Buck Turgidson Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) tl:dr - I am making an early announcement on the dissolution of Oblivion. They may not know it yet themselves. - I am dissolving them over their daily spy harassment for over 2 years. Until then, I will keep up a cycle of wars to punish them and wear them down even further. - I would like to invite anyone to send me an emissary in the form of a spy to collect information about my nation. If you do so, I will not retaliate, and welcome the opportunity to show you what I am up to. Transparency is so important for world peace. This is a way for you to show support for my situation without exposing yourself, and give you the peace of mind to know what I am open and peaceful toward you. - I will hold Oblivion responsible for any and all spy attacks on my nation until Oblivion is dissolved or for the next 2 years following the most recent spy attack (as of today, that means 2 years to go since I was spied today by them). If you get caught killing just one of my soldiers, I will counterattack Oblivion x 6 wars. So, if you want to protect Oblivion, do not kill any of my soldiers with spy attacks, or even attempting it with a single spy on quick-and-dirty. - Anyone interested in joining in the work to obliviate them is welcome to watch my beige counter. I will hit them when the timer is up, without fail. PM me if you want to coordinate for maximum effects-based campaigning. - If you have been similarly harassed by these guys who need a girl in their life if there were even on on Earth who would have them, then let's hunt these cowards down together. If you want to talk, know that I will keep your confidence always. - The comments that will follow this outstanding (some might say fabulous) wall of text will likely be from the same segment of toxic stay-at-home-on-a-Friday-night type - you know, the deeply unhappy sort who attacks the victim at ever turn because it is the only emotional connection they can make from their basement. If you have something constructive to add, I am all ears. - As a last note before making this tl:dr longer than the wall it it meant to summarize, this has been an interesting problem to try to solve, and very much what I find engaging in this game, so no matter Oblivion's hurt feelings that apparently spurred this response, I live for solving elusive problems. And the solution here is to dissolve Oblivion, unless I can come up with a better response. Preamble: Unbeknownst to most people, the term '!@#$', in the context of fighting spirit is not sexist and does not refer to a woman's genitalia, or females at all. It is rooted in the Latin compound word 'pusilanimus'. Meet my wife and you will know just how unrelated to sex or gender fighting spirit is. 'Pusil' means weak, and 'animus' means 'spirit', so when you compound them, you wind up with weak-spirited, and that word became the modern English 'pusillanimous'. So, a man, woman, or non-binary person, and everyone in between has the potential to be a modern day !@#$. Roman soldiers used the term, with a silent 'l'. When I consider someone, or a group, who is genuinely weak-spirited, or pusillanimous, the things that stand out tend to be behaviour like the following: - cowardice - taking pot shots from behind cover - needing an entire coalition of a dozen or more players to defend themselves against a single player - and so on... Indeed, well before the Romans, the Greeks made similar comparisons between their honourable way of fighting, now known as the 'Western Way of War', and the tactics of the Persians: The Greek tradition was to meet their enemy on a field of battle, and fight with spears and swords, whereas the Persians relied on light infantry skirmishers and numbers above all else. So, when the Greeks first met the Persians in serious numbers, at the Battle of Marathon in 490 BCE, they happened to catch them in a place where the Persians' numbers could not be used to their advantage and basically wiped them out (I think it was something like 192 dead vs 6,400). Again, at Thermopylae and Salamis, Leonidas and Themistocles chose their battlefields carefully to ensure that their qualitative superiority could not be nerfed by the Persian numbers. Later, on less favourable ground, Xenophon described the March of the 10,000 as one of frustration, as the Greeks were out in the open and surrounded, harassed and pummelled all the way back home, showing clearly the wisdom of the Spartan general and Athenian admiral in their respective battles. It was during the Persian Wars that the Greeks affirmed the value of the spear over the bow, for the former required courage to use it, and the latter could only have value if it could pick the bad from the good. They considered Persian tactics to be cowardly, uncommitted, and indiscriminate. (This is not entirely fair to the Persians style of fighting at the time as it is based exclusively on the Greek accounts - Herodotus and Thucydides - and perspective, so if you want to have a deep dive on that topic, we can create a new thread.) Getting to it: More than 2 years ago, Oblivion started suddenly to spy me every day, and they have kept that up, every single day since they started aside from a very brief interlude. When I caught them, they declined to explain why, and resorted to trolling me, pretending none of them knew what was going on. You know, just like cowards would do. I took a long time to deal with it as I was basically retired in-game and really did not care. A long time. Because I was happy to just farm and fight occasionally. Consequences: Well, finally, after politely asking them to stop for more than a year, I decided to just destroy their alliance if they did not. So, I began a series of retaliatory wars, for which I do not care about any statistic except the value of the damage I inflict, and began the binary beige/war-on-Oblivion for 4-5 months I think. Eventually the cowards seemed to capitulate, begging me to stop, and for which they offered to stop the spy attacks. No offer of reparations or anything, so I knew this was not sincere, so I specified the following terms: 1) If I were attacked, they needed to hit my attacker immediately 2) If I were spied, and caught the spy, they needed to roll that nation These terms were necessary because Oblivion are well known to be behind many constant spy harassment 'events' on Orbis, and because they already proved themselves to be liars and cowards, so without such terms, there was no way to trust them. The consequence of not honouring these terms was that I would pound them mercilessly for 2 years after the date of the most recent attack. Of course they did not keep their word, and thought they were super edgy and clever by contracting out other players to harass me. Then they declined that I had given them these terms, perhaps thinking that they had to accept them, but that was false - they have no say in the terms above. Anyhow, here is the most recent daily attack: 05/14 08:49 am An unknown nation has executed an espionage operation against your country. They successfully detonated an explosive on the missile launch pad in your nation. 2 of your missiles were killed. 05/14 02:39 am An unknown nation has executed an espionage operation against your country. They successfully detonated an explosive on the missile launch pad in your nation. 1 of your missiles were killed. 05/14 02:38 am Helium Raven of Birdland has executed an espionage operation to sabotage nuclear weapons in your country. They successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in your nation. 1 of your nuclear weapons were killed. Reflections: I have been polite, open, and clear in my communications with them from the start, and the best explanation I have gotten for this exceptional harassment is that I seem to have hurt the feelings of one of their members over a decade ago (Mayor), and he holds a grudge. I honestly cannot recall who he is other than remembering that the player behind that name was a weeboo. He is not exactly a memorable person. This among other reasons may explain why so many people are laughing at him right now. I find this sad, because it is very clear that someone who holds onto a 10 year grudge over a browser game has some sort of mental health issues. At first, I strongly suspected that he was on the autism spectrum as he displays many of the behaviours associated with it, and which I often see in the student populations I have served over the years, but there is a reason that the very word to describe the spectrum in question is hashed - toxic people have turned this into a swear word. I have given up on this explanation mostly because he is not receptive to it (even though 2 of his alliance mates have told me that they are indeed on that same spectrum), but also because, well, you can't ascribe a condition like that to a person who cannot admit it to themselves. Ever tried calling an alcoholic an alcoholic? So now my explanation, which extends to all but 2 of the Oblivion folks who I have communicated to is that he seems like the sort of guy who could really use a girl in his life, but none will have him. He and Oblivion may simply be stupid - there's always room for Occam. I also considered that they might be Russian/MAGA because of the pattern and method of their lies, but I now have enough evidence that they are not - and if they were, they might actually be winning something today. I have raised for some time the toxic nature of this game's culture, and it seems that it is a forlorn hope to try to solve that toxicity. Indeed, the game is fueled by it - even Alex debated me for months over obviously racist content in the Color Trading Block names. I get where he is coming from - a game like this probably gets 99% of its revenues from 1% of the players, and those players want to put forward super-edgy racist names that aren't racist so they can deny it and say that their ethnic friends don't see what I am complaining about, so he resists precluding that by changing the rules. Make money get switches right? Anyhow, anyone who has read this far deserves to see Mayor's toxic messages to me, and I would appreciate any thoughts on your diagnosis for him. I am open to criticism as well, as I clearly got frustrated with him a few times - sometimes it is hard to tell if the person is genuinely suffering from mental illness or is just a package wrapped up in himself (and in Mayor's case, that makes a very small package indeed). Other Oblivion members write almost the same stuff, hence the suggestion that they are guys who need a girl in their life, but none will have them: Subject: Sucking From: Mayor Date: 05/06/2025 Tuesday 5:59 pm Block Communications Hahaha, good one. Anyways, pass on my thanks to your buddies in Arrgh for the 360m reparations payment on your behalf. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 05/03/2025 Saturday 2:28 pm Seen No, I have never even visited your asylum. From: Mayor Date: 05/02/2025 Friday 9:42 pm Block Communications Do you live in the asylum only part-time? I am surprised they allow you to use and operate a computer. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 04/24/2025 Thursday 10:53 pm Seen I am not neurodivergent. I was suggesting that you are. I run into it a lot at the school (not for much longer as I am returning to the private sector full time soon). I got bullied because I am half European and half Semitic, half English speaking, motié-Francophone. You guys are the first bullies I ran into who did not make your reasons clear from the start. I was right to suggest you are a fascist. The argumentation style you just used is called the Russian Reversal, and happens to be the favourite of both Putin and Trump. How interesting. Don’t make light of this. I have had autistic interns before, and they hang on to grudges over the slightest perceived slight for just as long as you have demonstrated. I don’t think you are a low functioning autistic, so don’t take offence. Every one of them who were open about it said the hardest thing was accepting that about themselves, for fear of a label. I have not shared any of this with anyone else, though I did express concern over your mental health to Helium, and will not block communications with you due to this assessment, I have indeed blocked him and Hidude, because, frankly, they are !@#$. Anyhow, you guys broke your word, and Hidude admitted it, so consider this round only delayed by a few weeks. From: Mayor Date: 04/24/2025 Thursday 7:02 pm Block Communications I like these messages because they explain so much to me about you. Such as before you mentioned you were bullied in school for being different, now you tell me you are neurodivergent. Thanks for being so open to me about this. I appreciate your trust in me. Don't worry about being different Buck; everyone is special in their own way. Have you ever considered going to seek professional help through speaking with a psychologist about your issues? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/26/2025 Wednesday 10:03 am Seen Lmao. I barely remember you, but you bring up people I have not thought about in a decade, and I have a grudge? Seriously, get some help, and I don't mean that in the way that you might if you said the same words. I genuinely find your obsession to be an outlier. Don't you? Or do you think it is normal to hold onto a perceived slight over a browser game for 10 years until you cann finally get your payback by harassing them from the shadows for 2 years? Someone who only remembers your name and your obsession with the Japanese? Incidentally, I only remembered that because you were odd about it at the time. It is ok to be neurodivergent, and I suspect that even I would be more accepting if it than the current company you keep. Anyhow, good luck and stop writing me. This is not the first time I have asked, please take note. From: Mayor Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 5:48 pm Block Communications The only person holding a grudge for a decade is you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 1:07 am Seen The platform does not keep messages, moron. Seriously, get some help. I cannot imagine holding onto a grudge for a decade over a browser game. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 1:07 am Seen The platform does not keep messages, moron. Seriously, get some help. I cannot imagine holding onto a grudge for a decade over a browser game. From: Mayor Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 8:23 pm Block Communications Scroll down genius, you started this conversation. Literally all your claims are disproven by scrolling down this very DM you initiated yourself and actually reading what I say. I have never seen someone as triggered and delusional as you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:45 am Seen If you choose to explain to yourself that you are not suffering from mental illness and are just a a-hole, then please, as I asked before, stop writing me. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:44 am Seen And even more seriously, I do some work in public education these days, and we know that mental health is very much an issue for your generation. Your comments show signs that I think would concern any professional. I am done trolling here - I mean it. You should take a step back and ask yourself if your obsession over me is warranted - this is a web based game, and we had not spoken is what must be about a decade, yet here you are spitting venom for 2 years at me. My first guess is that you are on the !@#$ spectrum, but I am not a psychologist, and I know that OCD, ADHD and some kinds of trauma can explain similar behaviours. If I may suggest, do an online test for !@#$ to either rule that in or out - you can do so from the privacy of your own home and no one needs to know but you. Even if you do not get professional help, it might be a first step to helping you understand your own actions. It is obvious to me that you were bullied in school, as was I. The difference is how we each responded to that. When you become the bully, you are effectively submitting the the bullies who hurt you - something to think about. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:32 am Seen From what I can tell, you fit the profile of an incel. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:31 am Seen Also, I would LOVE it if you would stop writing me - you started this conversation and have so far really only harassed me over your mental issues. So let's try it like this: Will you kindly stop harassing me? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:21 am Seen I would ask you the same. You are harbouring a grudge against me that dates to a decade ago. You and your alliance have been hounding me every single day for 2 years. And then you guys attacked again while talking peace. Seriously, what is the matter with you? At least I am making the commitment to communicate to you in the only language you bullies understand. From: Mayor Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 12:56 am Block Communications Have you ever sat down and thought to yourself about how unhinged and deranged you sound? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 8:17 am Seen Anyhow we are on for more of this until 2027. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 8:17 am Seen No, I wrote to him every time he did it until I realized you guys were just small bullies who spend every Friday and Saturday night playing a browser game and holding onto grudges lol From: Mayor Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 1:18 am Block Communications Won what? I still don't see any proof. All you have are claims and lies. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/21/2025 Friday 12:47 pm Seen Actually I caught you twice, HV 4-5 times, HiDude 4-5 times, and others here and there. You are trying the "Who me?" defense and attempting to weasel out of what you and your alliance did. You are a pathetic coward who cannot even step up and admit his part. Looks to me like I won this, because I still have my integrity. I wonder if you know how much people are laughing at you right now. From: Mayor Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 9:52 pm Block Communications I spied you one time only. Provide proof otherwise it is all lies from you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 7:55 pm Seen Dude, I am going to reply to ever message and every aggression, always. If you would like this conversation to end, just stop replying. HiDude tells me that you and Birdland were behind this. Spying me for 2 years, every single day. Seriously, kid, what is wrong with you? From: Mayor Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 4:15 pm Block Communications Blah blah blah. No more essay finally, have you given up trying to convince others that you don't take this game seriously? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 10:57 am Seen I note that you did not understand that last crack. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 10:47 am Seen Whine whine whine From: Mayor Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:58 pm Block Communications My "Wall of Text" was 50% your previous reply. And yet here is another essay. The projection from you is out of this world. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:35 pm Seen lol I am literally talking to 4 of you now…but to reply to your latest wall of text: 1) please see your own essay that I am replying to. I am replying to your spy attacks, and to your PMs. Not once have I reached out to you first. 2) I have no idea about that war, but either way, your alliance’s attacks against me predated it by 1 2/3 years, and were every single day. Also, I caught you twice. 3) My IQ is 174, and I hold 2 degrees. I operate a successful business than employs more than a dozen professionals in VR development for the bio manufacturing sector, and made my first million at 32, from a starting point of working full time since I was 16. I have lived on 3 continents, done business on the ground in 45 countries so far, and speak 5 languages as well as sign language. I am starting my PhD in a few months, and will create a hyper complex interactive business simulation of the bio manufacturing sector in Canada. You vote NDP, and I am the stupid one? Lmao 4) My wife and I just celebrated our 26th anniversary, and both of my sons are happy, and at he top of their class academically and in sports. I literally could not be happier. You just might be the worst judge of character I have ever come across online. It was not a stretch to ask if you are fascists, given that you have behaved exactly as one. Let’s see if your brilliance can understand that last crack. From: Mayor Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:02 pm Block Communications "I now have 3 of you constantly whining" You are the only one whining buddy, as we can both clearly see from these messages. "I promise you that I do not think about you at all" You keep messaging me with these essays. Give it a rest already. "and am mostly just curious to understand why you would hit a peaceful minds-his-own nation like mine" I only spied you once (and everyone in Arrgh) after Arrgh attacked me months ago, which was because Hatebi nuked me and then you guys raided me afterwards. So cry me a river. What goes around comes around. I never spied you again and only attacked because you attacked us first. "So I ask again, are you Russian? Because what you are doing is exactly the way that Russians and MAGA people argue. Blaming me for starting this is just the sort of thing Putin is doing to Ukraine and Trump is doing to Canada. That is not an attempt to bring up meaningless politics, but actually to see if you are fascist wannabes, which is what I suspect you are. Why else would you mimic your masters?" You are actually really, really stupid. I will respond to this nonsense one time and that is it. I am a Canadian just as you are and vote New Democrat. Not everything in this world is related to Ukraine, Trump or Putin and you are not the center of the universe. People who you have disagreements with on internet games are not fascists in real life. You sound truly miserable. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/17/2025 Monday 1:05 pm Seen If you recall even the slightest thing about me as you claim you do, you know that the only thing I do care about is pushing back on bullies like you guys. I have not touched Oblivion until about 6 months ago, when, after several requests for the SIMPLEST explanation of why you guys were spying me every single day for over a year, none was given. You guys started this 100%, and I let it slide for over a year before finally responding to it. Want it to stop? Stop the spy attacks. In 2 years, I have only ever caught Oblivion spies. I think you misinderstood my comment when I said I was going to quit the game out of boredom. You guys literally gave me a reason to play again when I introduced this winning cycle. I now have 3 of you constantly whining about the damage I am doing, and we are all laughing at you over it. Gotta say, you look weaker ever time I hit you guys. I promise you that I do not think about you at all, and am mostly just curious to understand why you would hit a peaceful minds-his-own nation like mine, and in so doing inflict damage on yourselves. You guys are like watching a cartoon character stepping on a rake, and it is funny as hell. So I ask again, are you Russian? Because what you are doing is exactly the way that Russians and MAGA people argue. Blaming me for starting this is just the sort of thing Putin is doing to Ukraine and Trump is doing to Canada. That is not an attempt to bring up meaningless politics, but actually to see if you are fascist wannabes, which is what I suspect you are. Why else would you mimic your masters? From: Mayor Date: 03/16/2025 Sunday 11:50 pm Block Communications You take every opportunity to claim you are not serious when I literally do not care, you messaged me, and I would be perfectly fine if you just stop responding. Seeing you seethe and cope about losing some online game war tho is quite amusing. Please continue to respond and tell me how little you pay attention to this game and how little you care. "I am not the one who is systematically hitting someone every day for 2 years. That kind of thing is the follow through of people who take this sort of thing seriously." You literally do exactly this... You have been hitting Oblivion for over 2 years and I don't even look at your nation except when you attack us. You seemingly think about us 24/7 and that is not healthy. Imagine being so tilted that you dedicate 2 years (and counting) to a feud in a browser game. Also a tell tale sign of someone projecting is once they start bringing up meaningless politics. Step away from the internet for a few minutes and your life will improve quite a bit. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/16/2025 Sunday 8:23 pm Seen Lmao do you think I take this game seriously? I am not the one who is systematically hitting someone every day for 2 years. That kind of thing is the follow through of people who take this sort of thing seriously. Are you Russian? Because you argue like a MAGA From: Mayor Date: 03/15/2025 Saturday 11:32 pm Block Communications My nightly partying days are behind me, not everyone is in their late 30's constantly doped out on drugs like you are. At some point you have to grow up Buck and realize this is just a silly little browser game that not everyone takes as seriously as you do. Takes a few minutes each day sure but I am not emotionally invested. Take a break sometime, looks like you need one. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/15/2025 Saturday 12:35 pm Seen LOL you were all active on a Friday night. 'nuff said From: Mayor Date: 03/14/2025 Friday 1:19 am Block Communications Buck, you cope so hard, I barely think of you other than for free stats. I only remember you in the early days since you have done literally nothing since other than a few (funny) game reports. You are the one who attacks Oblivion religiously and devotes their time to a useless feud that only exists in your head. "Sticking it to bullies" buddy this is a pixel war game, get a life. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:54 pm Seen Well, I guess you are better at pixels than I am - well done. I do not understand how statpadding motivates you kids. And I have gotten my revenge, and will keep getting it. You go on and keep measuring your worth in this game, and I will continue to do so outside of it. I am super satisfied with this arrangement - there is nothing I have ever loved as much as sticking it to bullies. Whoa do you go back to the Warps days? I really don't remember you other than the name and you being a stick in the mud weeboo. Maybe I am thinking of someone else, but I am glad that I made an impression on you. From: Mayor Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:17 pm Block Communications Buddy, you got demoted like 100 times due to how much you suck in government. Your war stats suck, you never won a real war anyways though, you always bailed on Arrgh hard when the going got tough. No one in Arrgh has sucked as hard as you have. You the epitome of an Arrgh loser. I feel bad for letting Warpool, Jacob and others promote you to admiral out of pity because we all felt so bad for you and your pathetic record. You even said yourself that you would leave if it wasn't for Oblivion, thats how much you suck, you have been unable to get any sort of revenge for 2 years. No offense I hardly pay attention other than to laugh at you from time to time and remember there is always someone worse off. Best of luck to you anyways bud. Find some success in life for once. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:10 pm Seen You know that you guys started this. You have been spying me every day for 2 years. You sucked back in the day, and boy do you ever suck now. Edited May 14 by Buck Turgidson 1 3 1 2 Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Benfro Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: I would like to invite anyone to send me an emissary in the form of a spy to collect information about my nation. If you do so, I will not retaliate, and welcome the opportunity to show you what I am up to. Transparency is so important for world peace. This is a way for you to show support for my situation without exposing yourself, and give you the peace of mind to know what I am open and peaceful toward you. From an in-game rules standpoint, you are actively soliciting spy slot filling. It’s hard to prove but still against the rules. So would encourage you to tread carefully. but alas. The crux of the issue here is you spent half your post accusing people of having no dating life (and assuming Friday night and Saturday nights are the only time for romance for some reason?) and outright talking about @Mayor having ASD despite not having any actual reason to do so. Logs or not, this is not relevant to some in-game, in-character actions. Neither of these things is relevant. But it does create a hostile game community for people who are different. so let me be the first to speak up and say behavior like THAT is not welcome in this community. If you want to deal with in-game actions, then negotiate. Join an alliance that will support or defend you. Play the politics that this nationsim requires. Or accept the consequences of inaction. 3 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: tl:dr - I am making an early announcement on the dissolution of Oblivion. They may not know it yet themselves. - I am dissolving them over their daily spy harassment for over 2 years. Until then, I will keep up a cycle of wars to punish them and wear them down even further. - I would like to invite anyone to send me an emissary in the form of a spy to collect information about my nation. If you do so, I will not retaliate, and welcome the opportunity to show you what I am up to. Transparency is so important for world peace. This is a way for you to show support for my situation without exposing yourself, and give you the peace of mind to know what I am open and peaceful toward you. - I will hold Oblivion responsible for any and all spy attacks on my nation until Oblivion is dissolved or for the next 2 years following the most recent spy attack (as of today, that means 2 years to go since I was spied today by them). If you get caught killing just one of my soldiers, I will counterattack Oblivion x 6 wars. So, if you want to protect Oblivion, do not kill any of my soldiers with spy attacks, or even attempting it with a single spy on quick-and-dirty. - Anyone interested in joining in the work to obliviate them is welcome to watch my beige counter. I will hit them when the timer is up, without fail. PM me if you want to coordinate for maximum effects-based campaigning. - If you have been similarly harassed by these guys who need a girl in their life if there were even on on Earth who would have them, then let's hunt these cowards down together. If you want to talk, know that I will keep your confidence always. - The comments that will follow this outstanding (some might say fabulous) wall of text will likely be from the same segment of toxic stay-at-home-on-a-Friday-night type - you know, the deeply unhappy sort who attacks the victim at ever turn because it is the only emotional connection they can make from their basement. If you have something constructive to add, I am all ears. - As a last note before making this tl:dr longer than the wall it it meant to summarize, this has been an interesting problem to try to solve, and very much what I find engaging in this game, so no matter Oblivion's hurt feelings that apparently spurred this response, I live for solving elusive problems. And the solution here is to dissolve Oblivion, unless I can come up with a better response. Preamble: Unbeknownst to most people, the term '!@#$', in the context of fighting spirit is not sexist and does not refer to a woman's genitalia, or females at all. It is rooted in the Latin compound word 'pusilanimus'. Meet my wife and you will know just how unrelated to sex or gender fighting spirit is. 'Pusil' means weak, and 'animus' means 'spirit', so when you compound them, you wind up with weak-spirited, and that word became the modern English 'pusillanimous'. So, a man, woman, or non-binary person, and everyone in between has the potential to be a modern day !@#$. Roman soldiers used the term, with a silent 'l'. When I consider someone, or a group, who is genuinely weak-spirited, or pusillanimous, the things that stand out tend to be behaviour like the following: - cowardice - taking pot shots from behind cover - needing an entire coalition of a dozen or more players to defend themselves against a single player - and so on... Indeed, well before the Romans, the Greeks made similar comparisons between their honourable way of fighting, now known as the 'Western Way of War', and the tactics of the Persians: The Greek tradition was to meet their enemy on a field of battle, and fight with spears and swords, whereas the Persians relied on light infantry skirmishers and numbers above all else. So, when the Greeks first met the Persians in serious numbers, at the Battle of Marathon in 490 BCE, they happened to catch them in a place where the Persians' numbers could not be used to their advantage and basically wiped them out (I think it was something like 192 dead vs 6,400). Again, at Thermopylae and Salamis, Leonidas and Themistocles chose their battlefields carefully to ensure that their qualitative superiority could not be nerfed by the Persian numbers. Later, on less favourable ground, Xenophon described the March of the 10,000 as one of frustration, as the Greeks were out in the open and surrounded, harassed and pummelled all the way back home, showing clearly the wisdom of the Spartan general and Athenian admiral in their respective battles. It was during the Persian Wars that the Greeks affirmed the value of the spear over the bow, for the former required courage to use it, and the latter could only have value if it could pick the bad from the good. They considered Persian tactics to be cowardly, uncommitted, and indiscriminate. (This is not entirely fair to the Persians style of fighting at the time as it is based exclusively on the Greek accounts - Herodotus and Thucydides - and perspective, so if you want to have a deep dive on that topic, we can create a new thread.) Getting to it: More than 2 years ago, Oblivion started suddenly to spy me every day, and they have kept that up, every single day since they started aside from a very brief interlude. When I caught them, they declined to explain why, and resorted to trolling me, pretending none of them knew what was going on. You know, just like cowards would do. I took a long time to deal with it as I was basically retired in-game and really did not care. A long time. Because I was happy to just farm and fight occasionally. Consequences: Well, finally, after politely asking them to stop for more than a year, I decided to just destroy their alliance if they did not. So, I began a series of retaliatory wars, for which I do not care about any statistic except the value of the damage I inflict, and began the binary beige/war-on-Oblivion for 4-5 months I think. Eventually the cowards seemed to capitulate, begging me to stop, and for which they offered to stop the spy attacks. No offer of reparations or anything, so I knew this was not sincere, so I specified the following terms: 1) If I were attacked, they needed to hit my attacker immediately 2) If I were spied, and caught the spy, they needed to roll that nation These terms were necessary because Oblivion are well known to be behind many constant spy harassment 'events' on Orbis, and because they already proved themselves to be liars and cowards, so without such terms, there was no way to trust them. The consequence of not honouring these terms was that I would pound them mercilessly for 2 years after the date of the most recent attack. Of course they did not keep their word, and thought they were super edgy and clever by contracting out other players to harass me. Then they declined that I had given them these terms, perhaps thinking that they had to accept them, but that was false - they have no say in the terms above. Anyhow, here is the most recent daily attack: 05/14 08:49 am An unknown nation has executed an espionage operation against your country. They successfully detonated an explosive on the missile launch pad in your nation. 2 of your missiles were killed. 05/14 02:39 am An unknown nation has executed an espionage operation against your country. They successfully detonated an explosive on the missile launch pad in your nation. 1 of your missiles were killed. 05/14 02:38 am Helium Raven of Birdland has executed an espionage operation to sabotage nuclear weapons in your country. They successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in your nation. 1 of your nuclear weapons were killed. Reflections: I have been polite, open, and clear in my communications with them from the start, and the best explanation I have gotten for this exceptional harassment is that I seem to have hurt the feelings of one of their members over a decade ago (Mayor), and he holds a grudge. I honestly cannot recall who he is other than remembering that the player behind that name was a weeboo. He is not exactly a memorable person. This among other reasons may explain why so many people are laughing at him right now. I find this sad, because it is very clear that someone who holds onto a 10 year grudge over a browser game has some sort of mental health issues. At first, I strongly suspected that he was on the autism spectrum as he displays many of the behaviours associated with it, and which I often see in the student populations I have served over the years, but there is a reason that the very word to describe the spectrum in question is hashed - toxic people have turned this into a swear word. I have given up on this explanation mostly because he is not receptive to it (even though 2 of his alliance mates have told me that they are indeed on that same spectrum), but also because, well, you can't ascribe a condition like that to a person who cannot admit it to themselves. Ever tried calling an alcoholic an alcoholic? So now my explanation, which extends to all but 2 of the Oblivion folks who I have communicated to is that he seems like the sort of guy who could really use a girl in his life, but none will have him. He and Oblivion may simply be stupid - there's always room for Occam. I also considered that they might be Russian/MAGA because of the pattern and method of their lies, but I now have enough evidence that they are not - and if they were, they might actually be winning something today. I have raised for some time the toxic nature of this game's culture, and it seems that it is a forlorn hope to try to solve that toxicity. Indeed, the game is fueled by it - even Alex debated me for months over obviously racist content in the Color Trading Block names. I get where he is coming from - a game like this probably gets 99% of its revenues from 1% of the players, and those players want to put forward super-edgy racist names that aren't racist so they can deny it and say that their ethnic friends don't see what I am complaining about, so he resists precluding that by changing the rules. Make money get switches right? Anyhow, anyone who has read this far deserves to see Mayor's toxic messages to me, and I would appreciate any thoughts on your diagnosis for him. I am open to criticism as well, as I clearly got frustrated with him a few times - sometimes it is hard to tell if the person is genuinely suffering from mental illness or is just a package wrapped up in himself (and in Mayor's case, that makes a very small package indeed). Other Oblivion members write almost the same stuff, hence the suggestion that they are guys who need a girl in their life, but none will have them: Subject: Sucking From: Mayor Date: 05/06/2025 Tuesday 5:59 pm Block Communications Hahaha, good one. Anyways, pass on my thanks to your buddies in Arrgh for the 360m reparations payment on your behalf. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 05/03/2025 Saturday 2:28 pm Seen No, I have never even visited your asylum. From: Mayor Date: 05/02/2025 Friday 9:42 pm Block Communications Do you live in the asylum only part-time? I am surprised they allow you to use and operate a computer. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 04/24/2025 Thursday 10:53 pm Seen I am not neurodivergent. I was suggesting that you are. I run into it a lot at the school (not for much longer as I am returning to the private sector full time soon). I got bullied because I am half European and half Semitic, half English speaking, motié-Francophone. You guys are the first bullies I ran into who did not make your reasons clear from the start. I was right to suggest you are a fascist. The argumentation style you just used is called the Russian Reversal, and happens to be the favourite of both Putin and Trump. How interesting. Don’t make light of this. I have had autistic interns before, and they hang on to grudges over the slightest perceived slight for just as long as you have demonstrated. I don’t think you are a low functioning autistic, so don’t take offence. Every one of them who were open about it said the hardest thing was accepting that about themselves, for fear of a label. I have not shared any of this with anyone else, though I did express concern over your mental health to Helium, and will not block communications with you due to this assessment, I have indeed blocked him and Hidude, because, frankly, they are !@#$. Anyhow, you guys broke your word, and Hidude admitted it, so consider this round only delayed by a few weeks. From: Mayor Date: 04/24/2025 Thursday 7:02 pm Block Communications I like these messages because they explain so much to me about you. Such as before you mentioned you were bullied in school for being different, now you tell me you are neurodivergent. Thanks for being so open to me about this. I appreciate your trust in me. Don't worry about being different Buck; everyone is special in their own way. Have you ever considered going to seek professional help through speaking with a psychologist about your issues? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/26/2025 Wednesday 10:03 am Seen Lmao. I barely remember you, but you bring up people I have not thought about in a decade, and I have a grudge? Seriously, get some help, and I don't mean that in the way that you might if you said the same words. I genuinely find your obsession to be an outlier. Don't you? Or do you think it is normal to hold onto a perceived slight over a browser game for 10 years until you cann finally get your payback by harassing them from the shadows for 2 years? Someone who only remembers your name and your obsession with the Japanese? Incidentally, I only remembered that because you were odd about it at the time. It is ok to be neurodivergent, and I suspect that even I would be more accepting if it than the current company you keep. Anyhow, good luck and stop writing me. This is not the first time I have asked, please take note. From: Mayor Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 5:48 pm Block Communications The only person holding a grudge for a decade is you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 1:07 am Seen The platform does not keep messages, moron. Seriously, get some help. I cannot imagine holding onto a grudge for a decade over a browser game. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/24/2025 Monday 1:07 am Seen The platform does not keep messages, moron. Seriously, get some help. I cannot imagine holding onto a grudge for a decade over a browser game. From: Mayor Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 8:23 pm Block Communications Scroll down genius, you started this conversation. Literally all your claims are disproven by scrolling down this very DM you initiated yourself and actually reading what I say. I have never seen someone as triggered and delusional as you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:45 am Seen If you choose to explain to yourself that you are not suffering from mental illness and are just a a-hole, then please, as I asked before, stop writing me. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:44 am Seen And even more seriously, I do some work in public education these days, and we know that mental health is very much an issue for your generation. Your comments show signs that I think would concern any professional. I am done trolling here - I mean it. You should take a step back and ask yourself if your obsession over me is warranted - this is a web based game, and we had not spoken is what must be about a decade, yet here you are spitting venom for 2 years at me. My first guess is that you are on the !@#$ spectrum, but I am not a psychologist, and I know that OCD, ADHD and some kinds of trauma can explain similar behaviours. If I may suggest, do an online test for !@#$ to either rule that in or out - you can do so from the privacy of your own home and no one needs to know but you. Even if you do not get professional help, it might be a first step to helping you understand your own actions. It is obvious to me that you were bullied in school, as was I. The difference is how we each responded to that. When you become the bully, you are effectively submitting the the bullies who hurt you - something to think about. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:32 am Seen From what I can tell, you fit the profile of an incel. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:31 am Seen Also, I would LOVE it if you would stop writing me - you started this conversation and have so far really only harassed me over your mental issues. So let's try it like this: Will you kindly stop harassing me? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 11:21 am Seen I would ask you the same. You are harbouring a grudge against me that dates to a decade ago. You and your alliance have been hounding me every single day for 2 years. And then you guys attacked again while talking peace. Seriously, what is the matter with you? At least I am making the commitment to communicate to you in the only language you bullies understand. From: Mayor Date: 03/23/2025 Sunday 12:56 am Block Communications Have you ever sat down and thought to yourself about how unhinged and deranged you sound? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 8:17 am Seen Anyhow we are on for more of this until 2027. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 8:17 am Seen No, I wrote to him every time he did it until I realized you guys were just small bullies who spend every Friday and Saturday night playing a browser game and holding onto grudges lol From: Mayor Date: 03/22/2025 Saturday 1:18 am Block Communications Won what? I still don't see any proof. All you have are claims and lies. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/21/2025 Friday 12:47 pm Seen Actually I caught you twice, HV 4-5 times, HiDude 4-5 times, and others here and there. You are trying the "Who me?" defense and attempting to weasel out of what you and your alliance did. You are a pathetic coward who cannot even step up and admit his part. Looks to me like I won this, because I still have my integrity. I wonder if you know how much people are laughing at you right now. From: Mayor Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 9:52 pm Block Communications I spied you one time only. Provide proof otherwise it is all lies from you. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 7:55 pm Seen Dude, I am going to reply to ever message and every aggression, always. If you would like this conversation to end, just stop replying. HiDude tells me that you and Birdland were behind this. Spying me for 2 years, every single day. Seriously, kid, what is wrong with you? From: Mayor Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 4:15 pm Block Communications Blah blah blah. No more essay finally, have you given up trying to convince others that you don't take this game seriously? From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 10:57 am Seen I note that you did not understand that last crack. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/20/2025 Thursday 10:47 am Seen Whine whine whine From: Mayor Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:58 pm Block Communications My "Wall of Text" was 50% your previous reply. And yet here is another essay. The projection from you is out of this world. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:35 pm Seen lol I am literally talking to 4 of you now…but to reply to your latest wall of text: 1) please see your own essay that I am replying to. I am replying to your spy attacks, and to your PMs. Not once have I reached out to you first. 2) I have no idea about that war, but either way, your alliance’s attacks against me predated it by 1 2/3 years, and were every single day. Also, I caught you twice. 3) My IQ is 174, and I hold 2 degrees. I operate a successful business than employs more than a dozen professionals in VR development for the bio manufacturing sector, and made my first million at 32, from a starting point of working full time since I was 16. I have lived on 3 continents, done business on the ground in 45 countries so far, and speak 5 languages as well as sign language. I am starting my PhD in a few months, and will create a hyper complex interactive business simulation of the bio manufacturing sector in Canada. You vote NDP, and I am the stupid one? Lmao 4) My wife and I just celebrated our 26th anniversary, and both of my sons are happy, and at he top of their class academically and in sports. I literally could not be happier. You just might be the worst judge of character I have ever come across online. It was not a stretch to ask if you are fascists, given that you have behaved exactly as one. Let’s see if your brilliance can understand that last crack. From: Mayor Date: 03/19/2025 Wednesday 10:02 pm Block Communications "I now have 3 of you constantly whining" You are the only one whining buddy, as we can both clearly see from these messages. "I promise you that I do not think about you at all" You keep messaging me with these essays. Give it a rest already. "and am mostly just curious to understand why you would hit a peaceful minds-his-own nation like mine" I only spied you once (and everyone in Arrgh) after Arrgh attacked me months ago, which was because Hatebi nuked me and then you guys raided me afterwards. So cry me a river. What goes around comes around. I never spied you again and only attacked because you attacked us first. "So I ask again, are you Russian? Because what you are doing is exactly the way that Russians and MAGA people argue. Blaming me for starting this is just the sort of thing Putin is doing to Ukraine and Trump is doing to Canada. That is not an attempt to bring up meaningless politics, but actually to see if you are fascist wannabes, which is what I suspect you are. Why else would you mimic your masters?" You are actually really, really stupid. I will respond to this nonsense one time and that is it. I am a Canadian just as you are and vote New Democrat. Not everything in this world is related to Ukraine, Trump or Putin and you are not the center of the universe. People who you have disagreements with on internet games are not fascists in real life. You sound truly miserable. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/17/2025 Monday 1:05 pm Seen If you recall even the slightest thing about me as you claim you do, you know that the only thing I do care about is pushing back on bullies like you guys. I have not touched Oblivion until about 6 months ago, when, after several requests for the SIMPLEST explanation of why you guys were spying me every single day for over a year, none was given. You guys started this 100%, and I let it slide for over a year before finally responding to it. Want it to stop? Stop the spy attacks. In 2 years, I have only ever caught Oblivion spies. I think you misinderstood my comment when I said I was going to quit the game out of boredom. You guys literally gave me a reason to play again when I introduced this winning cycle. I now have 3 of you constantly whining about the damage I am doing, and we are all laughing at you over it. Gotta say, you look weaker ever time I hit you guys. I promise you that I do not think about you at all, and am mostly just curious to understand why you would hit a peaceful minds-his-own nation like mine, and in so doing inflict damage on yourselves. You guys are like watching a cartoon character stepping on a rake, and it is funny as hell. So I ask again, are you Russian? Because what you are doing is exactly the way that Russians and MAGA people argue. Blaming me for starting this is just the sort of thing Putin is doing to Ukraine and Trump is doing to Canada. That is not an attempt to bring up meaningless politics, but actually to see if you are fascist wannabes, which is what I suspect you are. Why else would you mimic your masters? From: Mayor Date: 03/16/2025 Sunday 11:50 pm Block Communications You take every opportunity to claim you are not serious when I literally do not care, you messaged me, and I would be perfectly fine if you just stop responding. Seeing you seethe and cope about losing some online game war tho is quite amusing. Please continue to respond and tell me how little you pay attention to this game and how little you care. "I am not the one who is systematically hitting someone every day for 2 years. That kind of thing is the follow through of people who take this sort of thing seriously." You literally do exactly this... You have been hitting Oblivion for over 2 years and I don't even look at your nation except when you attack us. You seemingly think about us 24/7 and that is not healthy. Imagine being so tilted that you dedicate 2 years (and counting) to a feud in a browser game. Also a tell tale sign of someone projecting is once they start bringing up meaningless politics. Step away from the internet for a few minutes and your life will improve quite a bit. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/16/2025 Sunday 8:23 pm Seen Lmao do you think I take this game seriously? I am not the one who is systematically hitting someone every day for 2 years. That kind of thing is the follow through of people who take this sort of thing seriously. Are you Russian? Because you argue like a MAGA From: Mayor Date: 03/15/2025 Saturday 11:32 pm Block Communications My nightly partying days are behind me, not everyone is in their late 30's constantly doped out on drugs like you are. At some point you have to grow up Buck and realize this is just a silly little browser game that not everyone takes as seriously as you do. Takes a few minutes each day sure but I am not emotionally invested. Take a break sometime, looks like you need one. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/15/2025 Saturday 12:35 pm Seen LOL you were all active on a Friday night. 'nuff said From: Mayor Date: 03/14/2025 Friday 1:19 am Block Communications Buck, you cope so hard, I barely think of you other than for free stats. I only remember you in the early days since you have done literally nothing since other than a few (funny) game reports. You are the one who attacks Oblivion religiously and devotes their time to a useless feud that only exists in your head. "Sticking it to bullies" buddy this is a pixel war game, get a life. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:54 pm Seen Well, I guess you are better at pixels than I am - well done. I do not understand how statpadding motivates you kids. And I have gotten my revenge, and will keep getting it. You go on and keep measuring your worth in this game, and I will continue to do so outside of it. I am super satisfied with this arrangement - there is nothing I have ever loved as much as sticking it to bullies. Whoa do you go back to the Warps days? I really don't remember you other than the name and you being a stick in the mud weeboo. Maybe I am thinking of someone else, but I am glad that I made an impression on you. From: Mayor Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:17 pm Block Communications Buddy, you got demoted like 100 times due to how much you suck in government. Your war stats suck, you never won a real war anyways though, you always bailed on Arrgh hard when the going got tough. No one in Arrgh has sucked as hard as you have. You the epitome of an Arrgh loser. I feel bad for letting Warpool, Jacob and others promote you to admiral out of pity because we all felt so bad for you and your pathetic record. You even said yourself that you would leave if it wasn't for Oblivion, thats how much you suck, you have been unable to get any sort of revenge for 2 years. No offense I hardly pay attention other than to laugh at you from time to time and remember there is always someone worse off. Best of luck to you anyways bud. Find some success in life for once. From: Buck Turgidson Date: 03/13/2025 Thursday 9:10 pm Seen You know that you guys started this. You have been spying me every day for 2 years. You sucked back in the day, and boy do you ever suck now. I like your use of the National Affairs subforum. As I used to use this place so much back in the day (half my forum posts are here) it really warms my heart to see you contribute Buck. Thanks buddy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hidude45454 Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 (edited) Meanwhile: Pirate #1 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=558836 Pirate #2 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=584727 Chat I can't believe we hired two weebs obsessed with cats to hit Buck... Oblivion is the cat alliance so it makes sense... he figured it all out through his 19203 iq... this is so sad chat... Edited May 14 by hidude45454 12 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexiosKomnenos Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 What the f*** did you just f***ing say about me, you little incel? I’ll have you know I’ve personally dissolved more alliances than you’ve had Friday nights out, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret retaliatory wars against Oblivion. I have over 300 confirmed spy counterattacks. I am trained in economic and military attrition warfare, and I’m the top strategist in the entire Orbis sphere. You are nothing to me but just another beige timer. I will wipe you the f*** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this server, mark my f***ing words. You think you can get away with that pathetic little spy harassment for over two years and pretend you’re not responsible? Think again, maggot. As we speak, my network of emissaries is openly gathering intelligence, and every one of your cowardly espionage attempts resets the timer on your demise. You better prepare for the storm, you little pusillanimous fool. The storm that wipes out the sad excuse you call your alliance. You’re f***ing done, kid. I can hit anywhere, anytime, and I can counterattack in over 700 ways, and that’s just with conventional beige mechanics. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed war counters, but I have access to the full arsenal of Orbis economic devastation, and I will unleash it without mercy to wipe your miserable pixel existence off the map, you little shit. And in case you’re wondering, yes, my IQ is 174—measured, verified, and currently being put to work dismantling your entire operation while you sit there mashing the spy button like a Pavlovian lab rat. If only you could comprehend the unholy retribution your little “clever” daily spy attacks have brought down upon you, maybe you would have held your f***ing tongue and stayed in your basement where you belong. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over your worthless alliance, and you will drown in the beige cycle. You’re f***ing dead, kiddo. Tick tock. 2 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helium Raven Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I'm glad to see National Affairs rebranded with a new purpose. Thank you for being so brave and sharing with the group. I too would like to take this opportunity to publicly announce that I am an unmedicated paranoid Schizophrenic. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helium Raven Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 STOP GIVING CREDIT TO OTHER PEOPLE FOR MY YEARS OF DAILY SPY OPERATIONS 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevanovia Posted May 15 Popular Post Share Posted May 15 For the longest time, thought you were just cosplaying a sensitive out of touch troll that was yelling at clouds to be ironic. Honestly thought it was funny. However, seeing you make personal attacks on some very kind people makes it seem that the ridiculously embarrassing persona you have been displaying is legitimate. Pretty big bummer. On the bright side: if what you said is true & you made your first million @ 32/happily married for so many years with wonderful children/live a fulfilling life, that should give a ton of hope to a lot of the younger players here. If you can pull that off while treating people like this and acting like you do, anyone can do it 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Damn poor @Denison catching strays from Hidude. 😭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukimiya Kenyu Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 What 撚柒 thefuc is this wall of text That one Blue Lock fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sketchy Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 @Buck Turgidson BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS BIGGEST BLACKEST KNIGHTS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 He has an iq of 172, I’m shaking in my low iq of 130 😔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 14 hours ago, Benfro said: From an in-game rules standpoint, you are actively soliciting spy slot filling. It’s hard to prove but still against the rules. So would encourage you to tread carefully. but alas. The crux of the issue here is you spent half your post accusing people of having no dating life (and assuming Friday night and Saturday nights are the only time for romance for some reason?) and outright talking about @Mayor having ASD despite not having any actual reason to do so. Logs or not, this is not relevant to some in-game, in-character actions. Neither of these things is relevant. But it does create a hostile game community for people who are different. so let me be the first to speak up and say behavior like THAT is not welcome in this community. If you want to deal with in-game actions, then negotiate. Join an alliance that will support or defend you. Play the politics that this nationsim requires. Or accept the consequences of inaction. Thank you for your reply. It is the only one so far tha did not contravene the game rules on baiting, trolling, flaming…etc. 1) I am encouraging transparency and yes it would mean that my spy slots would be filled. They are filled today and have been for 2 years, rather than losing nukes, I would prefer give people a risk-free way to gain transparency. It is not like I won’t suffer the full effects of the spy attack in either case, so it is not slot filling, which I think is when you have a war slot filled by a friendly who then proceeds to not attack - that is against the rules, and not what I am proposing. 2) The theories that I developed, over a period of 2 years were the following: A ) Just a bunch of statpadders or trolls. That kind tends to go away after a few months. Not a fit here because they started full on one day and never stopped, never missed a day, and always did the same thing: attack spies, nukes, and missiles. To be that systematic suggests that it is either personal or a larger power play. Given that I have been long retired, and rarely participate in wars, the former seemed much more likely. But why personal? Like I said, I have been retired for a very long time, and this is just a browser game. B ) It is personal. Believable. No doubt I have pissed people off in the past. But like I said, I have been retired for a very long time, so why 2 years ago? Nothing was going on then and the most recent issue I had was when I outed Mars for having porn on his Discord when there were kids my sons’ ages on there, and he quit the game, if I recall, about 4 years ago over that. That was really disgusting, and I reported it to the forums at the time as well. C ) When one of the explanations came out that Mayor was still upset with me over something I apparently did to him over a decade ago (and like I said, I have no idea who this guy is, but he mentioned memorable people in his grievance so I have no reason to disbelieve him), that stuck out. I have recently completed a large scale VR project in which I employed 66 interns who studied at a public college here in Quebec, and had more than 20 autistic and ADHD coders over the project. My project stood out because not only was it successful in delivering what I promised, but the fact that I aggressively included people of all kinds to the benefit of innovation was and currently still is celebrated. I had men and women, 3 trans students, people of all colours and faiths, more than half were recent immigrants, and a significant slice of neurodivergent students who were propelled into the education sector by pandemic employment programs. I took their EAPs seriously and made it work, so please do not mistake my sensitivity to DEI issues for some sort of attempt to exclude people - you are way wrong on this point. When Mayor revealed that he was holding a grudge over this game for 10 years, that stood out as a key: I have observed this sort of mercurial behaviour among all of the interns I had who openly identified as autistic, specifically. From my experience, folks with that superpower are also prone to getting hung up over perceived slights, and they don’t easily let go. So from where I stand, I definitely have a solid basis for making this point with regards to Mayor, and firmly believe it. It is relevant, because if that is the issue, then I can deal with it as such, and if it is not, then it should lead me to the real reason why Mayor waited 8 years after I apparently upset him to convince his crew to spy me daily, and then wait another 1.5 years before revealing the reason for what was going on over this browser game. I had an intern yell at another 3 months after the second one failed to greet the first on a call early in their internship - full throated yelling, 3 months after the person did not say hello, or was simply inaudible. A scientific approach is by definition open to being proven wrong, so I am all ears - until then all I have to go on is my direct experience employing neurodivergent people. What alternatives do you suggest? I raised this as a red flag because I genuinely believe that Mayor is in distress, and that joining a band of bullies is not healthy for him or anyone who behaves like he does whatever the diagnosis. D ) Since I got a strike for using the word that describes young men who could benefit from the attention of a girl but don’t get any such attention, my reason for that is clear: while I am out with friends or family on most Friday and Saturday nights, you know, being a normal, sociable person, the entirely of Oblivion is online throughout both of those nights during every war we have had. They are toxic, all dudes, bullies, and seem to ever be grieving something. Again, just seems to for the bill. Mayor claims to be in his late 20s, so being hung up over a perceived slight from when he was in his late teens suggests the sort of immaturity I described above. The rest of them, save 2 (Vokk3r and Roquentin), are either children or failed adults imho. So, I have tried diplomacy, am do not cave to bullies so I will stay where I am, and I am playing the game, responsibly. I am blowing the whistle on toxic behaviour, a neurodivergent individual who is in distress, and soliciting help from Orbis to put an end to this. I am just as happy to be left alone in my sleepy hollow as I am to keep up the fight, but that is not my decision. Hence the analogy of them stepping on a rake. Where were you 2 years ago to this day? How about in December 2023? April 2024? July 2024? How about September 2024, or January 2025? This has been going on all of this time: one alliance picking on 1 nation and of none of the above explanations fit, what is the real one? Lastly, it is not just me. They have been doing this to other players as well, but never against one for nearly as long, so be careful about joining the ranks of the other commenters below and simply knee-jerking to blaming the victim. If this community is meant to be inclusive, why is the word “autistic” treated as a swear? 1 1 Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. 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Mayor Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: Thank you for your reply. It is the only one so far tha did not contravene the game rules on baiting, trolling, flaming…etc. 1) I am encouraging transparency and yes it would mean that my spy slots would be filled. They are filled today and have been for 2 years, rather than losing nukes, I would prefer give people a risk-free way to gain transparency. It is not like I won’t suffer the full effects of the spy attack in either case, so it is not slot filling, which I think is when you have a war slot filled by a friendly who then proceeds to not attack - that is against the rules, and not what I am proposing. 2) The theories that I developed, over a period of 2 years were the following: A ) Just a bunch of statpadders or trolls. That kind tends to go away after a few months. Not a fit here because they started full on one day and never stopped, never missed a day, and always did the same thing: attack spies, nukes, and missiles. To be that systematic suggests that it is either personal or a larger power play. Given that I have been long retired, and rarely participate in wars, the former seemed much more likely. But why personal? Like I said, I have been retired for a very long time, and this is just a browser game. B ) It is personal. Believable. No doubt I have pissed people off in the past. But like I said, I have been retired for a very long time, so why 2 years ago? Nothing was going on then and the most recent issue I had was when I outed Mars for having porn on his Discord when there were kids my sons’ ages on there, and he quit the game, if I recall, about 4 years ago over that. That was really disgusting, and I reported it to the forums at the time as well. C ) When one of the explanations came out that Mayor was still upset with me over something I apparently did to him over a decade ago (and like I said, I have no idea who this guy is, but he mentioned memorable people in his grievance so I have no reason to disbelieve him), that stuck out. I have recently completed a large scale VR project in which I employed 66 interns who studied at a public college here in Quebec, and had more than 20 autistic and ADHD coders over the project. My project stood out because not only was it successful in delivering what I promised, but the fact that I aggressively included people of all kinds to the benefit of innovation was and currently still is celebrated. I had men and women, 3 trans students, people of all colours and faiths, more than half were recent immigrants, and a significant slice of neurodivergent students who were propelled into the education sector by pandemic employment programs. I took their EAPs seriously and made it work, so please do not mistake my sensitivity to DEI issues for some sort of attempt to exclude people - you are way wrong on this point. When Mayor revealed that he was holding a grudge over this game for 10 years, that stood out as a key: I have observed this sort of mercurial behaviour among all of the interns I had who openly identified as autistic, specifically. From my experience, folks with that superpower are also prone to getting hung up over perceived slights, and they don’t easily let go. So from where I stand, I definitely have a solid basis for making this point with regards to Mayor, and firmly believe it. It is relevant, because if that is the issue, then I can deal with it as such, and if it is not, then it should lead me to the real reason why Mayor waited 8 years after I apparently upset him to convince his crew to spy me daily, and then wait another 1.5 years before revealing the reason for what was going on over this browser game. I had an intern yell at another 3 months after the second one failed to greet the first on a call early in their internship - full throated yelling, 3 months after the person did not say hello, or was simply inaudible. A scientific approach is by definition open to being proven wrong, so I am all ears - until then all I have to go on is my direct experience employing neurodivergent people. What alternatives do you suggest? I raised this as a red flag because I genuinely believe that Mayor is in distress, and that joining a band of bullies is not healthy for him or anyone who behaves like he does whatever the diagnosis. D ) Since I got a strike for using the word that describes young men who could benefit from the attention of a girl but don’t get any such attention, my reason for that is clear: while I am out with friends or family on most Friday and Saturday nights, you know, being a normal, sociable person, the entirely of Oblivion is online throughout both of those nights during every war we have had. They are toxic, all dudes, bullies, and seem to ever be grieving something. Again, just seems to for the bill. Mayor claims to be in his late 20s, so being hung up over a perceived slight from when he was in his late teens suggests the sort of immaturity I described above. The rest of them, save 2 (Vokk3r and Roquentin), are either children or failed adults imho. So, I have tried diplomacy, am do not cave to bullies so I will stay where I am, and I am playing the game, responsibly. I am blowing the whistle on toxic behaviour, a neurodivergent individual who is in distress, and soliciting help from Orbis to put an end to this. I am just as happy to be left alone in my sleepy hollow as I am to keep up the fight, but that is not my decision. Hence the analogy of them stepping on a rake. Where were you 2 years ago to this day? How about in December 2023? April 2024? July 2024? How about September 2024, or January 2025? This has been going on all of this time: one alliance picking on 1 nation and of none of the above explanations fit, what is the real one? Lastly, it is not just me. They have been doing this to other players as well, but never against one for nearly as long, so be careful about joining the ranks of the other commenters below and simply knee-jerking to blaming the victim. If this community is meant to be inclusive, why is the word “autistic” treated as a swear? Didn't read any of it but I assume it is all lies and incoherent nonsense like usual. Besides the leaked DMs which proves nothing at all Buck has provided no proof for all his spying claims, all his accusations towards me, everything he claims I have done and has provided nothing but slander and lies. Am I guilty of trolling him a bit in the DMs? Sure. He has attacked me for what seems like years on end, making up lies about my past and person, and just generally being an incredibly miserable individual all around. I have spied him occasionally when he or his Arrgh mates attack me and for that he has dedicated his life to warring me and my alliance and slandering me wherever he can by spreading lies. He demands to have no accountability for his actions and to be defended from any and all actions he takes, at the same time he makes posts and threads like these. Everything he claims me of doing, grudges, harassment, attacks, toxicity he is guilty of, while taking absolutely no responsibility for. Multiple game reports trying to get my alliance mates banned, endless harassment in DMs and insults, endless attacks in game from himself and his alliance, even placing some bounties for some reason. Anyways.. this whole saga is incredibly taxing so I won't be replying to this thread any further just wanted to post this video: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mayor said: 1) it is obvious you did not read it. You know what happens when you assume, don’t you? See the following points. 2) What I said is coherent for the following reasons: 3) I posted the proof in the OP. Helium posted even more himself. 4) iPod posted your own words in the OP. Cut and paste from our messages. 5) Refer to my nation graph to see when all this started. Communication with you came after it started. Honestly bro, I do not remember you at all. Ironically, I will not forget you now. 6) Again, I started our conversation on the back of your war declaration message and one of your crew saying you harbour a grudge. And you revealed that you do indeed as soon as we got in touch. No. Effing. Idea. Who. You. Are. 7) I am the one holding you and 12 members to account. Saying otherwise is some skippy brainrot. 8 ) I take no action. Ever. I am just like a rake resting on the ground. It is becoming increasingly obvious that plain old stupidity may explain your collective and individual actions. 9) Again, read the thread. You guys have been harassing me for 2 years, every single day, and I have repeatedly caught you, warned, and attempted to understand what was up, but you are not being reasonable. Proof of that is that you did not read what I wrote above. 10) Don’t get me wrong. I am happy to keep duking it out. But trust me when I say that getting old largely consists learning to live with subpar outcomes, so continuing this is right in my old man territory: stubborn and patient. I will destroy Oblivion. I have offered you an alternative, so the choice is yours. PS. the format of this response should be familiar to you, and there is nothing wrong with that. Edited May 16 by Buck Turgidson 2 3 Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helium Raven Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 chat please help I am an autistic playing a game designed solely for and by autistics and I am now in DISTRESS because I utilised a game mechanic too frequently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 5/14/2025 at 5:32 PM, Benfro said: From an in-game rules standpoint, you are actively soliciting spy slot filling. It’s hard to prove but still against the rules. So would encourage you to tread carefully. Erm ackchually he requested them to gather intel on his nation which does not fill spy slots. This character assassination has not gone unnoticed. 2 Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: 1) it is obvious you did not read it. You know what happens when you assume, don’t you? See the following points. 2) What I said is coherent for the following reasons: 3) I posted the proof in the OP. Helium posted even more himself. 4) iPod posted your own words in the OP. Cut and paste from our messages. 5) Refer to my nation graph to see when all this started. Communication with you came after it started. Honestly bro, I do not remember you at all. Ironically, I will not forget you now. 6) Again, I started our conversation on the back of your war declaration message and one of your crew saying you harbour a grudge. And you revealed that you do indeed as soon as we got in touch. No. Effing. Idea. Who. You. Are. 7) I am the one holding you and 12 members to account. Saying otherwise is some skippy brainrot. 8 ) I take no action. Ever. I am just like a rake resting on the ground. It is becoming increasingly obvious that plain old stupidity may explain your collective and individual actions. 9) Again, read the thread. You guys have been harassing me for 2 years, every single day, and I have repeatedly caught you, warned, and attempted to understand what was up, but you are not being reasonable. Proof of that is that you did not read what I wrote above. 10) Don’t get me wrong. I am happy to keep duking it out. But trust me when I say that getting old largely consists learning to live with subpar outcomes, so continuing this is right in my old man territory: stubborn and patient. I will destroy Oblivion. I have offered you an alternative, so the choice is yours. PS. the format of this response should be familiar to you, and there is nothing wrong with that. Not reading any of that other crap but this made me laugh. You have only ever destroyed yourself. Everything you have ever done here has been a failure, you were booted from Arrgh so many times you had to beg your way back, booted from Yarr, and your other alliance Human whatever was also a failure. No one needs to even attack you because you suicide into someone eventually and destroy yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 10 hours ago, Mayor said: Not reading any of that other crap but this made me laugh. You have only ever destroyed yourself. Everything you have ever done here has been a failure, you were booted from Arrgh so many times you had to beg your way back, booted from Yarr, and your other alliance Human whatever was also a failure. No one needs to even attack you because you suicide into someone eventually and destroy yourself. Lucky at cards, unlucky at love I guess. You are really good at this game. That sure explains a lot about you. Again - no idea who you are. FYI I resigned from Yarr after a dispute that put me back in the leader role, and am proud of ending it over letting Prefontaine join us. He was a despicable person, and I put him down for good and all when I defeated the Admin Alliance and had him removed from the top player roster. Like I said, if you won't read anything, you are not reasonable. And it is possible for people like you to also just be jerks. Get well. 1 1 Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 On 5/14/2025 at 7:28 PM, AlexiosKomnenos said: What the f*** did you just f***ing say about me, you little incel? I’ll have you know I’ve personally dissolved more alliances than you’ve had Friday nights out, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret retaliatory wars against Oblivion. I have over 300 confirmed spy counterattacks. I am trained in economic and military attrition warfare, and I’m the top strategist in the entire Orbis sphere. You are nothing to me but just another beige timer. I will wipe you the f*** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this server, mark my f***ing words. You think you can get away with that pathetic little spy harassment for over two years and pretend you’re not responsible? Think again, maggot. As we speak, my network of emissaries is openly gathering intelligence, and every one of your cowardly espionage attempts resets the timer on your demise. You better prepare for the storm, you little pusillanimous fool. The storm that wipes out the sad excuse you call your alliance. You’re f***ing done, kid. I can hit anywhere, anytime, and I can counterattack in over 700 ways, and that’s just with conventional beige mechanics. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed war counters, but I have access to the full arsenal of Orbis economic devastation, and I will unleash it without mercy to wipe your miserable pixel existence off the map, you little shit. And in case you’re wondering, yes, my IQ is 174—measured, verified, and currently being put to work dismantling your entire operation while you sit there mashing the spy button like a Pavlovian lab rat. If only you could comprehend the unholy retribution your little “clever” daily spy attacks have brought down upon you, maybe you would have held your f***ing tongue and stayed in your basement where you belong. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over your worthless alliance, and you will drown in the beige cycle. You’re f***ing dead, kiddo. Tick tock. LMAO I just saw this. I am getting you to redact my future walls of text before publication It frames the toxicity issue on Orbis well - the funny thing about this is that this is how they have been communicating to me, without cause as far as I can tell, unless Mayor can tell me what I did to hurt his feelings a decade ago. Maybe then I will remember him. I would like to thank the first emissary to my nation and hope they found the information they gathered valuable. 1 Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: Lucky at cards, unlucky at love I guess. You are really good at this game. That sure explains a lot about you. Again - no idea who you are. FYI I resigned from Yarr after a dispute that put me back in the leader role, and am proud of ending it over letting Prefontaine join us. He was a despicable person, and I put him down for good and all when I defeated the Admin Alliance and had him removed from the top player roster. Like I said, if you won't read anything, you are not reasonable. And it is possible for people like you to also just be jerks. Get well. You are completely insane. You are the only person being a jerk here, harassing everyone, lying about me and my past, insulting me for literally no reason, saying I have mental illnesses or autism, trying to go attack me OOC or call me an incel, it goes on and on and now you are trying to get others to join in as well. You are the type of person who would DOX me to prove a point and think you were justified in doing so. You are a disgusting human being and honestly should feel ashamed but you are clearly incapable of that. You really need to take a step back and look in the mirror. You are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helium Raven Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: I would like to thank the first emissary to my nation and hope they found the information they gathered valuable. How do you suck so hard that you fail even when you try to break the rules. another #fartsmellersonfail You successfully gathered intelligence about Darwinium of Slugs. Your spies discovered that Darwinium of Slugs has $94,343,850.34, 372.81 coal, 3,394.51 oil, 4,427.99 uranium, 2,588.18 lead, 447.60 iron, 4,805.28 bauxite, 12,752.42 gasoline, 14,016.37 munitions, 6,649.60 steel, 4,072.08 aluminum and 40,067.98 food. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $168,000.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, Helium Raven said: How do you suck so hard that you fail even when you try to break the rules. another #fartsmellersonfail You successfully gathered intelligence about Darwinium of Slugs. Your spies discovered that Darwinium of Slugs has $94,343,850.34, 372.81 coal, 3,394.51 oil, 4,427.99 uranium, 2,588.18 lead, 447.60 iron, 4,805.28 bauxite, 12,752.42 gasoline, 14,016.37 munitions, 6,649.60 steel, 4,072.08 aluminum and 40,067.98 food. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $168,000.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Nice cash reserves, make sure you ground battle that off him :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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