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We're never going to change from a 2 party system. Even in a multiparty system, there are really only 2 sides -- the different parties form coalitions to operate government because no single party has a majority, but because of the constant changing of coalitions they really have a less stable government.

 

All that said, I think we need a few common sense changes to our government. First, campaign finance reform will stop outside influencing buying out our politicians. Second, we need an approval voting system where you can vote for more than one candidate in each election. Obviously, if you voted for both the R and D candidate your vote essentially wouldn't count, but if you voted for the R candidate and the more moderate but conservative independent as well, there's a chance that the 3rd party or independent could win the election without splitting the vote and causing the D candidate to win, etc. Third, we need to end the gerrymandering of districts.

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Actually, it's possible to bypass Congress to amend the Constitution. It's just really hard.

Yes, it is very hard.  It has been done... once?

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To correct what I said before, all 27 amendments have been proposed through Congress, but once it is proposed Congress can choose between two methods of ratifying it.  I believe one amendment was proposed by Congress, but not ratified through the state legislatures.  It's hard to find which one that is, though.  And of course, I might be wrong.

 

EDIT: Found it.  It was the repeal of Prohibition.  21st amendment.

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Yes that's correct. All 27 amendments that have been ratified were originally proposed by Congress.

 

But the Constitution allows another method for proposing amendments: it's just never been used. 3/4 of state legislatures could call for a constitutional convention.

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Yes that's correct. All 27 amendments that have been ratified were originally proposed by Congress.

 

But the Constitution allows another method for proposing amendments: it's just never been used. 3/4 of state legislatures could call for a constitutional convention.

 

There's a number of organizations seeking to propose an amendment this way, and it's how many amendments have started originally. The 17th amendment was like 1 or 2 calls away from a convention being held to propose the amendment, so Congress decided just to do it themselves.

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For the next two years you will hear "Why wont our Liberal President sign in these conservative bills!", expect this to be a 1 law at a time congress, with only agreements from both parties ever getting through.

You will hear that and the funny thing is. The so called "Liberal President" will be signing laws that are conversative in nature, and vetoing crazy laws that would be horrible for Americans.  Also, the so called conversative laws will not be so good.

 

It's almost like the democrats where paid to be losers.  You know the red state Missouri had a ballot measure that would raise the min. wage.  It pasted with 70% of the vote while all or almost all the Republican canidates for congress/senate won.  Why is this you may ask?  Well the democrats in that state wouldn't even say their position on min wage and Republicans would go around hinting that they may want to increase min wage.  As I say, Democrats are paid to lose while progressive ideas in America are more popular than conservative ideas

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