Mars Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Deulos said: Better stop before you get banished to transphobe hell like me. been there, not even joking. theres a report thread with my name on it 2 Quote Throw me to the wolves and I’ll return leading the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artifex Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 As an anti-fascist, I will say that policing what people can do, think, and say sounds pretty fascist to me. 6 2 2 Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Benfro Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 As one of the original recipients of these logs and someone very close to the situation, I chose to let my actions speak louder than my words, with TKR's immediate removal of our protection of Micropock first in line. TKR gave MP a chance when nobody else would take them in as a protectorate and they worked well with us during our time together, but TKR does not stand for this type of rhetoric and actions were taken immediately to distance ourselves. That said, Kim/Seb, Sverige, and Yami have all faced significant consequences in both losing their AA home and being marked as toxic and unwelcome elsewhere going forward - we would all mourn the loss of our AAs, as they are our community and what makes this game fun and interesting. (Even if some AAs are not as...couth...as others) We see KT's acceptance of them as furthering their identity as a group that condones OOC hate and action that does not have a place in Orbis. It was very much appreciated for @Akuryo to share the information she had with TKR, and I believe we acted in the way she intended. However, it is entirely unrealistic for her not to expect any consequences of her own for what was said in these logs. This is far more than infiltration and sharing of findings; there was significant willful and active participation here, even with a posted claim to an almost immediate change of heart. She made abundantly clear to me in DMs that this was a planned attempt to assassinate the characters of Seb/Kim, Sverige, and Yami, using the OWF as a medium, and shared with me to allow TKR to distance ourselves prior to posting. The leak of the logs somewhat prevented her from going on the offensive, and shifted the spotlight onto her actions or lack thereof. Thanks to @Leftbehind for stepping forward to clarify what has happened behind the scenes there as well. TKR has no role or goal in IC intentions of weaponizing these logs beyond the acknowledgement that politically, the removal of MP from TKR's sphere hurts us as fighters especially in any potential upcoming conflict. Whether or not this was conscious or intentional, this release hurt TKR's small sphere more than any others. The belittling and condemning of @Akuryo for her role in the logs is warranted, in my belief, and does blur the IC/OOC line, but is largely self-inflicted. Her immediate prior actions to condemn others for even remote association with these types of actions and verbiage reflect projection and a lack of basic awareness of consequences for actions of her own. ---- Finally, in a strictly OOC note, the game is a better place with characters like @Kevanovia, @Prefonteen, and @Keegoz in it. These forums are more engaging, conversations are more fun, and they help to add the spice and entertainment to an otherwise pretty bland game play. I also know that can be tiring and frustrating to be in those types of roles, as you oscillate between center of attention and villain for actions taken to have fun. Regardless of views of in-game actions (yes, poaching is bad, period, because it removes people from the AA and community...see commentary above in IC section), the banter and lack of predictability are what make this space interesting, especially without the monolithic void that was present for a few years. 😉 Thanks to all that come here with a willingness and intention to enjoy themselves and allow others to have fun as well. My DMs are always open to hang out and have a beer together. 3 16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wendell Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Benfro said: Condescension. Nobody: Orbis police chief: We are looking into Akuryos actions. We'll get back to you on what on everyone should do about it. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adrienne Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Deulos said: Nobody: Orbis police chief: We are looking into Akuryos actions. We'll get back to you on what on everyone should do about it. Nobody: Deulos: I'm still pissed TKR didn't stop CC from hitting us so I'm going to deliberately misrepresent what he said and pull out a tired old Orbis World Police narrative from 3 years ago. 1 11 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Adrienne said: Nobody: Deulos: I'm still pissed TKR didn't stop CC from hitting us so I'm going to deliberately misrepresent what he said and pull out a tired old Orbis World Police narrative from 3 years ago. It got you to respond though. I'm honored to be talked to by a literal God of Orbis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adrienne Posted March 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deulos said: It got you to respond though. I'm honored to be talked to by a literal God of Orbis. Most people just DM me but cool..... 1 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Benfro said: (yes, poaching is bad, period, because it removes people from the AA and community...see commentary above in IC section) What's wrong with removing someone from an AA to another AA? I think the time is coming close to finally make that thread of why you are wrong about poaching. All of you top leaders are selfishly stopping the free market to fight for members. Idk why this is brought up here though? 3 Quote Hey Krampus, the signature edit is under account settings. Actually, here's the link. https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/settings/signature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, zigbigadorlou said: What's wrong with removing someone from an AA to another AA? I think the time is coming close to finally make that thread of why you are wrong about poaching. All of you top leaders are selfishly stopping the free market to fight for members. Idk why this is brought up here though? poaches zig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Adam Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Adrienne said: poaches zig Hi Adri, join t$ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angantyr Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) On 3/13/2021 at 8:27 AM, JadenStar10 said: Ah yes, the people that want genocide, are better than the people that dont want it, because they got jokes! Get your head out of your ass. Two sides of the same coin, really. You're both crazy. Being that there is no middle anymore, I sympathize with whoever is funnier and less of a fanatic. The tragic situation is that either side even exists, yet here we are. Besides, the word 'fascist' has no meaning. It's just a label people like you throw around to mean 'anyone who I do not like'. EQUALITY! But also my opinion is more important than yours but you are a fascist and your humor offends me, which again matters because I am more important and equality or something. - You Perhaps you should take your own advice and dislodge head from rectum. Edited March 14, 2021 by Angantyr 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firwof Kromwell Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Adrienne said: poaches zig @zigbigadorlou I think she's stalking you back Quote I personally voice my own thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fugger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Adrienne said: poaches zig You know the feeling is mutual 😉 1 Quote Hey Krampus, the signature edit is under account settings. Actually, here's the link. https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/settings/signature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Angantyr said: Two sides of the same coin, really. You're both crazy. Being that there is no middle anymore, I sympathize with whoever is funnier and less of a fanatic. The tragic situation is that either side even exists, yet here we are. Besides, the word 'fascist' has no meaning. It's just a label people like you throw around to mean 'anyone who I do not like'. EQUALITY! But also my opinion is more important than yours but you are a fascist and your humor offends me, which again matters because I am more important and equality or something. - You Perhaps you should take your own advice and dislodge head from rectum. Ah yes, people who want to genocide entire races which they view as inferior are equal to the people that dont like those kinds of views, why? Cuz the people who genocide got jokes! - Idk if you've even read the fricking logs but they are LITERALLY fascists, and have admitted to be. Are you stupid? Or just slow? Probably a fascist sympathizer, if not one. 2 1 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Orbis has left the room. Edited March 14, 2021 by Mars Quote Throw me to the wolves and I’ll return leading the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angantyr Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, JadenStar10 said: Ah yes, people who want to genocide entire races which they view as inferior are equal to the people that dont like those kinds of views, why? Cuz the people who genocide got jokes! - Idk if you've even read the fricking logs but they are LITERALLY fascists, and have admitted to be. >Probably a fascist sympathizer, if not one. You are weird for caring, and you take yourself far too seriously. Normal people do not care this much. The whole point of this thread is 'THIS PERSON IS A FASCIST OMGWTFBBQ' I am saying that I don't care. Literally. For real. I could care less about whomever's political beliefs. I just want to burn people's pixels and laugh about it later with friends. Why do you care? I really do not get it. Again, people who go on and on about fascists!!1 are even more intolerable than the actual fascists. I am neither, and if I was, who cares? But I like them more than those who go on witch hunts and ruin good games. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just got back from vacation. Figured I wouldn't comment on this, since it's pretty clear cut, and Lefty put it nicely anyways. Won't even bother reading past page 2 either, as it's pure cancer with ppl pointing at each other and screaming "nou's". That being said, I will respond to this post, as it does involve an alliance I used to be in, and closely associated with. On 3/12/2021 at 6:01 AM, Mitsuru said: I've not seen the logs this thread actually talks about but there's just one thing I want to mention here because people are trying to act like they're totally innocent. Kev tried to poach from his allies before making Soup Kitchen into The Enlightenment (which then turned into CotL). Trying to screw over your own allies like that is just really poor behavior and just reflects on him as a person in a very negative way. Luckily it failed miserably in TKR because Kev asked Changeup to do that and he wasn't convincing at all. Alright, let's talk about poaching. There is nothing "evil" about poaching. This is a game, and it's part of the game. You take risks to "steal" a member from another alliance, and if you're successful in doing so, you sit back, and laugh at the whole thing. If you're not, we laugh, while you get rolled. End result is someone laughing, and if you ask me, that's a pretty good ending. I know that we in Soup laughed, cause we poached from multiple top 10 alliances, and got away with it. But truth be told, you could sincerely have a different opinion of poaching, and if that is so, you are entitled to your own opinion, I'll respect that. My problem starts with you beating the war hammer that the idea of Soup was dishonorable, moreso Soup's founders/high gov were dishonorable, and if we really want to close in on the issue, that Kev(and Charlie, along with Kilo) and the rest of the founders of Soup were all downright despicable heathens. If that's your opinion, well, as I said earlier, you are entitled to your own opinions. But I do want to know a few things. Why did I not hear of this during the nearly full year that we were allies, or at all in the nearly 2 yrs that Soup was around? At the very least, it looks like, at the very best, you are using timing to play the situation, which isn't "honorable" at all, and at the worst, that you are being fake. From my communications with you, I don't think you are fake, but eithet way, I hope you aren't. I'd like to close this out by saying that it's just a game, yall need to relax. What Aku did, what political "activists" do, it's despicable. Who cares if someone wants to be a fascist? No one certainly cares if people are commies. Either way, people trying to play this is downright disingenuous, but that's out of my hands. Mits, if u wanna talk, hmu in dms. I am not in the business of making drama on the forums, it's pathetic. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I love 2021. So far it’s all been character assassination drama. It’s like one big free for all slayer match. Shifty’s testimony regardless of what the accusation is: Gangsta rap made me do it. This is what I live/play for. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 20 hours ago, Benfro said: As one of the original recipients of these logs and someone very close to the situation, I chose to let my actions speak louder than my words, with TKR's immediate removal of our protection of Micropock first in line. TKR gave MP a chance when nobody else would take them in as a protectorate and they worked well with us during our time together, but TKR does not stand for this type of rhetoric and actions were taken immediately to distance ourselves. That said, Kim/Seb, Sverige, and Yami have all faced significant consequences in both losing their AA home and being marked as toxic and unwelcome elsewhere going forward - we would all mourn the loss of our AAs, as they are our community and what makes this game fun and interesting. (Even if some AAs are not as...couth...as others) We see KT's acceptance of them as furthering their identity as a group that condones OOC hate and action that does not have a place in Orbis. I am extremely glad and happy that TKR does not stand for that type of fascist behaviour Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 22 hours ago, Malleator said: As an anti-fascist, I will say that policing what people can do, think, and say sounds pretty fascist to me. I understand why a lot of people are at this point but historically, and into modernity, authoritarian governments are not a better alternative unless your views happen to be in lockstep with said regime. Even then I think a lot of people would have enough self-awareness to realize oppression isn't the right path. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Comrade Joe Posted March 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2021 Wait the game that allowed a !@#$/Third Reich themed alliance has a white supremacy problem? I for one am shocked and appalled. SHOCKED AND APPALLED. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Critters Posted March 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2021 23 hours ago, Adrienne said: poaches zig Please do 7 Quote The Redneck Caliphate of Forrest's Critters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgiumFury Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 3:07 PM, Rockefeller said: I actually think we'd be fine. You'd be shocked at how many of us think of PnW as a game and not our whole lives. Generally speaking I wonder when people will learn that OOC always blends with the IC. We all know facebook posts are public, why haven't we learned that about our discord conversations? I was just making a joke about the nature of this thread ^^ But I would indeed hope we would be fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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