Popular Post The Titan Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Hello Orbis, We know how much you love drama, and we aim to please. Yesterday at 11:56 AM server time, we initiated the first of three wars targeting the leader of The Infinite Empire. As included in the listed war reason, the impetus for these was active poaching. Not long after the initial declaration, Black Skies (the protector of The Infinite Empire) launched a series of counters on The Order. Before long, all three current Liberty bloc members were hitting Order members that were not included in the original conflict, and, in fact, were not fighting at all. A quick history for you: 1. Infinite Empire founding, Imperium-TEst merge: The Order is a recent merger between The Imperium and Terminus Est. The former Imperium head of IA, MH_speedy, (https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=206609) founded a breakaway faction known as The Infinite Empire. When he initially founded The Infinite Empire, he had our full support to the point of The Order, including an offer for protection. Naturally, like any decent protector, we set up a few rules: Spoiler 2. The First Poach: Just hours after I had explicitly asked MH_Speedy to not recruit from our ranks, he messaged Cheese Chan. The message says “Hey The Infinite Empire is merging with TEst to form The Order. I can get you into IA there. If you don’t want to join this new alliance then you can join me in my new alliance”. This is an attempt to poach Cheese Chan. Our biggest concern was the blatant offer of a position in IA before even saying if he didn’t want to join The Order and clearing it with us. Spoiler Along with Cheese Chan, it was likely that Froon would've been poached too, given their friendship. MH even acknowledged this. 3. The apology: Naturally, we reached out to MH after the fact: Spoiler During which,he shared logs of another poach: Spoiler After attempting to poach at least 3 members, he apologized and even acknowledged he was poaching and that he would take it back if he could (and presumably by extension never do it again). We felt bad for him, so we forgave him, a few weeks later things even went back to normal: Spoiler 4. Additional Poaching After repeated attempts to resolve this situation diplomatically, there was another attempt to poach. This time it was from our applicants list where he says TIE reached out. Spoiler 5. Our Response: After exhausting all other avenues, we decided to declare on MH and only MH. Before long, however, we found counters from not only Black Skies, but also The Coal Mines and Schrute Farms. These alliances were countering a legitimate action, which was in response to aggressive and repeated poaching attempts of members. This was also explained to both TCM and Schrute Farms, in addition to Black Skies. They declined. Spoiler 6. Further escalation We then offered a de-escalation diplomatically to BS, but we rejected a nonsensical offer to pay reparations for their illegitimate counters. Now, Schrute Farms and Black Skies have further escalated by hitting members who weren’t even part of the original conflict and have broken the NAP. Spoiler Tl;DR For the reasons outlined above, we recognize that a state of hostilities exists between The Order, and The Liberty Bloc (Black Skies, Schrute Farms, The Coal Mines) as well as The Infinite Empire /s/ Vader, Mac, Boyce I told you @Prefonteenmy spoilers don't work Edited February 17, 2021 by Lord Vader Fixing spoilers 4 5 17 23 Quote Peace in our time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Best of luck in resolving the conflict one way or another! Hopefully this proves a lesson about poaching... 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMorf Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Poaching is bad, poaching has consequences. 1 5 1 Quote The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk of Foreign Affairs Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mars Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) idea is to be the better option, not the jealous girlfriend crying about poaching is cringe and all your members should try and join kt Edited February 17, 2021 by Mars 23 3 Quote Throw me to the wolves and I’ll return leading the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Feck destroyed panth a day early this could of been fun.... Edited February 17, 2021 by Dusty 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alan Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 IDK chief. When the guy himself says he wasn't messaged by TIE it looks like you're making an excuse. 1 12 6 Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MinesomeMC Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lord Vader said: “Hey The Infinite Empire is merging with TEst to form The Order. I can get you into IA there. oh looks like ive mistaken the Order to be a TIm and TEst merge but it seems to be a TIE and Test merge my bad. 2 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: IDK chief. When the guy himself says he wasn't messaged by TIE it looks like you're making an excuse. last i checked the proof given had nothing to do with that guy but rather two other examples. Feel free to disprove those, or hold your peace. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monti Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: IDK chief. When the guy himself says he wasn't messaged by TIE it looks like you're making an excuse. ill ask the mans myself Edited February 17, 2021 by Montiform 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear ArcticExplorer Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Good luck to both. Sending love to Liberty and The Order ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigMorf Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: IDK chief. When the guy himself says he wasn't messaged by TIE it looks like you're making an excuse. breaking news someone who participated in something bad denies participating in something bad. Shocked! Shocked I tell you. 1 10 2 Quote The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk of Foreign Affairs Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BigMorf said: Poaching is bad, poaching has consequences. Nah man, just don't get caught. Some poachers get rolled, others get their alliances rolled. Yet others make an alliance from this. *cough cough* Soup Kitchen 😉 Edited February 17, 2021 by Orcinus Orca 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monti Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) tf is it blurry smh. but you can see right? This could be just human error. Boyce May have be mistaken by "Yeah" for his question. But, Reading it. "I didn't know how to respond to "Did they Message you" "Because I didn't know if "No They Didn't" was a good enough of a response. Still sus but eh Edited February 17, 2021 by Montiform 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattzilla Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Lord Vader said: Hello Orbis, We know how much you love drama, and we aim to please. Yesterday at 11:56 AM server time, we initiated the first of three wars targeting the leader of The Infinite Empire. As included in the listed war reason, the impetus for these was active poaching. Not long after the initial declaration, Black Skies (the protector of The Infinite Empire) launched a series of counters on The Order. Before long, all three current Liberty bloc members were hitting Order members that were not included in the original conflict, and, in fact, were not fighting at all. A quick history for you: 1. Infinite Empire founding, Imperium-TEst merge: The Order is a recent merger between The Imperium and Terminus Est. The former Imperium head of IA, MH_speedy, (https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=206609) founded a breakaway faction known as The Infinite Empire. When he initially founded The Infinite Empire, he had our full support to the point of The Order, including an offer for protection. Naturally, like any decent protector, we set up a few rules: Hide contents 2. The First Poach: Just hours after I had explicitly asked MH_Speedy to not recruit from our ranks, he messaged Cheese Chan. The message says “Hey The Infinite Empire is merging with TEst to form The Order. I can get you into IA there. If you don’t want to join this new alliance then you can join me in my new alliance”. This is an attempt to poach Cheese Chan. Our biggest concern was the blatant offer of a position in IA before even saying if he didn’t want to join The Order and clearing it with us. Hide contents Along with Cheese Chan, it was likely that Froon would've been poached too, given their friendship. MH even acknowledged this. 3. The apology: Naturally, we reached out to MH after the fact: Hide contents During which,he shared logs of another poach: Hide contents After attempting to poach at least 3 members, he apologized and even acknowledged he was poaching and that he would take it back if he could (and presumably by extension never do it again). We felt bad for him, so we forgave him, a few weeks later things even went back to normal: Hide contents 4. Additional Poaching After repeated attempts to resolve this situation diplomatically, there was another attempt to poach. This time it was from our applicants list where he says TIE reached out. Hide contents 5. Our Response: After exhausting all other avenues, we decided to declare on MH and only MH. Before long, however, we found counters from not only Black Skies, but also The Coal Mines and Schrute Farms. These alliances were countering a legitimate action, which was in response to aggressive and repeated poaching attempts of members. This was also explained to both TCM and Schrute Farms, in addition to Black Skies. They declined. Hide contents 6. Further escalation We then offered a de-escalation diplomatically to BS, but we rejected a nonsensical offer to pay reparations for their illegitimate counters. Now, Schrute Farms and Black Skies have further escalated by hitting members who weren’t even part of the original conflict and have broken the NAP. Hide contents Tl;DR For the reasons outlined above, we recognize that a state of hostilities exists between The Order, and The Liberty Bloc (Black Skies, Schrute Farms, The Coal Mines) as well as The Infinite Empire /s/ Vader, Mac, Boyce I told you @Prefonteenmy spoilers don't work for !@#$ sake can we just not start GW17 until April 13th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Mattzilla said: for !@#$ sake can we just not start GW17 until April 13th how is a micro bloc gonna start gw17 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vein Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mattzilla said: for !@#$ sake can we just not start GW17 until April 13th Pal, this micro war is nowhere close to be a «GW17» 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Charles Bolivar Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Wait what. So if I am reading this right...a merger was pushed through without much consultation with your own members, and then you attacked your own former members when a few of them formed their own AA and discussed with their own friends about joining them in this new AA. At the same time considering these same members were given no choice in the matter or were barely informed of the merger at all? Do you think you "own" the members of your alliance? 🤔 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souparmon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Charles Bolivar said: Wait what. So if I am reading this right...a merger was pushed through without much consultation with your own members, and then you attacked your own former members when a few of them formed their own AA and discussed with their own friends about joining them in this new AA. At the same time considering these same members were given no choice in the matter or were barely informed of the merger at all? Do you think you "own" the members of your alliance? 🤔 Dwight style 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monti Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, souparmon said: Dwight style I read Dwight Style while looking at your pfp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Here's what I find relevant about this post: Haha micros go boom. Don't care why, it's just good to see. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Titan Posted February 17, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Charles Bolivar said: Wait what. So if I am reading this right...a merger was pushed through without much consultation with your own members, and then you attacked your own former members when a few of them formed their own AA and discussed with their own friends about joining them in this new AA. At the same time considering these same members were given no choice in the matter or were barely informed of the merger at all? Do you think you "own" the members of your alliance? 🤔 If I don't own them, how am I supposed to sell them? My mate @Dwight k Schrutetaught me all about that. Edited February 17, 2021 by Lord Vader 11 1 Quote Peace in our time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Kryze Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Context Crunch was planning on going to swamp and Odin was going to straight up delete his nation and quit. By "poaching" They were staying in the game and in quack until you casted us aside. All of those who joined TIE did so of their own free will and in the case of Crunch, Odin, Obi-wan, and Dumpstercan they asked me to join. You do not own your members like property. I've one more screenshot I'll have to post in my next post but that has to do with I'm Alive who came much later. 4 2 Quote Your fav goth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderAvington Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Well, I guess we hope that everything guess better and that we're all in peace for a while more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 1 Edited March 21, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souparmon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Epi said: The Government of Pantheon recognizes hostilities with Black Skies after their failed attempts to impede our commandeering of their vessels. Can I be leader next? Pls 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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