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On 9/13/2021 at 5:38 PM, Daveth said:

What other ex-Camelot/IQ members would you like us to look into? 

Are you guys fricking serous?! There are still plenty of those alliances around today but most of the old guard is gone.

Ex-IQ includes:

Black Knights

The Commonwealth 

United Purple Nations 

Carthago

Camelot

Polaris

Goon Squad 

Order of the White Rose 

The Syndicate

House Stark 

Church of Atom 

The Fighting Pacifists

Alpha

The United Armies

United Socialist Nations

Dark Brotherhood

Strickland Propane

Reference Link: https://politicsandwar.fandom.com/wiki/NPO's_Last_Time

Actually, still quite a few of the old guard is around, w/ heavy influence still in a selection of them. What's even worse is this basically prove y'all at Backwater are hella hypocrites for saying you want revenge when most of you took part for quite a while supporting IQ. Yes I understand you guys dropped out then got brought in by your ex allies attacking you. Although their are elephants in the room of Blackwater whom are Carth & OWR who fought one side though peacing as well treaty changes. Other aa's that also stuck through on IQ even with peace include: BK, UPN, Polar, GS, Alpha, USN, DB, & SP.

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3 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

Are you guys fv¢kiπg serous?! There are still plenty of those alliances around today but most of the old guard is gone.

Ex-IQ includes:

Black Knights

The Commonwealth 

United Purple Nations 

Carthago

Camelot

Polaris

Goon Squad 

Order of the White Rose 

The Syndicate

House Stark 

Church of Atom 

The Fighting Pacifists

Alpha

The United Armies

United Socialist Nations

Dark Brotherhood

Strickland Propane

Reference Link: https://politicsandwar.fandom.com/wiki/NPO's_Last_Time

Actually, still quite a few of the old guard is around, w/ heavy influence still in a selection of them. What's even worse is this basically prove y'all at Backwater are hella hypocrites for saying you want revenge when most of you took part for quite a while supporting IQ. Yes I understand you guys dropped out then got brought in by your ex allies attacking you. Although their are elephants in the room of Blackwater whom are Carth & OWR who fought one side though peacing as well treaty changes. Other aa's that also stuck through on IQ even with peace include: BK, UPN, Polar, GS, Alpha, USN, DB, & SP.

Nobody mention Golden Phoenix Coalition (Prima Victoria) as IQ. I still need time to plan my rolling of the game.

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2 hours ago, Sval said:

I was going to go after CTO, until I remembered I'm already hitting that.

At least it's nice to hear OWR owning up to themselves, although rejecting history will only lead to repeats of it. For example, what Carth called upon as CB to Cam alongside Nexus dogpiling Cam. We all got a head (some more or less mentally challenged), use what you got at your disposable or face consequences.

 

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13 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

Are you guys fv¢kiπg serous?! There are still plenty of those alliances around today but most of the old guard is gone.

Ex-IQ includes:

Black Knights

The Commonwealth 

United Purple Nations 

Carthago

Camelot

Polaris

Goon Squad 

Order of the White Rose 

The Syndicate

House Stark 

Church of Atom 

The Fighting Pacifists

Alpha

The United Armies

United Socialist Nations

Dark Brotherhood

Strickland Propane

Reference Link: https://politicsandwar.fandom.com/wiki/NPO's_Last_Time

Actually, still quite a few of the old guard is around, w/ heavy influence still in a selection of them. What's even worse is this basically prove y'all at Backwater are hella hypocrites for saying you want revenge when most of you took part for quite a while supporting IQ. Yes I understand you guys dropped out then got brought in by your ex allies attacking you. Although their are elephants in the room of Blackwater whom are Carth & OWR who fought one side though peacing as well treaty changes. Other aa's that also stuck through on IQ even with peace include: BK, UPN, Polar, GS, Alpha, USN, DB, & SP.

How were tS, HS and a bunch of other alliances IQ? Did you even bother reading the wiki?

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7 hours ago, Bollocks said:

How were tS, HS and a bunch of other alliances IQ? Did you even bother reading the wiki?

I took 2 hours to go through the wiki, take notes, then whittle down to my conclusion. I obviously above listed all alliances that were allied plus fighting alongside IQ during NPOLT that are still around today. Then after reading through how the war went, I weeded out the one's that peaced but never switched fighting sides (All bolded aa's never truly switched sides, some went neutral at best that switched allies, but never joined the battle again). 

You guys in BW can't deny that you guys still fought for a long stretch with heavy influence besides IQ. Majority of you were able to seek out peace but then got back stabbed, which only Carth & OWR by forum & wiki never rejoined on the premise against IQ (chose to stay neutral which has it's suspicions on why since it's technically unknown to most why).

 

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I even was considerate enough to post the related link. Let me also add in ppl can back track aa even personal history.
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16 hours ago, Bollocks said:

How were tS, HS and a bunch of other alliances IQ? Did you even bother reading the wiki?

NPO and t$ we’re tied together with their own sphere called N$O and this lasted till late November 2019. NPOLT started in June 2019 and lasted till February 2020. t$ briefly was apart of Coalition B when they blitzed Grumpy and Guardian. The big reason N$O ended was because BK sphere (which CTO had a connection through citadel) blitzed T$ and NPO failed to respond to it in timely manner. If BK never hit t$ or NPO responded with counters against BK (that would of been quite interesting ngl) then N$O would of stayed around for a bit longer. So while saying it hurts my soul, Firwof is actually correct about those alliances having IQ ties.

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20 hours ago, Firwof Kromwell said:

OWR own them elves, ejecting ill peats ample as a more mental us at your posable face.

Well, you've got a point there.

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On 9/18/2021 at 1:34 AM, Flavee said:

Did you even bother reading this thread?

What? I’m legitimately confounded about how dumb you are

21 hours ago, MinesomeMC said:

NPO and t$ we’re tied together with their own sphere called N$O and this lasted till late November 2019. NPOLT started in June 2019 and lasted till February 2020. t$ briefly was apart of Coalition B when they blitzed Grumpy and Guardian. The big reason N$O ended was because BK sphere (which CTO had a connection through citadel) blitzed T$ and NPO failed to respond to it in timely manner. If BK never hit t$ or NPO responded with counters against BK (that would of been quite interesting ngl) then N$O would of stayed around for a bit longer. So while saying it hurts my soul, Firwof is actually correct about those alliances having IQ ties.

That was a long ass winded way of saying that most of those alliances were never part of IQ

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3 hours ago, Bollocks said:

What? I’m legitimately confounded about how dumb you are

That was a long ass winded way of saying that most of those alliances were never part of IQ

t$ was an NPO ally, CTO was tied to BK, Camelot was tied to BK, TCW was tied to BK, OWR was tied to BK, etc.

Here's the list of all Coalition B members, (doesnt matter if they switched sides later on, TCW did too and still got rolled)

  • New Pacific Order
  • Black Knights
  • Guardian of the Galaxy
  • GOONs
  • The CommonWealth
  • Frontier Records (Now Ampersand)
  • Acadia
  • United Purple Nations
  • Afrika Korps
  • Solar Knights
  • Carthago
  • Yakuza
  • Guinea Pig Whaling Corp
  • Camelot
  • Polaris
  • Horsemen
  • Brotherhood of the Clouds
  • Golden Phoenix Coalition (Now Prima Victoria)
  • Electric Space
  • The Hanseatic League (Now apart of The Lost Empire)
  • Goon Squad
  • Hyperborea 
  • Order of the White Rose
  • Orange Defense Network
  • Animation Domination
  • The United Empire of Zah'Aharon 
  • The Syndicate
  • House Stark 
  • Church Of Atom
  • Code of Honor 
  • The Fighting Pacifists
  • Alpha
  • Mythic
  • Kazoku
  • Commerce Union
  • Elite Democratic Republic (Now Error 404/Cataclysm
  • The United Armies
  • The United States of America
  • Order of the Fallen Angels (Now Soldiers of Liberty, i believe or whatever AHCH/Amon runs now)
  • IronFront
  • United Socialist Nations
  • The Coal Mines (Now Sunray 1-1)
  • Dark Brotherhood
  • Strickland Propane
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Just now, MinesomeMC said:

t$ was an NPO ally, CTO was tied to BK, Camelot was tied to BK, TCW was tied to BK, OWR was tied to BK, etc.

Here's the list of all Coalition B members, (doesnt matter if they switched sides later on, TCW did too and still got rolled)

  • New Pacific Order
  • Black Knights
  • Guardian of the Galaxy
  • GOONs
  • The CommonWealth
  • Frontier Records (Now Ampersand)
  • Acadia
  • United Purple Nations
  • Afrika Korps
  • Solar Knights
  • Carthago
  • Yakuza
  • Guinea Pig Whaling Corp
  • Camelot
  • Polaris
  • Horsemen
  • Brotherhood of the Clouds
  • Golden Phoenix Coalition (Now Prima Victoria)
  • Electric Space
  • The Hanseatic League (Now apart of The Lost Empire)
  • Goon Squad
  • Hyperborea 
  • Order of the White Rose
  • Orange Defense Network
  • Animation Domination
  • The United Empire of Zah'Aharon 
  • The Syndicate
  • House Stark 
  • Church Of Atom
  • Code of Honor 
  • The Fighting Pacifists
  • Alpha
  • Mythic
  • Kazoku
  • Commerce Union
  • Elite Democratic Republic (Now Error 404/Cataclysm
  • The United Armies
  • The United States of America
  • Order of the Fallen Angels (Now Soldiers of Liberty, i believe or whatever AHCH/Amon runs now)
  • IronFront
  • United Socialist Nations
  • The Coal Mines (Now Sunray 1-1)
  • Dark Brotherhood
  • Strickland Propane

Being allied at one point to a member of IQ =/= being a part of IQ. 

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12 minutes ago, Bollocks said:

Being allied at one point to a member of IQ =/= being a part of IQ. 

The List is specifically members who partook in NPOLT on the side of Coalition B for any duration. Its not that hard to read man. 

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1 hour ago, MinesomeMC said:

The List is specifically members who partook in NPOLT on the side of Coalition B for any duration. Its not that hard to read man. 

Precisely - the original discussion is about looking for alliances who were a part of IQ. It’s not that hard to read man

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1 hour ago, Bollocks said:

Precisely - the original discussion is about looking for alliances who were a part of IQ. It’s not that hard to read man

Coalition B is what we refer to as NeoIQ. 

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24 minutes ago, MinesomeMC said:

Coalition B is what we refer to as NeoIQ. 

Coalition B isn't IQ. IQ is BK/NPO/GoG (+ GOONS which made OD later). T$ and a shitton of other alliances (way too many) were part of Coalition B but were never part of IQ. In t$'s case, it was only during like 2 weeks at very beginning of gw14.

gw14 lasted 8 months because of IQ/OD and only IQ/OD is to blame for that, it's in no way because of Coalition B.
At the very best, you can also blame alliances who fought for OD until the very end (Polaris, UPN, Camelot etc) which had some of their leaders (presumably people like Malal, TheNG ...) who were aware of OD plans. So tbh i'm not sure what narrative you're trying to spin here.

Honestly, many alliances would have considered allying NPO pre-gw14 when NPO and BK ""splitted"", you can't blame t$ for doing it and ending up in that awkward situation during gw14.

 

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3 hours ago, MinesomeMC said:

TCW did too and still got rolled

TCW still got rolled because they only switched for self-serving reasons after 8 months of war, pissed everyone off during the process, and continued to do so during the NAP. Were you aware that even as they were switching sides, they were still trying to leverage terms on Coalition A? So, no, the how and why of when people switched matters, as does what they've done since.

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45 minutes ago, Pascal said:



Honestly, many alliances would have considered allying NPO pre-gw14 when NPO and BK ""splitted"", you can't blame t$ for doing it and ending up in that awkward situation during gw14.
 

ye i can, i already blame them for all my problems

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