Popular Post Vice Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Why did this need to be a post? Just agree and do it without the fireworks. “Bro u wanna fight” ”nah bro” “ok, let’s demil” -end of transaction. edit: just saw article three. *sigh* Edited May 25, 2022 by Vice 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KindaEpicMoah Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 The biggest winner of this deal is WANA for letting Morf make the post and eat all of the downvotes 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RightHonorable Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sphinx said: Not surprising.. Rose finally got their "Worse fighters of 2021" award, so they and t$ obviously thought they needed to team up with Hollywood to ensure they don't win it again in 2022. Somehow this move has me agreeing with Sphinx publicly, which is truly an impressive feat 11 Quote Haatyc or'arue jate'shya ori'sol aru'ike nuhaatyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrawolf Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Grave said: If this global happened It would have been the 3rd time this year (2022) TI fought T$ what do you want us to do to spice things up? And this is the second time TI teams up with another sphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Iroh Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Fortune favors the bold. Only diplomatic geniuses could have thought of this maneuver. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grave Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ibrawolf said: And this is the second time TI teams up with another sphere. The only way that statement holds, even theoretically is if there is already concrete, set up plans for clock and BR to team up on either HW or celestial while they are demilitarized . Is that what your saying right now? Edited May 25, 2022 by Grave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Grave said: So how else to you outright prevent proxy wars and not just "please dont do that" with them Ok it appears I have to explain what a proxy war is.... When a superpower (bloc) instagates a war but does not get involved in directly is a proxy war. It's a war by proxy. Pretty simple basic stuff and you know, kinda self explanatory. The P&W term you are looking for is Chaining Wars. 3 Quote FORMER LEADER OF COTL. PLEASE GROW INTERNALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindaEpicMoah Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, Leftbehind said: How brave and beautiful you two are... Does the good ol' brave and beautiful campaign need to be revived for *checks notes* half of the alliances in the game? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grave Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Leftbehind said: Ok it appears I have to explain what a proxy war is.... When a superpower (bloc) instagates a war but does not get involved in directly is a proxy war. It's a war by proxy. Pretty simple basic stuff and you know, kinda self explanatory. The P&W term you are looking for is Chaining Wars. Okay so since the clause was to ensure that one side didnt instigate a war that they arent involved in by forcing them to be involved on the opposite side of the group they're influencing. It seems like you were wrong after all Edited May 25, 2022 by Grave Spelt instigate correctly and added clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzard Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Remember when BW and CB went to war with Oasis and MInc for forming a treaty between their spheres? Does the BW side of Celestial care to comment on that now? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Changeup Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Let me get this straight. Two spheres that comprise a majority of c30+ nations in the entire game are signing a "temporary" MDP? What sort of drugs convinced people that doing this, and making everyone else aware of it, was a good idea? Someone must be real terrified of the mighty Johnsons. Edited May 25, 2022 by Changeup 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skae Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 This is cringe ngl that you two need to team up against clock speaks volumes of what you think about your spheres ability to fight. 6 Quote Why are you reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrawolf Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Grave said: The only way that statement holds, even theoretically is if there is already concrete, set up plans for clock and BR to team up on either HW or celestial while they are demilitarized . Is that what your saying right now? Read Article 3 again Slowly. Why are you so paranoid of BR and CB to team up? We have a war between us and not cuddling. You need to believe in yourself! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zukran Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Its pretty obvious Celestial and Hollywood don't have an interest in warring at the current time. However neither side can deescalate without making themselves open to attack from clock, which clock has a history of rolling one bloc then taking advantage of their already built military to attack another.(This literally just happened) This agreement disincentives Clock rolling Celestial or Hollywood after the de-escalation. If Clock truly had no interest in attacking either of them, then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Unless another micro bloc wanted to attack Celestial or Hollywood, which I highly doubt. Then after the Clock - Backroom fiasco everything will be back to normal. This isn't a long term pact and Celestial and Hollywood will go right back to being rivals like they have been for years. To think this some how made a jumbo bloc is ridiculous. Both sides just want to deescalate from the situation but cover there butts from clock. So... whats the issue? Why are we really upset? 1 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindaEpicMoah Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ibrawolf said: Read Article 3 again Slowly. Why are you so paranoid of BR and CB to team up? We have a war between us and not cuddling. You need to believe in yourself! Clearly Grave here is scared of another KERCHTOGG esq situation and needs his mummy to tuck him in to bed each night lest he wakes up with his alliance rolled 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Insert Name Here Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Being an HW member I'm the 1st to say there's a foul stench of pixel huggery coming from this. If you let Ockey do your FA we'd all have much more fun, just saying. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Vice said: Why did this need to be a post? Just agree and do it without the fireworks. So that people can pretend to not see the "During this period of demilitarization" and shitpost a bit It is also true that we are at a point where some whales need a day off just to change all their cities if they don't have vip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duluth Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Temporarily Quack? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istandor Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 "It is okay when we do it but heaven forbid any other sphere form a MDP in any capacity." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Smh tbh no one pointing out the real issue… the lack of every single sphere member gov’s signatures. Morf bad. 1 3 Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JadenStar10 Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Wall of Shame On 1/11/2022 at 2:25 AM, General Kenobi said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Mysoasis Mdp On 1/15/2022 at 10:54 AM, NATO said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis - Mystery Not so secret MDP On 1/10/2022 at 9:13 PM, Michael Gary Scott said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: the immortals and myst inc treaty On 12/9/2021 at 4:41 PM, Lord Taxalot said: This is so stupid... On 12/8/2021 at 4:25 PM, Joe Schmo said: Imagine forming a megasphere when literally everyone wants microspheres. On 12/8/2021 at 4:34 AM, Big Mac said: The hypocrisy is amazing. I’m very surprised precedent has not shown that the game hates oversized spheres. Especially spheres which are so large they are double the size of the next largest sphere - especially spheres which have over 1500 damn nations. Duck Hunt wasn’t that long ago that it has been forgotten has it? This ‘defensive’ manoeuvre may well have signed New Swamp’s death warrant. Does this contend for this years ‘Worst FA move?’ Oh yeh, this is a perspective from someone linked to Oasis btw On 12/7/2021 at 11:06 PM, Indger said: This is funny lol. People supporting minispheres breaking the current state of minispheres in game. this indicates double standards to me as they were the one against big spheres and were also supporting minispheres and now they have themselves formed a big one, but at least it is public, so goodluck! On 12/8/2021 at 12:00 AM, Darth Revan said: Why yes, being in a coalition together is the same as signing a sphere level MDP. Your reasoning is simply astounding, no wonder you're in R&R On 12/8/2021 at 12:20 AM, Zach LaVine said: Working together with another sphere defensively is taboo and counts as a secret treaty or a hegemony, that’s never considered good. Working together with another sphere offensively though is perfectly fine without a treaty, so if you’re simply working offensively with them then signing a treaty was the dumbest thing ever, so either your leadership is full of the biggest idiots this game has ever seen and none of them should be leading their alliances or you guys willingly chose to create the largest bloc in the game and are now lying for damage control purposes. You can pick whichever it is, I don’t really care which, neither of them reflect well on you. On 12/8/2021 at 1:47 AM, The Titan said: There's a different between coordinating with a sphere to form an offensive coalition, and creating a sphere to form a defensive coalition imo. This is no different than building one massive low-tier consolidating sphere. On 12/7/2021 at 8:26 PM, leonissenbaum said: It's hilarious that anyone thought this was a good idea On 12/7/2021 at 7:48 PM, Darth Ataxia said: This is one of the, if not the most stupid treaties this game has ever seen. On 1/10/2022 at 3:11 PM, Bradley said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis-Minc MDP On 1/10/2022 at 3:30 PM, Jordan said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis Mystery Treaty On 1/10/2022 at 4:02 PM, wasteking said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis Mystery Treaty On 1/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, darkblade said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis and Mystery Inc signing a temporary MDP On 1/10/2022 at 8:46 PM, Kurdanak said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis - Mystery MDP On 1/10/2022 at 11:43 PM, Achilleus said: orst Foreign Affairs Move: the immortals and myst inc treaty On 1/12/2022 at 1:55 AM, Belisarius said: Worst Foreign Affairs Move: Oasis-Mystery MDP On 12/12/2021 at 3:01 PM, Sir Scarfalot said: The difference is actually that offensive coalitions enable attacks against the largest spheres, thus ensuring that no-one can overwhelm the entire game and thus stagnate it, while defensive coalitions are built in order to ensure that the defenders cannot be hit at all, which stagnates the game. That's the difference On 12/11/2021 at 11:21 PM, Zei-Sakura Alsainn said: All this coward ass "lay down and die or hide behind daddy swamp" talk. What the !@#$ ever happened to seeing your enemy coming, knowing they're superior, and cackling like a deranged berserker as you blitz 30 into 900? And this wasn't even that! And half their block wasn't even militarizing! Someone in orbis must've gotten a bloody fine new set of golf clubs and pitching wedges because otherwise I don't know where your spines up and went off to! On 12/11/2021 at 7:01 PM, Agent W said: Investor Contact: Justin Media Contact: WANA Hello Friends, As I am sure you have all surmised at this point, a state of war exists between the Syndicate and Oasis/Mystery Inc. It is my duty to inform you of the reasons for the existence of such a state. This was not a decision we entered into lightly, but as I have said in this venue before, it is the responsibility of leaders in this game to make the bold choices that need to be made. Over the course of this week, things have gone from zero to sixty quite fast, so let me break it down. Over the past weekend, the Syndicate had observed that members of Clock had gone to full militarization, with Oasis quick to follow. We opted to build to a readiness specification as a precaution, expecting that a war in Orbis was imminent, but not having concrete evidence of who the plot centered around. On this past Tuesday, we were all graced by an abomination of a treaty between Oasis and Mystery Inc. It was a treaty that flew in the face of precedent on this planet. This is especially so when the groups who played a major part in setting those norms were the same people behind the treaty. Simply put, it was of great concern to me, not just as an alliance leader, but someone who, by burden of their leadership, cares deeply about the competitive meta of the game. While it appeared at first that this was a move designed to be defensive in nature, it left more questions than answers for me. Conversations started to swirl quickly, however, with multiple sphere leaders conversing with each other at once about the implications of this move, and what a potential war might look like this cycle. It was my hope that alliance leaders would condemn this kind of boldfaced move, and I am glad to see that community sentiment has been against the pairing. After discussions with relevant parties, it became clear that such a grouping could be a threat to the safety and security of Blackwater. For some time during this peace cycle, various parties have intimated about Blackwater’s size, and how Blackwater is a threat. To those in the know, this line is quite ludicrous. However, narratives that are formed are a means to a political end, usually a war against who the narrative targets. Given this understanding, The Syndicate approached the world cautiously, as to not give the impression that we were looking to tussle. It was during this time I was approached with the belief that Oasis was looking to begin a war with BW, and had been putting out feelers about such a move. This did not sound like a preposterous notion to me, given Oasis’ previous concerns about mini-spheres. When considering the veracity of this information, it became reasonably clear that Oasis may want to strike BW, especially when you consider our tiering compared to theirs. While there has been significant muddying of the water in recent days, the fact remains that Oasis acted swiftly to coalesce with Mystery. This is not a move anyone should take lightly, it signals an intent to put what is politically convenient over their ideals. Mystery and Oasis working together is a threat to the Syndicate, and, as my track record has shown, I am not one to call the bluff of the person making that threat. I’m sure Oasis will have plenty to say in this thread, especially regarding a late attempt to sue for peace in this conflict. This attempt was met by Blackwater representatives with a seriousness about dialogue and an open mind to preventing this conflict. The Blackwater representatives in that conversation made it clear that we weren’t entirely opposed to a peaceful resolution, but made our expectations for any de-escalation clear. Despite the word and a self-imposed deadline on the behalf of Oasis, those expectations were not met. It is somewhat unfortunate that despite our efforts to engage in this dialogue, we were spurned. It is my hope that this war brings about a reflection by the community on what they want from the game. From day one in my tenure as Chief Global Strategist, I have repeated my belief that it is the players that make this game great. That players have agency to shape this world into what they want it to be. I for one want a world where stagnation and laziness are seen as a problem, not the solution. /s/ WANA: Chief Global Strategist About SYNDICATE, INC., SYNDICATE, Inc., based near Nassau, The Bahamas, is the world's leading gasoline, aluminum, steel and munitions distributor for a wide variety of peacekeeping and humanitarian activities. Wholly-owned SYNDICATE, Inc. subsidiary brand/s include ENTERPRISE, Corp., (NYSE: ESC), which provides opportunities for growth, development, and outreach for exceptional candidates throughout the globe, The Dead Rabbits, a noted firm specializing in the recruitment and maintenance of cults. 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Popular Post Krampus Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Yzard said: Remember when BW and CB went to war with Oasis and MInc for forming a treaty between their spheres? Does the BW side of Celestial care to comment on that now? "Not Quite" 5 5 Quote Inform Zigbir I have forgotten how to edit the signature field Please remind me how to do it post haste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kyubnyan said: Smh tbh no one pointing out the real issue… the lack of every single sphere member gov’s signatures. Morf bad. That's good, means it ain't official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Puns Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Insert Name Here said: Being an HW member I'm the 1st to say there's a foul stench of pixel huggery coming from this. Guys someone contact ONN, we’ve got a guy here that disagrees with his leadership! Quote 22:26 +Kadin: too far man 22:26 +Kadin: too far 22:26 Lordofpuns[boC]: that's the point of incest Kadin 22:26 Lordofpuns[boC]: to go farther 22:27 Bet: or father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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