you declined it. We are pleasantly surprised that you were willing to defend your ally Rose. However, it is rather unfortunate that you did not defend The Fighting Pacifists. It's not our place to comment on the relationships within Rose Coalition and we wish you farmers the best in this time of turmoil.

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18 minutes ago, EpimetheusTalks said:

However, it is rather unfortunate that you did not defend The Fighting Pacifists.

Mayhem has no treaty with TFP at this time, and thus had no grounds to enter.

Mayhem does have a treaty with Rose, coupled with the war which you did not dispute that it was not a raid, not to mention the out-of-context logs shared in both your DoWs that fail to tell the whole story with the clear intention of trying to get other parties to intervene on your behalf all seem like acts of aggression to me.

You offered to peace the war, sure, you also accepted a NAP which you have now violated. You also agreed to a good faith clause which you also violated. We have to reason to believe any agreement made with Camelot would hold, whether it's as major as a NAP or as minor as peacing a single war.

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1 hour ago, AustinH said:

oh no, one war  from a rookie makes the entire alliance join in, could've negotiated that, or just not put into the roh because that's a lame excuse

Considering the player in question is a personal friend of mine in real life and that he’s in fact not a rookie and likely began playing the game with his old nation before you’d even heard of it, I believe this is no “lame excuse”.  Not to mention that we are allied to Rose who have just been hit by Camelot within the past 48 hours.  

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14 minutes ago, Levi Ford said:

Considering the player in question is a personal friend of mine in real life and that he’s in fact not a rookie and likely began playing the game with his old nation before you’d even heard of it, I believe this is no “lame excuse”.  Not to mention that we are allied to Rose who have just been hit by Camelot within the past 48 hours.  

Absolutely. It's impossible to mistake this player for a 'Noob'. They clearly have years of experience in the game. That's why they know that the ship meta (circa 2014) is the real way to win and that 'aircraft' can't even do real damage. Am I right? @Dr Rush

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6 minutes ago, EpimetheusTalks said:

Absolutely. It's impossible to mistake this player for a 'Noob'. They clearly have years of experience in the game. That's why they know that the ship meta (circa 2014) is the real way to win and that 'aircraft' can't even do real damage. Am I right? @Dr Rush

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No no hear me out

Nukes only

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1 hour ago, Levi Ford said:

Considering the player in question is a personal friend of mine in real life and that he’s in fact not a rookie and likely began playing the game with his old nation before you’d even heard of it, I believe this is no “lame excuse”.  Not to mention that we are allied to Rose who have just been hit by Camelot within the past 48 hours.  

I'm sorry i don't have Clairvoyance and acces to the game's database circa 2014. It is inexcusable for me to not know even all the nations that have happened before my inception into the game.

 

Your Cb of "defending rose" is fine i have no problem with that. Also, i take it if one of your rookies or any member declares a single war on us or any of our O/M treatied alliances then I can pull my alliance to beige your alliance yes?

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3 hours ago, Eleazar said:

nice to meet old friends!

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Man, I thought you'd actually gotten a bank raid in more recently than last year, get new material 😕

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58 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said:

Man, I thought you'd actually gotten a bank raid in more recently than last year, get new material 😕

will do, wish me luck 🥳

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3 hours ago, AustinH said:

Also, i take it if one of your rookies or any member declares a single war on us or any of our O/M treatied alliances then I can pull my alliance to beige your alliance yes?

If we also happen to be parading around on the forums trying to get people to hit you, unilaterally “withdraw” from (aka knowingly violate)  a NAP and blitz your allies, then yes, you may

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16 hours ago, AustinH said:

I'm sorry i don't have Clairvoyance and acces to the game's database circa 2014. It is inexcusable for me to not know even all the nations that have happened before my inception into the game.

 

Your Cb of "defending rose" is fine i have no problem with that. Also, i take it if one of your rookies or any member declares a single war on us or any of our O/M treatied alliances then I can pull my alliance to beige your alliance yes?

If we were to blitz one your allies whilst breaking an NAP I’d say that’s a fair enough reason believe it or not 😁

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17 hours ago, EpimetheusTalks said:

Absolutely. It's impossible to mistake this player for a 'Noob'. They clearly have years of experience in the game. That's why they know that the ship meta (circa 2014) is the real way to win and that 'aircraft' can't even do real damage. Am I right? @Dr Rush

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And you’ve been playing since 2017 right? Yet you seem to think that NAP’s are something that can be broken when you word it as a ‘withdrawal’ not to mention you seem to be the most insufferable person in Orbis so how you ever rose to power in a top 15 alliance is beyond me. 

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12 minutes ago, Stanko1987 said:

It's a war. What is there to brag about besides burning pixels. 

Exactly, so brag about the current war, not last year's raids

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8 hours ago, Levi Ford said:

If we were to blitz one your allies whilst breaking an NAP I’d say that’s a fair enough reason believe it or not 😁

So the main cb is to "Protect" Rose and to punish nap breaking then. Then yeah going back to the original statement that part did not need to be there

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21 hours ago, Levi Ford said:

And you’ve been playing since 2017 right? Yet you seem to think that NAP’s are something that can be broken when you word it as a ‘withdrawal’ not to mention you seem to be the most insufferable person in Orbis so how you ever rose to power in a top 15 alliance is beyond me. 

I believe that NAPs can be broken and Rose broke ours. For example, Myrmidon agreed a NAP with us right before hitting us. It's fair to say they broke a NAP and we don't have to honour its terms anymore. That's precisely the argument Mayhem is using here too, they're saying we broke the NAP and therefore they're not bound by it.

The difference between us and Myrmidon/Mayhem is that we gave the other side warning and conditions on which to rejoin the NAP. Whereas when these alliances said we broke it they committed to immediate war.

We hit TFP over the nuke auction and we hit Rose because it was trying to build a global military coalition against us. Some people disagree with the former but I've not heard anyone disagree with the latter including Rose members.

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