Popular Post Viselli Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 As mentioned in other threads throughout the years, and even drawn up by Alex, a black market where you can purchase military units would be beneficial to the game. A black market would add new strategies and activities. 1. You can sell units on the black market just like you can any other resource 2. Black market transactions are private, a new spy option would be added so you can uncover who nation's are purchasing from. 3. This would be a sink for resources. Instead of selling raw steel or aluminum sell your planes or tanks that you make with your resources. 4. This would make alliance wars have less warning in the buildup. Instead of taking a few days to build to max military you can purchase max military overnight. 5. In addition, with the new tiering requirements for war with the score changes, allies out of range can support you by selling units rather than actually fighting the war themselves. 6. You cannot buy more than the max you are already allowed to have and the manufacturing rates of units stay the same, if you sell units you lose them and have to remake them to keep your own military strong. Please feel free to add your own additions to this idea or critique what I have said, I might not have thought of everything. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew The Great Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I dig the concept, can’t see much room for exploitation that isn’t intended. Would make wars meme, have fun beating this guy that one of your fellow AA members accidentally sold tanks to. 2 Quote Blame Dan Schneider~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matthew The Great said: I dig the concept, can’t see much room for exploitation that isn’t intended. Would make wars meme, have fun beating this guy that one of your fellow AA members accidentally sold tanks to. Yes selling troops to people would make the alliance affiliations interesting. It could lead to further CBs or some of your own allies or people in your alliance selling troops to the people you are fighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 This is a terrible idea. Wars would no longer be won by strategy and grudge matches. Wars would be won by those with the deepest pockets. We're completely circumventing a huge part of the game (Day Changes) but we're also removing any form of gradual growth. By removing such an essentially strategic part of the game and adding an essential "Pay to Win" option you've given the game another reason as to why people break game rules and have multi-farms or RWT for Cash. While the idea is unique you'd be just giving fuel to rule breakers and promoting a sense of a "Mom's Card" play style, something that should not exist in a free-to-play game. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changeup Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I like it but there needs to be a cap on how much can be purchased from the Black Market in a day to avoid super-rich alliances suddenly buying an entire army 20 minutes before a blitz. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 You should only be able to buy some percent of your daily buy per day and require a project to buy/sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Changeup said: I like it but there needs to be a cap on how much can be purchased from the Black Market in a day to avoid super-rich alliances suddenly buying an entire army 20 minutes before a blitz. That is true a cap would limit the "pay to win" aspect. I didn't think it was needed as an alliance would have to coordinate buying the units at once and I assumed for an alliance the size of the top 20 there would not be enough supply for the demand. However I could be wrong. What type of cap would you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Should be like 10-15% of your daily rebuy. Any more then its too much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 hours ago, lightside said: Should be like 10-15% of your daily rebuy. Any more then its too much On top of the rebuy though right? Not instead of your rebuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Viselli said: On top of the rebuy though right? Not instead of your rebuy Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, lightside said: Yes Personally I think that is too low, maybe 25-50% of your max per day. It gives incentive to blockade to stop people using the black market, and right now ships are the most useless unit in the game. Edited May 17, 2020 by Viselli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Viselli said: Personally I think that is too low, maybe 25-50% of your max per day. It gives incentive to blockade to stop people using the black market, and right now ships are the most useless unit in the game. That is way way to much. It would make wars revolve around buying which doesn’t make sense. 15% is reasonable without it being op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeNova Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, lightside said: That is way way to much. It would make wars revolve around buying which doesn’t make sense. 15% is reasonable without it being op. You know that a player’s rebuy per day is proportional to the amount of cities and military improvements in their nation, right? A 10-city nation doesn’t have to buy as much as a 30-city nation. Also, an upper-tier nation can’t even downdeclare without selling their infra, since the ns per city doubled after the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, AwesomeNova said: You know that a player’s rebuy per day is proportional to the amount of cities and military improvements in their nation, right? A 10-city nation doesn’t have to buy as much as a 30-city nation. Also, an upper-tier nation can’t even downdeclare without selling their infra, since the ns per city doubled after the update. Exactly why it would be proportional to rebuy instead of a fixed number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 i feel like this was semi suggested b4 someone find the thread plz xP rawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, katashimon13 said: i feel like this was semi suggested b4 someone find the thread plz xP rawr I may or may not have suggested this 2-3 times now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The USA Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It is a good suggestion and should be implemented 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Viselli said: I may or may not have suggested this 2-3 times now it wasnt someone less lame? xP rawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, katashimon13 said: it wasnt someone less lame? xP rawr Unfortunately my dear rawr it was not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I would limit it to just missiles and nukes. Not the rest of military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightside Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Deulos said: I would limit it to just missiles and nukes. Not the rest of military. If anything it should be opposite. No nukes or missiles as buying them would be like doubling your rebuy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua-Corpsman Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 This would bring about a whole new kind of alliance that just supplies raiders. Like I said before, I love it. 1 Quote To whom it may concern, I do not represent The Immortals unless explicitly stated (ergo, never.)<--- I hardly use the forums anymore, add me on discord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 5 hours ago, lightside said: If anything it should be opposite. No nukes or missiles as buying them would be like doubling your rebuy. You're not making sense. Doesn't purchasing your military from the black market double your rebuy as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I don't dislike the idea and I wouldn't get mad or smth if it was implemented, it's just that i don't think this would really improve the game much gameplay wise. I think this would just mean that people now have a bigger rebuy (assuming the amount of troops that can be bought has a cap), but not really change anything or introduce smth new. Alex only has limited resources and and I would rather see Alex use those to implement mechanics that are new and make the game more engaging, like his UN concept for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 1 Edited February 18, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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