Popular Post Alan Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 **Warning - This post is about Black Skies. Do not read this if you don't care.** Black Skies is stuck between a rock and a hard place. And the entire thing smells. After being pulled into the Hollywood/Bollywood war (of which we weren't even a part of Hollywood after TLE told us to leave) we fought for a good 3/4 rounds and then found peace. Many of you might not even know about that as instead of getting a post about it we were placed as a reply in United Ummah's thread. Focusing on our rebuild we were then informed that RIE/DR had blitzed both 770 and Sanctuary. This led us to a problem. While we were not hit in the strike we knew, at some point we'd have to get involved to support our allies. We ramped up our MMR to be able to recruit at a faster pace. After all Carthago already beat the shit out of us by down declaring (C28s hitting a C20 hurts) and so most of our folks were zeroed across the board. Now after beginning to try and even reach where we were at peacetime (3/0/5/1 however some stayed at 5/2/5/2 due to a Rose applicant that hit two of us) we got slammed by OWR and Carthago. Please note this was when the alliance had just passed 50% aircraft (Credit to Sval for providing the image): We are not a threat to anyone. Period. Most alliances would be very happy in just smacking us because they can. However at a point in time where our Military wasn't even at our peacetime MMR we got smacked again. After discussions with OWR Sval responded: However wars then were declared on people that were following the MMR like iuma who was following the 3/0/5/1 Peacetime MMR (he's since switched to 5/0/5/1 after being hit). Boom our head of FA went to Daveth about the situation. Surely Nexus/Bollywood would allow ourselves to defend an ally or at the very least not attack people following the MMR...... So this is where we stand. Nexus won't back down unless we negotiate new terms to assist our allies. Nexus also isn't willing to negotiate terms to help our allies. So (and this is going to be the strangest and worst DoW I've ever seen)....... Tl;DR - Black Skies declares war to help their allies, Sanctuary and Lazarus 770, against RIE and Dawn Rising. Black Skies will not be countering, declaring new wars or committing spy-ops for damage against NEXUS/Bollywood membership as they continue to down declare on us and wipe us to 0 again. Sanctuary and Lazarus 770 will not be countering or assisting Black Skies members being hit by NEXUS/Bollywood members. Alright Minesome...This is probably AlanFall 2.0 9 9 Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveyJ Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 anyway gl;hf 13 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Welcome Back Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosta Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Hang in there Black Skies. I am sure you guys will succeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sorra Himguard Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, Kosta said: Hang in there Black Skies. I am sure you guys will succeed. I highly doubt that for a moment. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cpt Crunch Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 You forgot the part where you ghost into sanctuary to hide from Rosewater. 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorra Himguard Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, Cpt Crunch said: You forgot the part where you ghost into sanctuary to hide from Rosewater. This tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, Cpt Crunch said: You forgot the part where you ghost into sanctuary to hide from Rosewater. Our last "Hail Mary". Members on the MMR 3/0/5/1 that physically can't fight will remain in Black Skies. However since Nexus just hit anyone that was within range regardless of MMR then it's clear that this desperate move didn't work. 9 Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Young Guilo said: Our last "Hail Mary". Members on the MMR 3/0/5/1 that physically can't fight will remain in Black Skies. However since Nexus just hit anyone that was within range regardless of MMR then it's clear that this desperate move didn't work. lmfao just go ahead and reneg with the fam bam and you gonna be gucci. I'll help get your ass bankrolled for this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Crunch Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: Our last "Hail Mary". Members on the MMR 3/0/5/1 that physically can't fight will remain in Black Skies. However since Nexus just hit anyone that was within range regardless of MMR then it's clear that this desperate move didn't work. If I remember correctly the treaty stated Black Skies had to stay on 3/05/1 correct? That would include all members. So given that any of your members went above that is a direct violation of the surrender? Innit? One thing to learn is that it's very hard to negotiate with macros when you have zero leverage to bring to the table. This was inevitable and you know it. Running from it is very dishonorable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cpt Crunch said: If I remember correctly the treaty stated Black Skies had to stay on 3/05/1 correct? That would include all members. So given that any of your members went above that is a direct violation of the surrender? Innit? One thing to learn is that it's very hard to negotiate with macros when you have zero leverage to bring to the table. This was inevitable and you know it. Running from it is very dishonorable. Everyone is acting like we were trying to be sneaky about it. Our moves were sent straight to RON and everyone could see exactly what we were doing. Working within Sanctuary and assisting them where we can was probably going to happen regardless. It's just since Nexus/Bollywood hit us it's "ghosting" rather than reinforcements. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzard Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Young Guilo said: After being pulled into the Hollywood/Bollywood war Didn't you post a RoH? If you just countered CTO rather than made a forum post you wouldn't have been "dragged in" You probably would have been fine if you negotiated the treaty before you armed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Crunch Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: Everyone is acting like we were trying to be sneaky about it. Our moves were sent straight to RON and everyone could see exactly what we were doing. Working within Sanctuary and assisting them where we can was probably going to happen regardless. It's just since Nexus/Bollywood hit us it's "ghosting" rather than reinforcements. Reinforcements would be if you stayed in the same alliance, so joining sanctuary is ghosting. So if anything you've now put a bigger target on sanctuary's back more than anything because it's very likely Rosewater will follow you to sanctuary. So now you have only made the demise of the whole bloc faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryken Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I'm such a badass, I read even though I don't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pants Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 How nice of you to include a disclaimer at the beginning 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hidude45454 Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Yzard said: Didn't you post a RoH? If you just countered CTO rather than made a forum post you wouldn't have been "dragged in" You probably would have been fine if you negotiated the treaty before you armed up imma be brutally honest here and probably earn myself some downvotes: even if there was some better communication, ppl love to hate on BS so much that they'd probably hit them and not care regardless. That and CTO will probably hit every organism that breathes at this point when they can't find ppl to statpad off of in the global. I do think that a lot of issues that befall BS originate from some mixture of unfounded pride and defeatism translating into self-fulfilling prophecy, and that their choice of allies is, let's just say... questionable, but I will at the least not hesitate to give props that they are at least willing to defend their allies, which most alliances honestly cannot say. Edited September 3, 2021 by hidude45454 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_wall Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (Sees Black Skies ghost on another AA to bypass peace terms) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicPepper Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, hidude45454 said: imma be brutally honest here and probably earn myself some downvotes: even if there was some better communication, ppl love to hate on BS so much that they'd probably hit them and not care regardless. That and CTO will probably hit every organism that breathes at this point when they can't find ppl to statpad off of in the global. I do think that a lot of issues that befall BS originate from some mixture of unfounded pride and defeatism translating into self-fulfilling prophecy, and that their choice of allies is, let's just say... questionable, but I will at the least not hesitate to give props that they are at least willing to defend their allies, which most alliances honestly cannot say. Most alliances aren't willing to defend their allies? What? This is news to me. Also it's not like people "love to hate on BS" without reason. There's a reason BS is not liked. With most alliances they do FA with they are extremely difficult to deal with and in most cases illogical in their FA. Edited September 3, 2021 by ToxicPepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 should of just discussed it with Nexus and RoseWater. Surely, theyd let you help your allies if you talked tot hem about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidude45454 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ToxicPepper said: Most alliances aren't willing to defend their allies? What? This is news to me. Sorry, misspoke. Most alliances at that range are not willing to help their allies. tO being slow with CC, all of Johnsons, most of Holy Sea, CoA with Alpha/Polaris, etc. Plus plenty of alliances that leave allies to deal with their own wars and so on, even more so when they know they'd take a lot of damages or lose. 1 hour ago, ToxicPepper said: Also it's not like people "love to hate on BS" without reason. There's a reason BS is not liked. With most alliances they do FA with they are extremely difficult to deal with and in most cases illogical in their FA. This is true, but -Noobs who have never dealt with BS before like to bandwagon on hate and blow it way out of proportion to look cool or something, idk -By their own admission CTO hit BS initially because they forgot BS got kicked out by TLE, so this never should've happened in the first place -idk why there needs to be a new negotiated agreement when allowing them to defend their allies would take like five seconds and two Discord messages Then again I don't do FA either so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vice Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 Alan, in your own words, you straight up accused me and fabricated a leak of signing SMC calling them bank heisters and scammers. Stating tfp condones having allies who took advantage of people. I couldn’t help but notice your 770 treaty these days. What is black skies vetting process? Does black skies condone working with and protecting known (and thalmoria convicted) bank and market scammers? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Vice said: (and thalmoria convicted) Lmfao I love this.@ThalmorRadio is now a place of credible court trials 😂 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKsplick Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Young Guilo said: we fought for a good 3/4 rounds Aren't we like on round 3/4? :kevin5: or did you mean 3/4 of a round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Man this thing reminds me of NPO-BK(coalition) kek-hitting people who peaced out. Guess old habits die hard lol. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Vice said: in your own words Congratulations on posting 2 sentences out of an entire conversation to give something out of context. I guess you're no longer new to the game. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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