Popular Post Leftbehind Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 To the mods: This post will blur the lines between IC and OOC as in order for me to discuss the events that have recently taken place I must discuss both. If you wish to move this post to a forum that you deem more appropriate than thank you in advance. As many of you are aware recently there has been a full series of Logs that were created by Akuryo in order to shed light upon some of the more unsavory people within our community. These logs were created for the purpose of “coming clean” and as a warning to others that we have to be careful not to allow yourselves to become complacent when battling the more unacceptable, disgusting ideologies that some people have outside of the game. As much as I tend not to care if you are “Right” or “Left”, there are simply some viewpoints that I cannot stomach, in this case White Supremacy To me White Supremacy, and other hate, is nothing more than a burden upon society that forever locks us into stagnation. It is the sick excuses that weak minds use to justify their complete ignorance of the world around them. It is not something to be tolerated nor is it something that we can just humor. When I was made aware of these logs I spoke with Akuryo about them and asked her why she felt the need to put herself on the cross knowing full well what was going to come next. Her response was “But I did have to, I couldn't keep standing for what I do otherwise. People like me preach accountability. It was time to practice”. That is something I can respect, along with her attempt of making amends by coming public. This is why she will remain a member of CotL. I will not be forcing her out of the alliance she has called a home for a year nor will I be removing her from the friends she has made during that time. When she leaves it will be of her choice, not mine. With saying that she has shaken my faith in her ability to be my Second, that is why I asked for her to step down which she has done. To me that is a just punishment for her crimes given the remorse for past actions. Unfortunately, I understand that my decision will be unacceptable to some people. That is something I am prepared to live with as someone’s personal growth can only be achieved by willingness to work towards forgiveness. For me to turn my back on someone who is looking to make amends is simply not the person I am and would be counterproductive to the person I wish to be. 8 2 1 9 32 Quote FORMER LEADER OF COTL. PLEASE GROW INTERNALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dog dawg cat Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 ok 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denison Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 tldr? 9 1 1 Quote Janny Larpers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vero Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Denison said: tldr? Aku framed herself as a martyr to damage control for cotl 1 1 10 2 Quote Cry harder Wanted dead or alive for the following crimes: Thoughts of attempting rebellion, leaking, being a femboy, being a weeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Vero said: Aku framed herself as a martyr to damage control for cotl Incorrect. We did not know about the logs she compiled until they were posted on RON. Good try tho. 1 Quote FORMER LEADER OF COTL. PLEASE GROW INTERNALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vero Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Leftbehind said: Incorrect. We did not know about the logs she compiled until they were posted on RON. Good try tho. For 6 months... as 2IC... Nvm, I have been informed otherwise, carry on Edited March 12, 2021 by Vero 3 Quote Cry harder Wanted dead or alive for the following crimes: Thoughts of attempting rebellion, leaking, being a femboy, being a weeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Palps Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 Calling people nazis based on people they are indirectly tied to is so brave thank you Akuryo your sacrifice will not be forgotten. 5 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ramona Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 People really need to start adding tldr's to their walls of text again, I have a life, can't be reading 4 paragraphs of text every 2nd hour. 💁♀️ 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefonteen Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 Can't say I care about whether or not aku stays in cotl or cotl gov. She and by extension cotl have left an incredibly sour taste. Ingame actions or lack thereof won't alter that. 1 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey1 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 This is very interesting but meaningless. The logs was simply made to use against me and it was me who ended up "leaking" them to Ron because I was sick of being called a !@#$. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Leftbehind said: With saying that she has shaken my faith in her ability to be my Second, that is why I asked for her to step down which she has done. To me that is a just punishment for her crimes given the remorse for past actions. Akuryo, very publicly, said that I should be shot back in December. This did not spur you to ask her to resign. What's the difference between that incident and this most recent one that has caused you lose faith in her? Why is it that this recent drama has changed things? 26 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denison Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 @Thalmorposted them for you. 9 1 1 Quote Janny Larpers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbuwan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 BK Stronk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramona Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Smokey1 said: This is very interesting but meaningless. The logs was simply made to use against me and it was me who ended up "leaking" them to Ron because I was sick of being called a !@#$. I mean, if you leaked those because you didn't want be called a !@#$, then you failed from the start. It clearly shows you, Sverige, Yami and Akuryo as that. :TPFufun: The fact that you thought that would clear your name is comedic as hell. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Thalmor said: Akuryo, very publicly, said that I should be shot back in December. This did not spur you to ask her to resign. What's the difference between that incident and this most recent one that has caused you lose faith in her? Why is it that this recent drama has changed things? Because it's public. It was shown all across news servers and plastered everywhere. CoTL and the community doesn't need their leader to give us his take on the situation. They want the individuals to at minimum, apologize for their insensitivity. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havgle Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) bleh, I worded this wrong Edited March 13, 2021 by Historia Reiss 1 6 Quote "Havgle is a piece of sh*t" -probably everyone in Orbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Leftbehind said: With saying that she has shaken my faith in her ability to be my Second, that is why I asked for her to step down which she has done. To me that is a just punishment for her crimes given the remorse for past actions. Is this to make room for a return by Kev? That would be cool I think. 2 1 Quote Hey Krampus, the signature edit is under account settings. Actually, here's the link. https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/settings/signature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevanovia Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Prefonteen said: Can't say I care about whether or not aku stays in cotl or cotl gov. She and by extension cotl have left an incredibly sour taste. Ingame actions or lack thereof won't alter that. 1 hour ago, Vero said: Aku framed herself as a martyr to damage control for cotl This kind of stuff is exactly why people complain about the toxicity in this community. I for one do not want to be part of it any longer. It's not just the awful things/viewpoints of hatred that are seen. (For example, the things that Aku posted) It's also the gaslighting and behavior displayed by those in the community who are "outraged" by things happening "OOC" and need to keep 'OOC' and 'IC' separated, but meanwhile use OOC things to try and further their IC agenda. Pika and I experienced some of this BS behavior of blurring IC/OOC before we quit the first time, it's sad to see that it wasn't us just misreading something. After trying to make amends and level set, it's clear that some people take this game far too seriously and are willing to be asshats for it for IC-gain. I apologize to the folks that warned me against said behavior. I feel like a fool that I did not see it before, and that I even defended their actions - as I mistook it for honest misunderstanding. To those whom I am referencing, I truly hope I am incorrect. I hope everyone stays healthy, happy and safe. 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammayed Hydid Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Okay, and? BORING 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maia Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kevanovia said: This kind of stuff is exactly why people complain about the toxicity in this community. I for one do not want to be part of it any longer. It's not just the awful things/viewpoints of hatred that are seen. (For example, the things that Aku posted) It's also the gaslighting and behavior displayed by those in the community who are "outraged" by things happening "OOC" and need to keep 'OOC' and 'IC' separated, but meanwhile use OOC things to try and further their IC agenda. Pika and I experienced some of this BS behavior of blurring IC/OOC before we quit the first time, it's sad to see that it wasn't us just misreading something. After trying to make amends and level set, it's clear that some people take this game far too seriously and are willing to be asshats for it for IC-gain. I apologize to the folks that warned me against said behavior. I feel like a fool that I did not see it before, and that I even defended their actions - as I mistook it for honest misunderstanding. To those whom I am referencing, I truly hope I am incorrect. I hope everyone stays healthy, happy and safe. I am sorry to interupt with such a serious matter but I wish you will come back at some point, but for now stay happy and enjoy your rl! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Tbh I never got those RON logs from Akuryo nor someone close with Akuryo. Someone leaked them, she didn’t choose to post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mars Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) the internet is serious business in the monthly cotl is some type of victims thread. despite being habitual flamers and generally unbearable, the children of the blight circlejerk each other like its some kind of protocol. but alas, it is too late, mostly everyone is aware they are a bunch of [redacted] and should be treated as such. later edit: though i initially wanted to spare my braincells, i actually ended up actually reading the OP rofl, nice troll my dude, the part where akuryo fights for justice on the internet really cracked me up Edited March 12, 2021 by Mars 1 4 8 Quote Throw me to the wolves and I’ll return leading the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vero Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Kevanovia said: This kind of stuff is exactly why people complain about the toxicity in this community. I for one do not want to be part of it any longer. It's not just the awful things/viewpoints of hatred that are seen. (For example, the things that Aku posted) It's also the gaslighting and behavior displayed by those in the community who are "outraged" by things happening "OOC" and need to keep 'OOC' and 'IC' separated, but meanwhile use OOC things to try and further their IC agenda. Pika and I experienced some of this BS behavior of blurring IC/OOC before we quit the first time, it's sad to see that it wasn't us just misreading something. After trying to make amends and level set, it's clear that some people take this game far too seriously and are willing to be asshats for it for IC-gain. I apologize to the folks that warned me against said behavior. I feel like a fool that I did not see it before, and that I even defended their actions - as I mistook it for honest misunderstanding. To those whom I am referencing, I truly hope I am incorrect. I hope everyone stays healthy, happy and safe. Need I remind you Akuyro accusing t$ of being fascists happened 3 months ago. Those logs are from 6 months ago. Not only did she not send those logs to RON (she wanted to sit on them longer) she also accused t$ of being fascists (an OOC attack) for her IC agenda (trying to put a wedge between certain alliances in Quack in order for them to separate from Quack). I know you've been hiding in your toilet this entire time and know nothing of the situation though so I continually fail to see how you bring any relevance to this conversation. As for being toxic, if someone calls me and my fellow friends fascists on baseless accusations, and someone defends that person in saying "oh, but they weren't like this when I was playing the game.", yes, I am going to get pissed. I have every right to be. Have your grievances with me or other t$ gov members all you want, but I will not tolerate you tolerating OOC slander against me and my gov. I will also not tolerate the hypocrisy coming from either you or Akuryo. LB, sorry for any further tensions this may cause, I do not hold you accountable for any of this and think you have taken steps in the right direction, however if I or any other of my gov members are implied of using OOC for IC gain when Akuryo was the one to start it, I will not stand for it. 2 9 Quote Cry harder Wanted dead or alive for the following crimes: Thoughts of attempting rebellion, leaking, being a femboy, being a weeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vero said: Have your grievances with me or other t$ gov members all you want, but I will not tolerate you tolerating OOC slander against me and my gov. I will also not tolerate the hypocrisy coming from either you or Akuryo. More evidence of the BS. "Tolerating OOC slander". "hypocrisy". When have I defended Akuryo's actions? Avoiding the actual meat of the situation. Unfortunately I am not surprised. Seriously, stop the gaslighting and stop the garbage. It's a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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