Popular Post Starfuze Posted December 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2020 *I don't represent my alliance in this argument, only myself* So recently I've been bugged with some of the things Vacaid does. He has been going around spreading his plan to "fix" color bloc income. He is completely free to do so, as I am also completely free to disassemble his argument. Here's the main points of my argument: 1. It is essentially impossible 2. It is extremely pointless 3. He provides no actual plan on how to change things 4. Of the extremely limited details in his plan, none of them will work now allow me to go into detail of each and every one of these points (first point) This plan of his would require the cooperation of way too many people and cost way too much money to fix the tiny problem of having too low a color bloc income to be worth the extensive amount of time needed to make this project (second point) This plan has no actual point to it. He wants to create an increase in income for smaller nations such as himself so they can grow faster. The problem with this is that that's what alliance taxes are for. We already have a better system in place to grow newer nations with grant systems. The current system is also a lot less expensive than trying to increase color bloc value. This plan, if it were to somehow succeed, would have almost no effect on income compared to having a grant system. On top of that, the amount per day he seeks could easily be achieved by someone at his level if he just fixed his broken city builds. (third point) He has almost no plan on how to make this work. Of what he's told us, he's only given ideas on how to topple big alliances and nothing else. Of the huge promises he makes, he backs none of it up with any actual evidence. He tells us we don't have enough faith in him, but he hasn't ever shown any results or contributed to any alliance, meaning he doesn't deserve to have faith put into him until he actually produces results. (fourth point) His first idea is that to topple the "big alliances" all we have to do is hike up prices on the market. Hiking up prices within itself is already extremely difficult to do, and if we were to succeed in such, it would have little to no effect on big alliances. On top of that, when big alliances topple, will they not be replaced with more big alliances? It's not like they're just all gonna disappear into thin air. On top of all this, the way he chooses to handle himself when making this argument I also disagree with. He refuses to accept any sort of criticism. When he is asked questions about his plan, he simply claims that you were interrupting him. He backs none of his plan up with evidence. Then he complains about our lack of faith and that lack of data will be somehow made up for entirely with faith. He is somewhat cocky and arrogant about his plan, when he has no reason to. Once again, this is just my opinion. 1 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingawoo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Gud opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I haven't heard the other side to this argument, but your side certainly sounds persuasive to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubham Sharma Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Tbh, take an L when he comes to the server. I don't understand how you even managed to extract so much logic out of his words. Whenever I read a long ass paragraph of his, I feel as if all the words from dictionary have gathered around me and are taking turns drilling me inside out. Use him as an entertainment, to troll him and have a 2 min laugh but don't take him seriously please (atleast if you like having a healthy brain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Keynes Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Take his remarks with a grain of salt. He's a c5 after all. Quote My opinion may not reflect those of my alliance or its affiliates. Please read at your own discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 how to unread a thread? rawr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palps Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Phoenyx said: I haven't heard the other side to this argument, but your side certainly sounds persuasive to me. The other side is vacaid. You cannot comprehend the words of the enlightened one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Reminder that Vacaid was so terrified of being raided that he refused to disclose his nation link for months. This fact did not stop him from talking a big game and acting tough, unfortunately. Edited December 12, 2020 by Thalmor 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKsplick Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Why you guys dissing on our great Dear leader Vacaid :serious: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, BSKsplick said: Why you guys dissing on our great Dear leader Vacaid :serious: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and treat your post seriously. But he is not -my- great leader :-p. I'm persuaded by arguments that appear to be well reasoned. So far, all I see on that count are Starfuze's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 It sounds like a great idea, but actually doesn't work. Vacaid might just be trying to do something or make noise. But this has been very interesting Quote Sorry Ladies, I'm taken. Taken as a Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiho Nishizumi Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Golden Key said: Take his remarks with a grain of salt. He's a c5 after all. He rerolled after being raided at one point. He sat at c1 with no infra or anything of sort for a while just to be able to run his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrythonLexi Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Shiho Nishizumi said: He rerolled after being raided at one point. He sat at c1 with no infra or anything of sort for a while just to be able to run his mouth. So what you're saying is we should refer a friend to play and get them to C5 for the explicit purpose of rolling him? I can't atm because i'm on TCM's side of the global. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Keynes Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Shiho Nishizumi said: He rerolled after being raided at one point. He sat at c1 with no infra or anything of sort for a while just to be able to run his mouth. Very smart move by good old Vacaid there. Looking forward to more of this showdown! 1 Quote My opinion may not reflect those of my alliance or its affiliates. Please read at your own discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKsplick Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Phoenyx said: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and treat your post seriously. But he is not -my- great leader :-p. I'm persuaded by arguments that appear to be well reasoned. So far, all I see on that count are Starfuze's. He is the leader you didn't know you needed, you'll come around :serious: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfuze Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, BSKsplick said: He is the leader you didn't know you needed, you'll come around :serious: He's doesn't accept any sort of constructive criticism, which doesn't make for a good leader 1 minute ago, Starfuze said: He's doesn't accept any sort of constructive criticism, which doesn't make for a good leader and he claims he doesn't need any data or proof of his plan working, but that we just don't have enough faith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKsplick Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Starfuze said: He's doesn't accept any sort of constructive criticism, which doesn't make for a good leader and he claims he doesn't need any data or proof of his plan working, but that we just don't have enough faith Vacaid always has a plan Trust Believe and Together we shall succeed :serious: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfuze Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BSKsplick said: Vacaid always has a plan Trust Believe and Together we shall succeed :serious: there's no way ya'll ain't trolling rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKsplick Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Starfuze said: there's no way ya'll ain't trolling rn I am known to speak only the Truth, believe me when I say you'll come around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spukey Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Something something you don’t know what you want blah In all seriousness, when did he suggest improving colour blocs? I have trouble understanding him (understatement) so I might have missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrythonLexi Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Nukey6 said: Something something you don’t know what you want blah In all seriousness, when did he suggest improving colour blocs? I have trouble understanding him (understatement) so I might have missed it. The something or rather about "color bloc poverty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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