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6 hours ago, Kosta said:

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  • "A person who attacks and robs ships at sea." (Google)
  • "Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable items or properties." (Wikipedia)
  • "A person who sails in a ship and attacks other ships in order to steal from them." (Cambridge Dictionary)

Something tells me you don't know what a pirate is! 🙃

Landlubbers are piracy experts OwO

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10 hours ago, Isjaki said:

Pirates aren't raiders. Raiders raid for cash. Pirates exist to have fun.

38 minutes ago, Isjaki said:

Landlubbers are piracy experts OwO

Idk dude, it sounds like to me that you might have shivered one too many timbers... (if you get what I mean 🙃)
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5 minutes ago, Kosta said:

Idk dude, it sounds like to me that you might have shivered one too many timbers... (if you get what I mean 🙃)
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That we are. We also are premier pixel burners. We do what we want, basically. Check individual stats. Our nations are the most successful raiders despite the war. If you want to be a raider, or a pixel burner, or do whatever you want, Arrgh is the place to be 😛

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10 hours ago, Isjaki said:

Pirates aren't raiders. Raiders raid for cash. Pirates exist to have fun.

Isjaki says this^

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Arrgh says this ^

8 minutes ago, Isjaki said:

That we are. We also are premier pixel burners. We do what we want, basically. Check individual stats. Our nations are the most successful raiders despite the war. If you want to be a raider, or a pixel burner, or do whatever you want, Arrgh is the place to be 😛

And then Isjaki says this^

*visible confusion*

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18 minutes ago, Kosta said:

Isjaki says this^

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What part of premier raiding alliance and beacon of freedom is hard to understand? We raid, we burn pixels, we do whatever we want to do. Cuz it's fun.

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2 hours ago, Kosta said:

 

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Arrgh says this ^

 

We been stealing your property for years, and we have the freedom to use that stolen property, to burn down your new property. 

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We've made it very clear that our goal is to make you Lose as much potential revenue as possible, whatever the cost. And the results are better than our most optimistic expectations. 

Meanwhile your damage is being proped up by 5 people who have barely laid a scratch on our economic output 

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8 hours ago, Grave said:

We've made it very clear that our goal is to make you Lose as much potential revenue as possible, whatever the cost. And the results are better than our most optimistic expectations. 

Meanwhile your damage is being proped up by 5 people who have barely laid a scratch on our economic output

```Markovia losses: (1 nations)
Units: 
{SOLDIER=1044256, MISSILE=8, MONEY=3050197, TANK=8001, SHIP=19, NUKE=5}
Infra: $26,125,831.70
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=1320.43, MUNITIONS=3927.68}
Loot: 
{MONEY=-44017291.51, FOOD=-5510, COAL=-1098, OIL=-117, URANIUM=261, LEAD=-33, IRON=-601, BAUXITE=-332, GASOLINE=-8025, MUNITIONS=-2787, STEEL=-3569, ALUMINUM=-6189}
Total: 
{MONEY=1760077.19, FOOD=-5510, COAL=-1098, OIL=-117, URANIUM=1511, LEAD=-33, IRON=-601, BAUXITE=-332, GASOLINE=-3604.57, MUNITIONS=1140.68, STEEL=1001.50, ALUMINUM=-1639}
Converted Total: $-11,603,023.09

* losses: (18 nations)
Units: 
{SOLDIER=412909, AIRCRAFT=376, TANK=14337, SHIP=6, NUKE=1}
Infra: $320,506,756.13
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=10768.88, MUNITIONS=12978.81}
Loot: 
{MONEY=44017291.51, FOOD=5510, COAL=1098, OIL=117, URANIUM=-261, LEAD=33, IRON=601, BAUXITE=332, GASOLINE=8025, MUNITIONS=2787, STEEL=3569, ALUMINUM=6189}
Total: 
{MONEY=371002812.64, FOOD=5510, COAL=1098, OIL=117, URANIUM=-11, LEAD=33, IRON=601, BAUXITE=332, GASOLINE=19293.88, MUNITIONS=15765.81, STEEL=10917.50, ALUMINUM=8819}
Converted Total: $541,567,314.38```

That's my last 10 days, for every million I looted from you, I also made you lose $50m

And you know what's funnier? I was in net loss before this war started 😛 I was never making any profits to begin with.

so the question is still remains same, what Ripper asked, or you're blindly following "whatever the cost", in that case you can just say that and we won't judge you :)

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13 hours ago, Grave said:

We've made it very clear that our goal is to make you Lose as much potential revenue as possible, whatever the cost. And the results are better than our most optimistic expectations. 

Meanwhile your damage is being proped up by 5 people who have barely laid a scratch on our economic output 

Why do you need Shubham to embarass you when you embarrass yourself? 😛

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3 hours ago, Ripper said:

Let's say that your official bloc-wide war goal is for: a. Arrgh to make no money/get max damage, b. no matter the cost for you, c. forever.

What's the "political" goal you expect to achieve with this? To put on pressure for Arrgh to never raid you again? To end piracy altogether forever in Orbis? To get reparations?
Or the damage is the end-goal per se suddenly, because some of your leaders got kinda sad they were actually the ones being raided for once, instead of your members? :v

they want to be a raider too....but with a lot of friend!!! instead of raiding rich alliances, they choose to raid Arrgh......now i can raid TKR with my 3 defensive slot fillers

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13 hours ago, Sam Cooper said:

```Markovia losses: (1 nations)
Units: 
{SOLDIER=1044256, MISSILE=8, MONEY=3050197, TANK=8001, SHIP=19, NUKE=5}
Infra: $26,125,831.70
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=1320.43, MUNITIONS=3927.68}
Loot: 
{MONEY=-44017291.51, FOOD=-5510, COAL=-1098, OIL=-117, URANIUM=261, LEAD=-33, IRON=-601, BAUXITE=-332, GASOLINE=-8025, MUNITIONS=-2787, STEEL=-3569, ALUMINUM=-6189}
Total: 
{MONEY=1760077.19, FOOD=-5510, COAL=-1098, OIL=-117, URANIUM=1511, LEAD=-33, IRON=-601, BAUXITE=-332, GASOLINE=-3604.57, MUNITIONS=1140.68, STEEL=1001.50, ALUMINUM=-1639}
Converted Total: $-11,603,023.09

* losses: (18 nations)
Units: 
{SOLDIER=412909, AIRCRAFT=376, TANK=14337, SHIP=6, NUKE=1}
Infra: $320,506,756.13
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=10768.88, MUNITIONS=12978.81}
Loot: 
{MONEY=44017291.51, FOOD=5510, COAL=1098, OIL=117, URANIUM=-261, LEAD=33, IRON=601, BAUXITE=332, GASOLINE=8025, MUNITIONS=2787, STEEL=3569, ALUMINUM=6189}
Total: 
{MONEY=371002812.64, FOOD=5510, COAL=1098, OIL=117, URANIUM=-11, LEAD=33, IRON=601, BAUXITE=332, GASOLINE=19293.88, MUNITIONS=15765.81, STEEL=10917.50, ALUMINUM=8819}
Converted Total:$541,567,314.38

 

"Proped up by 5 people " doesn't make sense to you?  

How deluded are you truly? 

If we based this war off my individual stats then we'd be outdamaging you but that's not how alliance stats work, you don't get to pick who best represents the average, arrgh is being rapidly siphoned of months worth of combined financial gain and that is a fact. 

 

 

8 hours ago, Ripper said:

Let's say that your official bloc-wide war goal is for: a. Arrgh to make no money/get max damage, b. no matter the cost for you, c. forever.

What's the "political" goal you expect to achieve with this? To put on pressure for Arrgh to never raid you again? To end piracy altogether forever in Orbis? To get reparations?
Or the damage is the end-goal per se suddenly, because some of your leaders got kinda sad they were actually the ones being raided for once, instead of your members? :v

Who said Forever? I know you guys love playing the victim card but you'll be let go when we have inflicted enough losses on arrgh as a whole. 

 

And why do we have to have a goal? The reality is you take actions that most alliances would consider a declaration of war every day to most alliances and we let you get away with it because we feel bad for you and it's not worth the money, we have simply decided (and its long overdue personally) that enough attacks have occurred over a period of time to warrant retaliation, accept it, take your beating and enjoy it. 

See you in my notifications.

 

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24 minutes ago, Grave said:

And why do we have to have a goal?

 

20 hours ago, Grave said:

We've made it very clear that our goal is to make you Lose as much potential revenue as possible, whatever the cost.

Not only you don't know what your goal is, but you are not even sure whether you actually have a goal. :v

To answer to your question though...

"Βecause you are using your taxpayers money and you should use them responsibly."
Especially if you think that the only reason the war started was because leaders were attacked, but when it came to members, you wouldn't even launch regular counters.

26 minutes ago, Grave said:

Who said Forever? I know you guys love the victim card but you'll be let go when we have inflicted enough losses on arrgh as a whole. 

A reason I am saying you have no goals. How much is "enough"? Asking for a friend.

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Here is the scenario I am seeing from what you are saying:
In a few weeks, you will be at $20B damage received and $5B inflicted, with that $5B being reduced to half that due to regular raiding.

Then you will unilaterally declare victory or that the war is over and call it a win because your "goal" was fulfilled.

And then you will keep getting raided as always...

35 minutes ago, Grave said:

 take your beating and enjoy it.

... and you will enjoy it.  ;)

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54 minutes ago, Grave said:

take your beating and enjoy it. 

Queen Adriennes Revenge losses: (1 nations)
Units: 
{TANK=19452, MISSILE=17, NUKE=12, SHIP=178, SOLDIER=1318824, AIRCRAFT=20}
Infra: $66,997,095.71
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=2721.96, MUNITIONS=5656.61}
Loot: 
{MONEY=-92243347.58, FOOD=-82935, COAL=-3792, OIL=-1280, URANIUM=-594, LEAD=-169, IRON=-3941, BAUXITE=-1820, GASOLINE=-8169, MUNITIONS=-7808, STEEL=-17413, ALUMINUM=-8869}
Total: 
{MONEY=15044988.13, FOOD=-82935, COAL=-3792, OIL=-1280, URANIUM=2406, LEAD=-169, IRON=-3941, BAUXITE=-1820, GASOLINE=1827.96, MUNITIONS=-2151.39, STEEL=-2347, ALUMINUM=1931}
Converted Total: $-30,162,715.94

The Immortals,Farkistan,The Lost Empire,The Fighting Pacifists,The Ampersand,The Federation,United Socialist Nations,The Mortals,The Lost Legion losses: (29 nations)
Units: 
{TANK=26169, SHIP=66, MISSILE=1, NUKE=2, SOLDIER=399663, AIRCRAFT=261}
Infra: $974,096,744.94
Consumption: 
{GASOLINE=29965.94, MUNITIONS=38586.03}
Loot: 
{MONEY=92243347.58, FOOD=82935, COAL=3792, OIL=1280, URANIUM=594, LEAD=169, IRON=3941, BAUXITE=1820, GASOLINE=8169, MUNITIONS=7808, STEEL=17413, ALUMINUM=8869}
Total: 
{MONEY=1077902547.52, FOOD=82935, COAL=3792, OIL=1280, URANIUM=1094, LEAD=169, IRON=3941, BAUXITE=1820, GASOLINE=39209.94, MUNITIONS=46394.03, STEEL=32477.50, ALUMINUM=11774}
Converted Total: $1,502,044,638.42

 

I would like to report that I'm taking my beating and enjoying it 🙈

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46 minutes ago, Grave said:

If we based this war off my individual stats then we'd be outdamaging you but that's not how alliance stats work

Well I mean I could post alliance stats too and it won't look much different.

48 minutes ago, Grave said:

arrgh is being rapidly siphoned of months worth of combined financial gain and that is a fact.

Is this what you've been telling your allies to keep their morale high? 
"Just one more round guys! Pirates who have funded entire banks on their own are almost out of money"  xD
anyway, here's a tip, there's no such thing as 'combined financial gain' for Arrgh, individual pirates fund their own war efforts and bear their losses on their own.

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1 hour ago, Ripper said:

 

Not only you don't know what your goal is, but you are not even sure whether you actually have a goal. :v

To answer to your question though...

"Βecause you are using your taxpayers money and you should use them responsibly."
Especially if you think that the only reason the war started was because leaders were attacked, but when it came to members, you wouldn't even launch regular counters.

A reason I am saying you have no goals. How much is "enough"? Asking for a friend.

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Here is the scenario I am seeing from what you are saying:
In a few weeks, you will be at $20B damage received and $5B inflicted, with that $5B being reduced to half that due to regular raiding.

Then you will unilaterally declare victory or that the war is over and call it a win because your "goal" was fulfilled.

And then you will keep getting raided as always...

... and you will enjoy it.  ;)

 

 

You asked about a "political " goal after I stated our damage goals. Which means you can differentiate between the two, so why do you pretend they are the same now? 

You pretend its just because leaders were attacked yet this wouldn't happen to any other alliance under those circumstances, it was your 3rd strike. 

A week after we give you mercy Swamp will be rebuilt as if nothing happened while many in arrgh will struggle for weeks and pull out loans to have any rebuilding funds 

You will raid, but each time you do it will be one raid closer until the next time we wipe out all of your loot taken from us & much more. And the cycle continues.

 

1 hour ago, Isjaki said:

I would like to report that I'm taking my beating and enjoying it 🙈

When you brag about 30m looted as a raider. Well we've already knocked the sense out of you for sure 

1 hour ago, Sam Cooper said:

Well I mean I could post alliance stats too and it won't look much different.

Is this what you've been telling your allies to keep their morale high? 
"Just one more round guys! Pirates who have funded entire banks on their own are almost out of money"  xD
anyway, here's a tip, there's no such thing as 'combined financial gain' for Arrgh, individual pirates fund their own war efforts and bear their losses on their own.

The alliance stats tell us arrgh has lost more in the last 2 weeks than you've gained in the last 6 weeks before this started, meanwhile Swamp is losing much less than we make daily, that is more than we could have hoped for and we've gotten it easily through facing 0 resistance while rolling you all .

 

" there's  no combined financial gain " That's a really weird way of admitting  that your rebuild is going to take longer than ours for most of your members despite costing less. 

 

Anyway I'm done trying to teach common sense to your little troll brigade, reply all you want, it's not going to compensate for most of your fellow raiders getting waffle stomped. 

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40 minutes ago, Grave said:

You asked about a "political " goal after I stated our damage goals. Which means you can differentiate between the two, so why do you pretend they are the same now?

I just thank you for confirming that you have an abstract war goal and no political one backing it.

I am amazed you tax people and use their money under such circumstances.

War without politics is pure warmongering. It looks like we are more similar than you thought. Welcome to the "fun side" of the game you so much condemn.

40 minutes ago, Grave said:

A week after we give you mercy Swamp will be rebuilt as if nothing happened while many in arrgh will struggle for weeks and pull out loans to have any rebuilding funds

I did chuckle with this one.

Loans to rebuild... what?

I think this confirms you guys are just oblivious when it comes to understanding how piracy works.

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1 hour ago, Grave said:

You asked about a "political " goal after I stated our damage goals. Which means you can differentiate between the two, so why do you pretend they are the same now?

Actually you haven't stated any damage goals, just blustered about "as much damage as possible". That's not so much of a concrete goal as an intent. Meanwhile, you've also said that there's such a thing as "enough" damage... so which is it?

1 hour ago, Grave said:

You pretend its just because leaders were attacked yet this wouldn't happen to any other alliance under those circumstances, it was your 3rd strike. 

So, wait... you've got a 3 strike policy against raiders? Are you therefore saying that T$ can declare two wars against you before you'll even counter?

@Shiho Nishizumi gib raid dispensation pls

1 hour ago, Grave said:

A week after we give you mercy Swamp will be rebuilt as if nothing happened while many in arrgh will struggle for weeks and pull out loans to have any rebuilding funds

First off, no, Swamp has spent billions on this war. That money is gone, it pouf, bai bai. It's not coming back. It's been expended on the battlefield, which means it wasn't invested into further growth. Now, certainly those losses are well within your ability to absorb... but that's still billions in opportunity cost; that is to say, you could have used those billions on cities. So, while you will easily rebuild to where you were infrastructure-wise, you'll never be able to catch up with where you would have been if you'd invested economically as opposed to militarily.

Second, Arrgh doesn't 'rebuild'. And they sure as heck don't need loans, which is good since nobody in their right mind would extend a loan to a pirate.

I mean, what, do you think they're gonna need a hundred million dollars each to get their commerce back up to 114% to comply with alliance policy? bruh

They're not even struggling now lol

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7 hours ago, Grave said:

When you brag about 30m looted as a raider. Well we've already knocked the sense out of you for sure 

Except that I haven't even bothered to loot and am still in the positives. Damage is more fun. Like the rest have been screaming, pirates have no 'losses' and no 'rebuild'.

I thought landlubbers didn't understand piracy but I didn't know the situation was this bad 🤭

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12 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said:

Actually you haven't stated any damage goals, just blustered about "as much damage as possible". That's not so much of a concrete goal as an intent. Meanwhile, you've also said that there's such a thing as "enough" damage... so which is it?

So, wait... you've got a 3 strike policy against raiders? Are you therefore saying that T$ can declare two wars against you before you'll even counter?

@Shiho Nishizumi gib raid dispensation pls

First off, no, Swamp has spent billions on this war. That money is gone, it pouf, bai bai. It's not coming back. It's been expended on the battlefield, which means it wasn't invested into further growth. Now, certainly those losses are well within your ability to absorb... but that's still billions in opportunity cost; that is to say, you could have used those billions on cities. So, while you will easily rebuild to where you were infrastructure-wise, you'll never be able to catch up with where you would have been if you'd invested economically as opposed to militarily.

Second, Arrgh doesn't 'rebuild'. And they sure as heck don't need loans, which is good since nobody in their right mind would extend a loan to a pirate.

I mean, what, do you think they're gonna need a hundred million dollars each to get their commerce back up to 114% to comply with alliance policy? bruh

They're not even struggling now lol

 

Your willful Ignorance exceeds a level of stupidity that I thought wasn't possible for a non-raider. Firstly, I said at the beginning of the thread that our goal wasn't to go positive but to greatly reduce their income. 

'3rd strike' synonymous with 'the last straw' which is obvious to anyone who isn't intentionally smoothbrained when reading , any alliance could attack us 3 times and only receive counters in return. But to say our only justification is leaders getting hit is another smoothbrained statement. 

"Arrgh doesn't rebuild " and I thought the rest of your statement was laughable, this takes the cake, of course arrgh rebuilds, you can't raid when all of your cities are at 30 infra and unpowered., and when you have to work your way back up instead of being given the funds to do so it brings about the weeks of stagnant growth I mentioned above 

"what, do you think they're gonna need a hundred million dollars each "

Actually yeah, they'd need over 100 million each to return all their losses from this war. Meanwhile Swamp is at 60m per player and will actually return those losses to their memebers 

 

Atleast the arrgh trolls used stats and have a different viewpoint, you are just filled with double standards and an ignorance that is unmatched by any other in this game. 

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2 hours ago, Grave said:

of course arrgh rebuilds, you can't raid when all of your cities are at 30 infra and unpowered., and when you have to work your way back up instead of being given the funds to do so it brings about the weeks of stagnant growth I mentioned above 

 

2 hours ago, Grave said:

your statement was laughable

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