Popular Post Evlar Ball Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) We did not want to comment on the cancellation, but your post is deliberately misleading and demands a response. When you invited us to create a sphere, we were offered a “partnership” and a leading role that we would use to promote our own security. In hindsight, you lied to us and disregarded our input and your obligations to us. We asked you to leave Oasis on good-terms and with proper notice and instead you blindsided them. We asked you to remain quiet with us until the dust settled and instead you went on Thalmor Radio and declared you no longer wished to be a competitive alliance, that your diplomats were untrained, and that all your recent treaties and cancellations were mistakes. You publicly expressed, in no uncertain terms, that we are an undesirable ally just as you have done today. We forgave that and many other political blunders and worked tirelessly with you to restore your reputation. All we asked for was a fraction of the respect we had given you. You ignored your obligations to us and began adding new members to the sphere without consulting us, all of which you informed us were actively hostile to us. We did not focus on the enemies of the past, we agreed to let bygones be bygones, it was you that told us they were still hostile! This treaty ultimately concluded because rather than be neutral or mediate you decided to threaten us with war. They attempted to force us to surrender and accept unfair peace-terms which included 2.5 billion and then 5 billion in ransom for Winter alliance, reparations, censorship, and a public apology on the Orbis World Forums which you agreed with them. We didn't agree to these terms and instead paid a small reparation for the damage we did, and we made a private apology to preserve the sphere in return for the deletion of Winter. Yesterday, Eriko suggested we should maintain our treaty with you for the duration of the global war and sometime after until we could find new allies. Camelot agreed to this, and we considered it an inviolable diplomatic promise. We have learned over the course of our treaty with you that your promises mean very little and so we were bothered but ultimately not surprised when you broke it today by issuing this cancellation. We once more apologize for participating in this conflict but remind you that it was your political decisions that led to it. If we were to offer any parting advice, consult your allies before signing new treaties! We wish you the best with your new venture and hope relations will improve when you gain some more experience. Hopefully this sets the record straight. We ultimately have no ill will towards you and look forward to continuing to interact with you and other alliances in this great community. Signed, Evlar - FA Epi - King Edited January 26, 2022 by Evlamica Fixed a grammar, clarified 15 15 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Annayah Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Evlamica said: -snip- Based Good luck moving forward. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevanovia Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: We did not want to comment on the cancellation, but your post is deliberately misleading and demands a response. When you invited us to create a sphere, we were offered a “partnership” and a leading role that we would use to promote our own security. I see Epi has done a wonderful job in teaching the art of "making things up". 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: In hindsight, you lied to us and disregarded our input and your obligations to us. We asked you to leave Oasis on good-terms and with proper notice and instead you blindsided them. We asked you to remain quiet with us until the dust settled and instead you went on Thalmor Radio and declared you no longer wished to be a competitive alliance, that your diplomats were untrained, and that all your recent treaties and cancellations were mistakes. You publicly expressed, in no uncertain terms, that we are an undesirable ally just as you have done today. I think you got that backwards. Epi was the one originally taking a dump on TFP on Thalmor Radio, not the other way around. I believe Killzbob has the recording if you would like to listen. 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: We forgave that and many other political blunders and worked tirelessly with you to restore your reputation. Ah, that explains TFP's more recent blunders. You guys were trying to give them advice. Pro tip: next time try working on Camelot's reputation first. 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: This treaty ultimately concluded because rather than be neutral or mediate you decided to threaten us with war. Actually, no. The treaty ended because TFP gave you 72hours. For you to frame it as you giving them 72hours is hilarious and continues the trend of "making things up" 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: They attempted to force us to surrender and accept unfair peace-terms which included 2.5 billion and then 5 billion in ransom for Winter alliance, reparations, censorship, and a public apology on the Orbis World Forums which you agreed with them. We paid a small reparation for the damage we did, and we made a private apology to preserve the sphere in return for the deletion of Winter. Okay, I laughed at this one. Camelot hit Thunderstruck. Prior to hitting Thunderstruck, Cam came to Thunderstruck and demaded the Winter AA. Uriah told Epi that he would let it go for 2.5 billion. Soon after, Cam blitzed Thunderstruck. The ask that you pay reps/give an apology came only after you guys did the boneheaded hit and showed Orbis that once again, Camelot is among the worst ever alliances and among the most dishonorable. On top of this, you also asked for this not to be discussed outside of the sphere. You were the one to break your own agreement you set by going into RON and attempting to lie about what happened. So again, thank you for the chuckle. 1 hour ago, Evlamica said: Yesterday, Eriko suggested we should maintain our treaty with you for the duration of the global war and sometime after until we could find new allies. Camelot agreed to this, and we considered it an inviolable diplomatic promise. We have learned over the course of our treaty with you that your promises mean very little and so we were bothered but ultimately not surprised when you broke it today by issuing this cancellation. We once more apologize for participating in this conflict but remind you that it was your political decisions that led to it. If we were to offer any parting advice, consult your allies before signing new treaties! We wish you the best with your new venture and hope relations will improve when you gain some more experience. Hopefully this sets the record straight. We ultimately have no ill will towards you and look forward to continuing to interact with you and other alliances in this great community. Signed, Evlar - FA Epi - King If this wasn't Camelot posting, I would be absolutely flabbergasted by how far from the truth this thread was. Most of the accusations you made are boldfaced lies and were things Camelot were doing to Thunderstruck/TFP rather than the things you are trying to pin on them. TFP has made their fair share of mistakes, but dropping you was not one of them. 2 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hidude45454 Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 Alas, as much as the puny Camelot may thrash they cannot threaten the strength and resiliency of TFP and The Johnsons. For the Johnsons word is always good and true, and wicked intentions shall not hurt its holy name 🙏 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraj Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 👀 Playing the victim hard here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugosal Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Deraj said: 👀 Playing the victim hard here. This is why I don’t go to Camelot tis a silly place 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillzBob Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Evlamica said: peace-terms which included 2.5 billion and then 5 billion in ransom for Winter alliance then not even 3 hours epi is on Ron talking about this. Epi attacked us for nothing more then a 4 digit aa. Think about that Edited January 26, 2022 by KillzBob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, KillzBob said: Epi attacked us for nothing more then a 4 digit aa Have your tried being a 3 digit alliance? 6 Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post namukara Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 Seriously people? This has been up on the forums for six hours, posted by Camelot and nobody has said it yet? Fine I guess I'll do it. Disband 2 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, hidude45454 said: Alas, as much as the puny Camelot may thrash they cannot threaten the strength and resiliency of TFP and The Johnsons. For the Johnsons word is always good and true, and wicked intentions shall not hurt its holy name 🙏 Minus that time they accused Ockey of doing something wrong. Quote FORMER LEADER OF COTL. PLEASE GROW INTERNALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_wall Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (Bookmarked for the 2022 worst fa award) 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RightHonorable Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Grey_wall said: (Bookmarked for the 2022 worst fa award) There's still plenty of year left where Cam can find new and innovative ways to beclown themselves 3 Quote Haatyc or'arue jate'shya ori'sol aru'ike nuhaatyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Remember the time Cam hit Gato then backed down when told to stop? Yeah this was dumber than that.. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Jeric said: Remember the time Cam hit Gato then backed down when told to stop? Yeah this was dumber than that.. no, but ill ask greywall about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Horsecock Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) @Incitatus' and @KillzBob's posts might make Camelot look worse, but they don't make TFP look any better or refute any of the points directed at TFP. It's clear to see that both alliances are in terrible shape these days. Edited January 26, 2022 by Horsecock 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Horsecock said: @Incitatus' and @KillzBob's posts might make Camelot look worse, but they don't make TFP look any better or refute any of the points directed at TFP. It's clear to see that both alliances are in terrible shape these days. Agreed. TFP has work to do. The silver lining is that TFP made the correct choice in cutting Cam. Hopefully it’s the jumping off point to some positive changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaHD Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Kevanovia said: Agreed. TFP has work to do. The silver lining is that TFP made the correct choice in cutting Cam. Hopefully it’s the jumping off point to some positive changes. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natonito Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Divorces, sadly, are often messy affairs with a lot of broken promises and people imagining things to have been different than they were so that one can feel better going forward. Sometimes, even, people reflect on their mistakes and learn some good lessons to make their lives better going forward. I hope that happens here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaHD Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 At this point, Camelot is a laughingstock, That's what happens when you don't listen to me, tfp, or anyone else for that matter epi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr James Wilson Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 You're all idiots. 1 4 Quote The Volleyball Avanti Immortali ..one, two, Jimmy's coming for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Evlar Ball Posted January 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 We hope Kev's ardent defence of TFP, albeit mistaken and misinformed, will change the perspectives of those in their government and leadership. Whilst he has not been kind to us we ask you treat him and your new allies with the respect we wish you had for us. Leaking serves no one and we hope this deters you from stooping that low again. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevanovia Posted January 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Evlamica said: We hope Kev's ardent defence of TFP, albeit mistaken and misinformed, will change the perspectives of those in their government and leadership. Whilst he has not been kind to us we ask you treat him and your new allies with the respect we wish you had for us. Leaking serves no one and we hope this deters you from stooping that low again. These are clearly doctored. Eriko has a wonderful track record and stands by his allies through thick or thin. How dare you fake screenshots of The Johnsons. Oblivion did nothing wrong and Erik is a sweetheart. #JusticeForOckey #ClearEriko. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Uriah 'the Fox' Posted January 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namukara Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just to add here, if the stuff about TFP adding people to the sphere without consulting the rest of it is actually true then there's a chance it could blow up with alliances who people are far less likely to laugh at than Camelot. Not consulting allies is a pretty dangerous FA road to go down. So yeah...don't do that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audon Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Boo-hoo! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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