Popular Post Benfro Posted November 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Akuryo said: The blitz in this hypothetical world you speak of would have continued and KOd hedge (save some super whale stragglers you can now harpoon at your leisure), leaving essentially a Quack v Swamp 1v1. Wherein the majority of Swamps upper tier is already dead (TCW) or is not exactly anything more than a speed bump. How would we ever know about TCW’s upper tier in this hypothetical? 7 of their largest nations have already gone VM while on the winning side. War dodging while on the dog piling side is some sort of new mental gymnastics that I’ll never be able to understand. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Benfro said: How would we ever know about TCW’s upper tier in this hypothetical? 7 of their largest nations have already gone VM while on the winning side. War dodging while on the dog piling side is some sort of new mental gymnastics that I’ll never be able to understand. Gotta dodge them 80% odds nukes, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMorf Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Benfro said: How would we ever know about TCW’s upper tier in this hypothetical? 7 of their largest nations have already gone VM while on the winning side. War dodging while on the dog piling side is some sort of new mental gymnastics that I’ll never be able to understand. You know TCW really wants to take down Quack... but they'll let their new friends do all of the you know... fighting. 1 Quote The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk of Foreign Affairs Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Leaving this here for reference. The entirety of your booo dogpile talk is irrelevant. For all your talk of minispheres and fair fights, one of your sphere leaders has just openly admitted to every single world we've said so far being entirely correct. Edited November 2, 2020 by Prefonteen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexz Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Cooper_ said: This declaration is probably the defining point of this war, perhaps of the entire post-IQ era. Unfortunately, I think this is true for the wrong reasons. The war was expected to be a HM/Swamp v Quack. I'm not sure who would've won, but it would've been close. But my qualms aren't limited to what could’ve been the makeup of an excitingly competitive war, they mostly lie with the lasting repercussions on the meta. A lot of the ideas that Rose suggested y'all stood for have been abandoned here. At one point, you seemed to believe in the ideas of a balanced, multipolar world and fighting in wars for the sake of the meta. Now, that's no longer the case. Things have changed. There's an interesting juxtaposition you can create between the declaration here and the declaration at the beginning of Dial-Up. In one, you were outnumbered, outgunned, and fighting against a plot to gang up on a smaller sphere. Today, you are outnumbering, outgunning and fighting with a plot to dogpile another sphere. In the first case, the claims about fairness and the meta made a lot of sense, and earned you a lot of fans like many of us in Quack. Yet here we are where we're faced with the same set of justifications that ring hollow in a set of circumstances that belies your cause to enter. It's hard to make better wars from the former as you stipulate in the OP when this scenario is reminiscent of the same former chicanery in past wars, entering without a CB and without regard for the consequences on the meta. The situation is further complicated by the stances y'all have taken for months if not years preceding this war on what the meta should look like. Outwardly, there seemed to be Rose buy-in to the concept of a world with many powers that isn't constrained by consolidation. Inwardly, those principles weren't applied. Rose's entry has solidified the resolve of Quack. Many of us were expecting significant changes in the composition of spheres and a serious shift in power as a consequence of the war with HM/Swamp. This might've (perhaps was even likely to have) resulted in the breakup and restructuring of Quack and/or Swamp, the two largest spheres in the game. Personally, that's where I saw value. There were a lot of moving parts and numerous opportunities to see the dynamic in Orbis radically change, a true expression of elusive dynamism in Orbis. It’s going to take a lot for that to be considered again. I don't know what the political result of this will be. The entry has mortared any cracks in Quack internals and effectively isolated us from the rest of the game. The expectation that we'll see a significant restructuring after this is now in flux. This is the most disappointing part. It's also where I see the most hypocrisy for any real motivations about the meta, sphere size, or any sort of principles. Bipolarity and stagnation is something I fear, and the necessary ingredients were assembled here. Heck, it even defeats the purported CBs and reasons behind the other sphere's war too. The corruption of these values is full-thickness. And maybe that doesn't mean much to most people. To the born-and-bred TKR guy, this is everything. I’m struggling with understanding how you see us moving forward from here, Quack and Orbis. I don’t want this to happen. No one in Quack wants this to happen. A move to bipolarity and stagnation like we saw in the past is demonstrably harmful, yet it’s seeming more and more inevitable. The conditions are already unfavorable, and we’re going to need to see change (and a lot of it) if we hope to stop this. Yet despite all of this, we still don't have a reason behind the entry–if there really even is one. The series of shifting rationales we've been given haven't added up. The few lines we've been given here aren't effective either. For such a large-scoping decision and for all of the good faith we have–I have–afforded you, this merits more. The future of Orbis that you've catalyzed deserves at least some better explanation for the decision made here. I hope you consider this. I hope the damage is reparable. Tugging at my heart strings, this is surely noted. Our dms are also open for you Cooper, don't be shy now, you were persistent before, don't stop now 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adrienne Posted November 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vexz said: Tugging at my heart strings, this is surely noted. Our dms are also open for you Cooper, don't be shy now, you were persistent before, don't stop now In other words: We have nothing of value to respond back with and we know it so we are too afraid to engage in the OWF and instead will be dismissive of Cooper and pretend like he/TKR haven't already been talking with us in DMs already. Edited November 2, 2020 by Adrienne 1 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Congrats on the #1 spot! Any update on a CB? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benfro Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Vexz said: Tugging at my heart strings, this is surely noted. Our dms are also open for you Cooper, don't be shy now, you were persistent before, don't stop now To be clear - why is the onus on Cooper or TKR to initiate contact after we and our allies were hit by Rose? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexz Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Benfro said: To be clear - why is the onus on Cooper or TKR to initiate contact after we and our allies were hit by Rose? Cooper and I had a little catch up with things, but he had made it clear to me that he and you weren't yet ready emotionally to speak about in game, so I left it there. Which is why I said in my post that if he wanted, he could reach out to me in dms, not to be dismissive of his feelings and beliefs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vexz said: Cooper and I had a little catch up with things, but he had made it clear to me that he and you weren't yet ready emotionally to speak about in game, so I left it there. Which is why I said in my post that if he wanted, he could reach out to me in dms, not to be dismissive of his feelings and beliefs. I am definitely emotionally ready to speak about your part in this dogpile. Happy to function as a mouthpiece for friend @Adrienne with her permission. Sounds fun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Vexz said: Cooper and I had a little catch up with things, but he had made it clear to me that he and you weren't yet ready emotionally to speak about in game, so I left it there. Which is why I said in my post that if he wanted, he could reach out to me in dms, not to be dismissive of his feelings and beliefs. Look at this. You literally claimed you weren't being dismissive of his feelings and dismissed them in the same paragraph just here. How are we supposed to believe your first comment was made in good will? You seem like a conceited backpedaling jackass to me, if I'm being honest. 1 3 4 Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Rose should feel utterly ashamed for not considering the emotional wellbeing of the mighty Syndicate members and her allies before declaring war against them. We will not let this stand! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Sketchy said: Rose should feel utterly ashamed for not considering the emotional wellbeing of the mighty Syndicate members and her allies before declaring war against them. We will not let this stand! @OdinFound your deposits! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Prefonteen said: @OdinFound your deposits! See, I told you I would not share funds with the enemy. Why did you ever doubt my loyalty to the mighty Syndicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sketchy said: Rose should feel utterly ashamed for not considering the emotional wellbeing of the mighty Syndicate members and her allies before declaring war against them. We will not let this stand! Hey, I'm a conceited jackass too. But I don't backpedal. If they're going to be insensitive and drag it into a public forum, they need to stick to their guns or apologize authentically, as far as I'm concerned. I'll say at the very least I respect them for not running a racket as Econ mgmt and stealing from their members. They've got that going for them at least! Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Sisyphus said: Hey, I'm a conceited jackass too. But I don't backpedal. If they're going to be insensitive and drag it into a public forum, they need to stick to their guns or apologize authentically, as far as I'm concerned. I'll say at the very least I respect them for not running a racket as Econ mgmt and stealing from their members. They've got that going for them at least! I agree, this insensitivity cannot go unpunished! And you sir are truly an inspiration to us all, a cyclist amongst men! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Sketchy said: I agree, this insensitivity cannot go unpunished! And you sir are truly an inspiration to us all, a cyclist amongst men! if more syndicate members were like this, we'd be rich off of dubiously acquired banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Prefonteen said: if more syndicate members were like this, we'd be rich off of dubiously acquired banks. Indeed, I am truly the most Loyal Syndicate Supporter. I shall continue to set an example for my fellows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I am fooled. Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cooper_ Posted November 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Vexz said: Cooper and I had a little catch up with things, but he had made it clear to me that he and you weren't yet ready emotionally to speak about in game, so I left it there. Which is why I said in my post that if he wanted, he could reach out to me in dms, not to be dismissive of his feelings and beliefs. Seems like everyone is so concerned about my feelings. I should feel honored. We did have a short conversation. It was nice to speak to you again. Yes, I didn't think it was the best time to deal with the personal issues between Rose and TKR. Though I've already spoken to Mhearl a few times. Understandably, the good faith and trust we recently had is mostly lost. That said, my response to your DoW is of a nature that I feel is best addressed publicly. I have specifically chosen to avoid bringing up any dirty laundry that I felt was best left for backchannels, but the comments I made here concern a world vision and are separate. Your DoW has fundamentally changed the meta, and I think we deserve a more elaborative public response on why you've decided to do that and the ability to have Orbis scrutinize its impacts. To me, it looks like Rose's value system as we knew it had collapsed. My bloc-mates have agreed to clear this thread for a bit, so we can have a constructive discussion about it. Right now, none of us are convinced in the reasoning for this choice nor how it will affect the meta. We're looking for some answers. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Prefonteen said: if more syndicate members were like this, we'd be rich off of dubiously acquired banks. Is this a membership offer? :^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Shout out to @Plo Koon , @Ciriaco , and maybe more Birds of a feather, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 What we made you do is give a sorry ass entrance into this war da frick is that LMFAO 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubstomper Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 alright you guys want a cb, ill give u a cb. let me tell u a story to offer some context Valk: Hey partisan lets go play frisbee golf partisan: ok partner, that sounds great they took off towards the folf course, discs in hand and valk readies up to start his first throw, eyes narrowed on the bucket partisans phone rings, "friday" by rebecca black playing over and over again while he refuses to answer it so he can "enjoy the song". valk whiffs the shot. fricking rebecca black. partisan. took everything from him. valk announces his immediate folf retirement and travels the world he sees all kinds of people and places. One day he came across a giant hedge, no other path but through it. as he is making his way through the hedge, pushing all the branches out of the way he starts to realize that there is money instead of leaves on this hedge. as he finally reaches the other side of the hedge he cant help but don a big smile. As he looks across the swamp in front of him he knows exactly how he will exact his revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changeup Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, Pubstomper said: "friday" by rebecca black playing over and over again frankly, this sounds more like a CB on The Commonwealth. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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