Azaghul Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 New Pacific Order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Legoboyvdlp said: "but I have a black / gay / something friend, I'm not racist / homophobic / something" 😭 From someone who has personally lived in both an authoritarian far left wing country and an authoritarian far right wing country, you have no idea what you are talking about. I just hope you'll find out when you grow up and enter the real world, before you make mistakes you'll have to live with for the rest of your life. Again, you don't understand the principles of a game, having villains makes the game more fun. I am currently living under one of the worst dictatorships in the world, so I think I know much more than you do. 3 minutes ago, Big Brother said: You know, I wasn't entirely sure if you were just trolling or not but now I definitely am because you seem to be deliberately ignoring everything being said to you while making up your own version of what is being said. So, I'm going to call it a day. Welcome to the game, I'm sure the fascist stuff will totally work out for you. It is because of your inability to make a solid argument that you are leaving. You don't even know that you are in a game, I hope someday you make the distinction between a political game and real politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonCloud Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 see, both of these ideologies are allowed, but fascism is just not as funny as communism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, NeonCloud said: see, both of these ideologies are allowed, but fascism is just not as funny as communism Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonCloud Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Francoist said: Why? think of the funniest fascist meme you ever saw, and then the funniest communist meme you ever saw, I personally cannot think of a fascist meme that made me laugh , but in soviet russia, jokes laugh at you 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NeonCloud said: think of the funniest fascist meme you ever saw, and then the funniest communist meme you ever saw, I personally cannot think of a fascist meme that made me laugh , but in soviet russia, jokes laugh at you 👀 Everybody has his own taste. Memes are not related to the fun in game, but there are lots videos in youtube that parody the movie downfall, some of them are funny. Edited July 13, 2020 by Francoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonCloud Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Francoist said: Everybody has his own taste. Memes are not related to the fun in game, but there are lots videos in youtube that parodies the movie downfall, some of them are funny. so heres the thinking process behind this : theres more popular communist memes then fascist --> theres more people meme about communists then fascists --> more people create communist alliances also, theres a lack of fascist memes, which also means theres a lack of fascist alliances, so to answer your question, its either no, they do not exist anymore or little knowns ones or not publicly declared about, unless you can start a 1 man dictatorship in the orbis or someone declares their alliance fascist tmrw, the straight answer is no Edited July 13, 2020 by NeonCloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, NeonCloud said: so heres the think process behind this : there more popular communist memes then fascist --> its more people meme about communists then fascists --> more people create communist alliances also, theres a lack of fascist memes, which also means theres a lack of fascist alliances, so to answer your question, its either no, they do not exist anymore or little knowns ones or not publicly declared about, unless you can start a 1 man dictatorship in the orbis or someone declares their alliance fascist tmrw, the straight answer is no Your logic is a little bit too much meme-centric, but still it is the strongest one so far. But pirates also have an alliance here, are there lots of memes about pirates? Also, there are lots of fascist alliances in Nationstates or in Cybernations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonCloud Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Francoist said: Your logic is a little bit too much meme-centric, but still it is the strongest one so far. But pirates also have an alliance here, are there lots of memes about pirates? Also, there are lots of fascist alliances in Nationstates or in Cybernations. pirate meme also, I dont know about nation states or cyber nations alot, but a quick glance at cyber nations wiki page showed me that theres far more alliances there then in Politics and war, I know the numbers arent exact, but there are 5x more alliances in cyber nations then in poltics and war which means theres more chance of there being a fascist alliance there then politics and war, I assume the same for nation states Edited July 13, 2020 by NeonCloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Are we going to do the 1930's over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, NeonCloud said: pirate meme also, I dont know about nation states or cyber nations alot, but a quick glance at cyber nations wiki page showed me that theres far more alliances there then in Politics and war, I know the numbers arent exact, but there are 5x more alliances in cyber nations then in poltics and war which means theres more chance of there being a fascist alliance there then politics and war, I assume the same for nation states Cybernations once had lots of players, but now it is dying. Perhaps the number of alliances belongs to its golden age. 2 minutes ago, Lelouch said: Are we going to do the 1930's over again? It is a game. Do you also say to pirates in the game "Are we going to do the 16th century over again? ". Also if it is about fascism you should have said "1920's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeNova Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I have a question. I know you said that you want fascist alliances as villains, but why just fascist alliances? Why not any other form of authoritarian theme? If you just want fascist alliances, then go somewhere’s else. They’re going to attract neo-Nazis and white nationalists who hide behind irony and humor to avoid criticism, radicalize others, and normalize Nazism in a community of conservatives, reactionaries, and “”“””enlightened””””” centrists that is ripe for it. I’m sorry, but I can’t tolerate fascism, even alliances with fascist themes. Also, if Mussolini was so anti-Semitic, why did he willingly worked with someone who slaughtered millions of Jews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, AwesomeNova said: I have a question. I know you said that you want fascist alliances as villains, but why just fascist alliances? Why not any other form of authoritarian theme? If you just want fascist alliances, then go somewhere’s else. They’re going to attract neo-Nazis and white nationalists who hide behind irony and humor to avoid criticism, radicalize others, and normalize Nazism in a community of conservatives, reactionaries, and “”“””enlightened””””” centrists that is ripe for it. I’m sorry, but I can’t tolerate fascism, even alliances with fascist themes. Also, if Mussolini was so anti-Semitic, why did he willingly worked with someone who slaughtered millions of Jews? I have a question too, why do you tolerate any kind of authoritarian theme but fascism? Even right now people are suffering because of communism in China. You cannot tell me what to do or not do. According to the game developer we can have fascist alliances. If you don't like that, you can just leave. Nazism is not tolerated in this game, so how can they normalize Nazism? You can say these stuff about communists too, that they are normalizing the crimes of Stalin and Mao and Pol pot and others. But you are just happy with them for unknown reasons. As I said, having fascist alliances adds flavor to the game. About Mussolini, the large parts of horrific aspects of anti-Semitism of Nazi Germany only became known after or near the end of WW2. Even Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh worked with Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonCloud Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Francoist said: I have a question too, why do you tolerate any kind of authoritarian theme but fascism? Even right now people are suffering because of communism in China. You cannot tell me what to do or not do. According to the game developer we can have fascist alliances. If you don't like that, you can just leave. Nazism is not tolerated in this game, so how can they normalize Nazism? You can say these stuff about communists too, that they are normalizing the crimes of Stalin and Mao and Pol pot and others. But you are just happy with them for unknown reasons. As I said, having fascist alliances adds flavor to the game. About Mussolini, the large parts of horrific aspects of anti-Semitism of Nazi Germany only became known after or near the end of WW2. Even Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh worked with Nazis. I m gonna be honest here, everyone is suffering, just in different ways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I agree, communist themes should be banned too. 1 1 2 Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Malleator said: I agree, communist themes should be banned too. I am not saying communists shouldn't be here, but since people tolerate communist alliances they should also tolerate fascist alliances too. It adds flavor to the game. It is not even against the game rules, but some people freak out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 If your so worked up about it start one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeNova Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Francoist said: I have a question too, why do you tolerate any kind of authoritarian theme but fascism? Even right now people are suffering because of communism in China. You cannot tell me what to do or not do. According to the game developer we can have fascist alliances. If you don't like that, you can just leave. Nazism is not tolerated in this game, so how can they normalize Nazism? You can say these stuff about communists too, that they are normalizing the crimes of Stalin and Mao and Pol pot and others. But you are just happy with them for unknown reasons. As I said, having fascist alliances adds flavor to the game. About Mussolini, the large parts of horrific aspects of anti-Semitism of Nazi Germany only became known after or near the end of WW2. Even Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh worked with Nazis. Who are you responding to: me, or an exaggerated strawman? If it’s the latter, then you’re troll or a fascist. You’re not worth being responded to if you’re going to argue in bad faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Viselli said: If your so worked up about it start one Don't have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew The Great Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The argument between Big Brother and Fancroist was fun, but uh... you're both right ig. Fascism is an offshoot of socialism, in the same way Nazism is an offshoot of Fascism. So if socialists get to distance themselves from Fascists, Fascists can distance themselves from Nazis. But every Non-Nazi Fascist Government was run by !@#$ too. Nazis weren't the only bad fascists. So no one should defend them either. Make a Fascist AA when you have the funds if you want, I don't have anything against it not being against the rules, but part of having a fascist OR communist theme is dealing with people whose sensibilities you've offended. 1 1 1 Blame Dan Schneider~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matthew The Great said: The argument between Big Brother and Fancroist was fun, but uh... you're both right ig. Fascism is an offshoot of socialism, in the same way Nazism is an offshoot of Fascism. So if socialists get to distance themselves from Fascists, Fascists can distance themselves from Nazis. But every Non-Nazi Fascist Government was run by !@#$ too. Nazis weren't the only bad fascists. So no one should defend them either. Make a Fascist AA when you have the funds if you want, I don't have anything against it not being against the rules, but part of having a fascist OR communist theme is dealing with people whose sensibilities you've offended. You are really logical, I wish others had your sensibility too, things that you said are correct. I don't say that fascism is good, but this ideology is an important part of politics and it should be in a political game, it also adds flavor to the game. Edited July 13, 2020 by Francoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I do agree, fascist alliances being perpetually rolled does add some flavour to the game. 2 2 Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hime-sama said: I do agree, fascist alliances being perpetually rolled does add some flavour to the game. You know Japanese that you love their manga and anime so much are overtly nationalist. Most of their prime ministers visit the Yasukuni temple regularly. They also deny the Nanking massacre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Francoist said: You know Japanese that you love their manga and anime so much are overtly nationalist. Most of their prime ministers visit the Yasukuni temple regularly. They also deny the Nanking massacre. Why are you going OOC, I thought you didn't believe in fascism and were only "roleplaying" as one? 😛 2 Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hime-sama said: Why are you going OOC, I thought you didn't believe in fascism and were only "roleplaying" as one? 😛 No, I was just saying that you are a perfect fit for my future alliance.😌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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