Popular Post Dream Posted October 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) I don't expect many people to know but on the nation edit page, Aqua trade bloc being "alphabetically" is the first choice to select your trade bloc and is hence, more likely to be preferred by new players over the other blocs if they do not end up joining an alliance. Well, its a public fact that you cannot play the game without an alliance, the result being these nations tend to go inactive pretty much immediately after they are created. We're talking about C1s here, beginners who make close to nothing and just stop playing; a horde of inactive nations just on one single bloc, Aqua. At this instant out of a 160 active nations in none 50 out them are on aqua. Literally one third of them one a single trade bloc which is more than 1/4th of the nations on the bloc itself..... We have 1/4th of the bloc as inactive which makes nothing but only drags down the bonus drastically. Now, one can make an argument here that the nations are automatically moved to gray after 5 days on inactivity. Yes, that's true although, this is a constant cycle of nations being created. So no matter what, this has been the case for a very long time. Whatever is done, it's just literally impossible to have a decent bonus with a fourth of the bloc that makes absolutely nothing. It is also unfair to the bloc itself. Red; the bloc with the most nations has only 21 people in no alliances and is more than twice the size of Aqua. Lime with more than 300 people has 6 people in None. I have checked every bloc and none of them has even close to as many inactives to that on Aqua. Which is why I suggest that the color trade bloc selection should be randomised. There is no use to have it alphabetically in the first place because we have custom names for the blocs now. Also, we're talking about 150-160 nations distributed over 14 blocs. Its like 12-15 per bloc, it hurts no one. That's the best solution I could come up with, its fair and makes sure everyone has a chance to improve their bonus. If you have a better one do comment on this thread. Thank you for reading~ Edited October 8, 2021 by Dream Spelling 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggeremid Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 This will level the playing field. Even though the colour bonus might seem insignificant to some people in the long run it can amount to a hefty amount of cash both for nations and the alliance and that means people playing the game that are on aqua are losing cash that could actually be used instead of going to nations that will most likely never be touched again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maks Maximmillian Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Would the randomization be the same all the time? Or would it randomize every time it’s opened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, tree said: Why don't you just hit players who are on aqua when they aren't meant to be like how the syndicate does with players that are on green Because there are 60 of em between 10 and 200 score??? Does T$ do that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Maks Maximmillian said: Would the randomization be the same all the time? Or would it randomize every time it’s opened? Randomised every time its opened 4 hours ago, tree said: Why don't you just hit players who are on aqua when they aren't meant to be like how the syndicate does with players that are on green "Inactive C1s who don't play" What will we get by hitting them, if we're able to. Most of them wouldn't be in range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 9:11 PM, tree said: Thats why they have e$ to hit the players who aren't in range of T$ Does E$ have a lot of people in the 10-200 range??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted October 13, 2021 Wiki Mod Share Posted October 13, 2021 UI should never be randomized, the proposed solution makes the game objectively worse for everyone to benefit a small portion of the player base. That being said, I can certainly see the issue. A better fix though would be applying outlier exclusion to the math behind the scenes. Such as tossing out <c5s and inactives 2 Quote 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 If this is such a huge problem for you, leave aqua, eventually what will happen is the pop in aqua will get low enough that it may actually make sense for a larger alliance to jump in there and see a drastic jump in color bonus. I know we had a time when we were jumping around to a few different colors trying to find the one that was best for us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Dr Rush said: UI should never be randomized, the proposed solution makes the game objectively worse for everyone to benefit a small portion of the player base. That being said, I can certainly see the issue. A better fix though would be applying outlier exclusion to the math behind the scenes. Such as tossing out <c5s and inactives Yeah that'd make more sense 10 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said: If this is such a huge problem for you, leave aqua, eventually what will happen is the pop in aqua will get low enough that it may actually make sense for a larger alliance to jump in there and see a drastic jump in color bonus. I know we had a time when we were jumping around to a few different colors trying to find the one that was best for us. You're probably right about that. With Alex wanting to advertise the game on yt, we'll have like some 100-200 nubs on aqua again. I was just looking to fix this issue for good, so if the changes in math could help that's great if it doesn't then well, we can't do much about it either 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindaEpicMoah Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I think the clear fix would be to remove the impact nations not in an alliance have upon the color bloc income, as well as removing the color bloc bonus for alliance-less nations (besides beige). I understand that low tier color purging is a good way to train your new members so some may disagree with it (plus it shows that you're actually working for the bonus), but I don't see any other negatives to this being implemented, as joining an alliance is basically a defacto rule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammad Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 why not just add [Choose a Color Bloc] as the first choice on the list? That way, if they dont click on anything, they arent automaticly put in Aqua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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