Popular Post JadenStar10 Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Now, I'm just sick and tired. Here is the truth. In recent news, you may have heard about the forced removal of my position from the Independent Republic of Orange Nations by those who call themselves "The Council". I would like everyone to know the sacrifices I have made for IRON even before its formation. I have not built a city nor had any meaningful growth since October of last year, that is half a year without growth, all to finance this Alliance. I invested everything I owned, whether it be liquid assets, my resources, and my stocks into the Alliance. I single handedly ran 4 departments of government for the longest time due to high government incompetence, and recently from my removal, I single handedly ran IA, Econ, and Milcom. The High Government of IA, Econ, and Milcom have done close to nothing, leaving everything to me. I have been doing admissions, running our academy, writing our guides, buying, or finding/editing scripts and bots. Though I am not perfect and make some mistakes, I, ONE PERSON, have been single handedly running all of IRON. I make our grants, our guides, got us the protectorate, admissions, and frequently help EVERY single new member who has questions to the BEST of my ability with almost no one to assist me. I am the only one who keeps our IA membership lists updated, only one who checks in on nations, only one who talks to nations after they leave, asks for feedback, or certain repayments. I am the only one who makes builds for our entire alliance, and manages the entire command economy we have. The job I have is extremely stressful, but even more so with the lack of competency of certain high government, with doing close to nothing. Hideri Kanzaki, a retired highgov of FA, has done more than the current highgov of IA in IA matters because though she retired, she still gives a damn, and ironically the person who runs the department does not. Funnily enough, this is the same person that has replaced me, the person who has done NOTHING since day 1 of this alliance founding. I gave this Alliance my all, I put every sliver of time I had into it, because I managed everything, the Councillors of IA, Econ, and Milcom do not give a damn about their departments, and have done nothing since they have taken over. Now to address the documents of my removal, and, I am going to tell you that 90% of it is baloney. I admit to asking friends to start my Alliance with me, however, how can this be seen as poaching at all, is the council going to sit there and tell me that everyone that has made an alliance just started with 1 member and didn’t tell friends they were making a new alliance? Velyni is from TKR, Winston from E404, and MJ from Nuka, if they really believed it was poaching and wrong, why have they decided to join? Because they know the things they say is bullshit to retain power. Most current councillors weren't even councillors at the foundation. They don’t know all the hard work I did to set up all branches of government (which I continued to run anyway because the current Councillors did not do anything). To the statement of the “misrepresentation of IRON” is complete baloney, they are just sprinkling fluff in there to validate their coup of me. Unto their next statement of Council concerns. I have listened to council concerns, and have taken them all into account. If I had not, how has the Council been able to pass any decisions at all which I did not agree with, because in the end I recognized its sovereignty. Certain proposals that come to mind are the pursuing of treaties with certain Oasis sphere members (which was initially declined, though accepted much later), the establishment of a new discord separate from our community one, and the new grant plan I proposed. Though I have made mistakes whilst running the alliance, their appraisal is frankly false. I made certain changes in department functionality which they said needed to go through the council, however, please keep in mind that I am the ONLY person running these departments, as they have done nothing even with the guides and knowledge of doing it. Their concern was primarily over holding the vestiges of power and respect without doing anything to earn that respect. I always tried to be there for “needed” presence, keep in mind my needed presence also include real life and the departments they practically refused to run. I always prioritized Council discussions over “socializing” with members, so I can clearly say that that statement was a complete lie and is false, some would call it “complete bullshit”. Keep in mind they also pinged me while I was sleeping to talk to me, I'm guessing they’re taking me sleeping as ignoring them. I also can't be on the computer 24/7 as they would like me to, but I am there whenever I can be and have participated in EVERY. SINGLE. COUNCIL. DISCUSSION. SINCE. IRONS. FOUNDING Onto the Amarr incident. I reached out to a prot of Amarr for them to potentially merge into us, as they were a small AA with a leader that had no experience (was 13 days old last I checked). I offered them the standard deal that all members get when they join the alliance, which was $5 million. It would be a good way for the alliance to grow, and for me to invest comparatively small amounts of money into these low city counts to bring them way, way up. I admit I am at fault here for not reaching out to Velyni, and apparently the Amarr Empire thought of it as poaching. Previously to the merge offer, they were regarded as a protectorate of Amarr, however, immediately after offering the merge, Amarr FA bumbled over their words constantly, trying to convince us that the protectorate was actually a direct extension, and they literally TURNED it into a direct extension AS we were talking to make it seem like a poach, when they themselves has previously bumbled over their words and constantly referred to it as a protectorate. I truly am sorry to the Amarr Empire for the confusion caused by my offer to merge, however, I would like to clarify that offering a merge is not poaching. I admit I am not perfect and should have certainly talked to Velyni prior, which is why I truly am sorry for it, I am not a perfect human being, and I can recognize that. However, one misunderstanding is not warrantable of a coup of my position. How IRONic is it that the head of IA, the man who did nothing since he took that position, has come to replace me, and I would like to emphasize as I remain in the alliance, has CONTINUED to do nothing. Behold the peak of their incompetence, where they added every single inactive/VM member that I had applicanted, making up around 52% of their AA. This is my final statement, their coup of me was not valid, and full of bullshit. I recognize I made mistakes and I am not perfect, and for that I apologize, but I am truly and utterly disappointed that they falsified a document of me, blatantly lied. This same government that has done nothing, and continues to do nothing, has decided to replace me with the king of doing nothing. Edit: the "King of Doing Nothing" went into VM, again! He has been in VM for the majority of his time in IRON, and when he isnt, he is inactive, gets raided, gets looted, and doesn't listen to any milcom instructions. I can confidently say that really only Velyni, and MJ did their job. The only business I have left with the current gov't of IRON are my deposits. I'm tired now, I'm so tired of giving this Alliance my all and having my dedication stripped from me. I sacrificed alot, in game and irl for this AA. You, who are reading this, do not have to believe me. I know what happened, and my closest friends know what happened, and now, that's all I need. I needed to get the truth out, because I am so goddamn tired of the lies. Thanks to those who reached out to me for my well being, people who I realized are closer friends than those who I considered my close friends. Thanks @Allend of the union for keeping me in this game playing, I would have quit without him. Thanks @Thalmor, @Lossi, and @Rainbowgeist, for reaching out to me and making sure I was well. Thanks @Sunara for being there for me and defending me. Now I'm at a crossroads, unsure of what to do. I have no community to turn to nor go to. I'm just so tired. Perhaps I've had enough of Orbis politics, and BS for one lifetime. Edited March 30, 2021 by JadenStar10 23 6 4 4 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sval Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 My sympathies. I also recently went through a coup. They can be very taxing. 30 1 Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles The Great Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Meh..... Join Kt and seek revenge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsecock Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 This alliance really took off... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARPER.txt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 L o L 2 Quote -SAXON- -Warband Leader of the Nordic Sea Raiders- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrett Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJ Kate Bush Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 I want to say that OOC, I hope you are well and try not to let the game get you down too much, it's supposed to be fun. IC, try not to be so reckless in your alliance duties, you were haphazard in your time in TI and it seems also in IRON. If you give it another go, try to learn from your mistakes and I'm sure you'll be more successful in future. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelo Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfuze Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I hope you're doing alright Jaden, and you're always welcome over here. We enjoyed your company, you made us laugh, and you were really nice to us. Thanks for kicking around with us, we appreciate it. Godspeed Jaden 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanJazza Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 It's a shame, you seemed very competent. Take care, eh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewan Demontay Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Time to dissolve IRON. 3 Quote I exist, and so do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PurpleElefante Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 Hey Jaden, first of all I want to commend you on the post itself, grammar was almost completely on point and the writing actually had some structure lol. I’m just gonna say that I’ve also had a lot of burn out with helping run a smaller alliance, cuz man they’re way more work than they’re worth. From your conclusion, I’m getting the vibes that you’re planning or want to take a break from this junk for a bit, and you definitely should. Your mental health is much more important than this game. Stay safe ❤️ 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicPepper Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 You did a lot for IRON now take a break and come back when you feel you’re ready and try not to take up all the work of an alliance when you’re back, burn out is a real thing and doing everything and stressing about handling everything will get you burned out very fast. Remember, this is a game, you’re supposed to have fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear ArcticExplorer Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 You can't control many things on this game, and so many times things go wrong. Your finger slips and you leak your war chest, you send a screenshot to someone accidentally and it gets leaked, etc. This is of course just a game for that reason, RL always comes first. Most things on this game will fade out with time. Pixels will be burnt, and at some point it's quite possible that alliances will fall. It's all pixels, so make sure to not get super invested in something which could fail without knowing the consequences. You can go all in, but sometimes it's simply not worth it. I understand your feelings after you were removed from your post, so in whatever you do next or wherever you go, best of luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 ESQUIRE TEMPLAR LIBERATION FRONT ANNOUNCEMENT @JadenStar10 The Liberation Front has heard your prayers. An IRON FIST shall crush IRON. ETLF hereby recognizes hostilities with IRON May god have mercy on your souls. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammayed Hydid Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 join ET or die 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok8085 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Well boys, I think we have found a new micro to roll for fun. Anyone else wanna join in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Always demote inactive and incompetent government members. If they're not logging in, demoted. If they're not responding, demoted. If they're not doing their duties, demoted. If they're on vacation, demoted. If they're skipping wars, demoted. If they want to be free of 100% taxes, demoted. If they repeat talking points, demoted. If they correctly criticize your decisions, promote them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMichaelJordan Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I'll start off by saying, I appreciate the work Jaden has put on and without him we would have been all over the place. Second, I get that you're upset and I understand that you've made mistakes throughout your presidency and I get that, but there are many issues to take into account here. First off, I joined your alliance because I was going to leave Nuka World anyways. Also you say you're running IRON on your own, but you don't even let us in on whatever the !@#$ you're doing. You did not let Velyni, our High Gov FA, talk with Amarr about this. You did not mention WInston's life where he stated he was becoming busy. You forget that our Council all have work, with me as an exception, but you knew that already. You shittalk us but half of the things you've done were done without our knowledge. Many times, we've called you out for doing work without our knowledge. We work as a group, not as a one-man alliance. You did not mention a word about offering a merger, and I found about it when I woke up and saw Aurora talking about the mistakes you've done. Not me, your Vice President, or Velyni, the head of FA. And since I'm here, I'm the one who took 2 strikes for a recruitment script because your computer couldn't handle it. I'm the one who took out a loan so I could pay off my debts and join the alliance to help you. I'm the one who said porting IRON was a bad idea. " I can confidently say really only Velyni did his job." You do realize that our council are new to the game? You knew that and you brought them in. If you did not want to run everything like you actually wanted to, then let Velyni do his job. Let me take care of Winston's work while he is busy with IRL stuff. That's what I did. Don't run everything and not giving a single ounce of work to us then blame us for not doing our job. You are the one who pulled us into the KT war without even telling us. Even Aurora said we did not have to help, but you decided to jump in without even consulting the Council. That is my take on Jaden's call out which seemed pretty immature to say the least to post on the forums and say some shit that many people don't care about (looking at you ). 3 2 Quote too sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheRealMichaelJordan said: I'll start off by saying, I appreciate the work Jaden has put on and without him we would have been all over the place. Second, I get that you're upset and I understand that you've made mistakes throughout your presidency and I get that, but there are many issues to take into account here. First off, I joined your alliance because I was going to leave Nuka World anyways. Also you say you're running IRON on your own, but you don't even let us in on whatever the !@#$ you're doing. You did not let Velyni, our High Gov FA, talk with Amarr about this. You did not mention WInston's life where he stated he was becoming busy. You forget that our Council all have work, with me as an exception, but you knew that already. You shittalk us but half of the things you've done were done without our knowledge. Many times, we've called you out for doing work without our knowledge. We work as a group, not as a one-man alliance. You did not mention a word about offering a merger, and I found about it when I woke up and saw Aurora talking about the mistakes you've done. Not me, your Vice President, or Velyni, the head of FA. And since I'm here, I'm the one who took 2 strikes for a recruitment script because your computer couldn't handle it. I'm the one who took out a loan so I could pay off my debts and join the alliance to help you. I'm the one who said porting IRON was a bad idea. " I can confidently say really only Velyni did his job." You do realize that our council are new to the game? You knew that and you brought them in. If you did not want to run everything like you actually wanted to, then let Velyni do his job. Let me take care of Winston's work while he is busy with IRL stuff. That's what I did. Don't run everything and not giving a single ounce of work to us then blame us for not doing our job. You are the one who pulled us into the KT war without even telling us. Even Aurora said we did not have to help, but you decided to jump in without even consulting the Council. That is my take on Jaden's call out which seemed pretty immature to say the least to post on the forums and say some shit that many people don't care about (looking at you ). I recognize that you've done alot for me, which is why I didnt say you were incompetent. You did your best and I recognize that. I actually did give TM and JM the guides on how to run their department, TM has now for months now, and JM for weeks. I did what people didnt do, dont try to say that I didnt give any work to you, there were plenty of opportunities with all councillors regarding econ, the academy, admissions etc etc. Edited my statement, because you did do work, I recognize that. You seem to forget that though you took a loan, the AA would pay it off. Edited March 29, 2021 by JadenStar10 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMichaelJordan Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, JadenStar10 said: I recognize that you've done alot for me, which is why I didnt say you were incompetent. You did your best and I recognize that. I actually did give TM and JM the guides on how to run their department, TM has now for months now, and JM for weeks. I did what people didnt do, dont try to say that I didnt give any work to you, there were plenty of opportunities with all councillors regarding econ, the academy, admissions etc etc. Edited my statement, because you did do work, I recognize that. You seem to forget that though you took a loan, the AA would pay it off. Also dont take my statement too personally. I do really like you (not in a sussy way *among us*) and I still consider you a friend if you feel that way ( or more ), but in terms of looking at P&W IRON, that was my take on it. All business no pleasure or whatever the saying is. Quote too sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, TheRealMichaelJordan said: Also dont take my statement too personally. I do really like you (not in a sussy way *among us*) and I still consider you a friend if you feel that way ( or more ), but in terms of looking at P&W IRON, that was my take on it. All business no pleasure or whatever the saying is. IK, me, you, and Velyni have an understanding that we arent doing this arguement OOC. But im not going to argue anymore with people, I've given my 2 cents, and im tired. Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahakall Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Bad 😣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanersUEC Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 The way you worded you trying to get get them to join sounded very like bribery, and he told you he had previous experience in the game and he played a few years ago, THIS IS NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH. Plus you literally stole our head FA when your alliance was formed, I applaud you for running your whole alliance, but seeing as you stole our head FA a while back then tried to get our prot to merge with you, we saw this as poaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ShanersUEC said: The way you worded you trying to get get them to join sounded very like bribery, and he told you he had previous experience in the game and he played a few years ago, THIS IS NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH. Plus you literally stole our head FA when your alliance was formed, I applaud you for running your whole alliance, but seeing as you stole our head FA a while back then tried to get our prot to merge with you, we saw this as poaching. Hideri was planning to leave anyways, I had talked frequently with Hideri for months at that point. You really think someone would have randomly given up head of FA in your AA to join a small micro for no reason? She was planning to leave. 2nd Statement, Merging =/= Poaching, but I understand we had a misunderstanding, so I want to let bygones be bygones. 1 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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