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32 minutes ago, AntMan said:

Currently, at maxed production, a city can make
1) 54 coal
2) 54 oil
3) 27 iron
4) 27 bauxite
5) 45 lead

6) 45 gas at the expense of 22.5 oil
7) 67.5 steel at the expense of 22.5 coal and 22.5 iron
8 ) 67.5 aluminum at the expense of 22.5 bauxite
9) 135 munitions at the expense of 45 lead

This means you can make all raws in-situ for your manufacturing needs. However, with the respective projects, you need more raws than you can produce. Plus, if you dont have the mines, you can produce two or three different manufactured rss at the same time which is a preferred by few. This means more raws are consumed than produced in most scenarios, making raws hella pricey. 

A very simple solution to this is increasing bonus on the production of raws to 75% while keeping the bonus of manufacturing to the current 50%.

This will create more raws for sale, decreasing price of raws, in turn decreasing price of refined. 
Plus, this will need way less coding I believe.
 

This should be absolutely implemented. The production bonus of raws should be increased.

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This is just a ploy to add more raw resources to the game to reduce current prices on the market, and thereby make manufacturing resources cheaper to buy from the market to the benefit of whale nations, who usually run at a deficit for creating manufactured. Even possibly nerfing the raw market all together with Whales (the main consumer of materials) not needing them at all as they become self sustainable, with more improvements to use on resources (as whales have high infra) . It's not a whale game, the market will repair itself over time when new players join adding more raw resources. Which is to their benefit if they are selling at a higher price, giving new players more of an incentive to use the market to sell surplus goods. 

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45 minutes ago, JordyHamsVII said:

This is just a ploy to add more raw resources to the game to reduce current prices on the market, and thereby make manufacturing resources cheaper to buy from the market to the benefit of whale nations, who usually run at a deficit for creating manufactured. Even possibly nerfing the raw market all together with Whales (the main consumer of materials) not needing them at all as they become self sustainable, with more improvements to use on resources (as whales have high infra) . It's not a whale game, the market will repair itself over time when new players join adding more raw resources. Which is to their benefit if they are selling at a higher price, giving new players more of an incentive to use the market to sell surplus goods. 

https://politicsandwar.com/world-graphs/graphID=14

 

If you take a scan through the raw charts, you will realize there is an issue with too many raw sinks. The raws are declining faster than the manuf is rising. This has nothing to do with whales benefiting from changes as you said... because let's face it, whales are the ones who can afford stuff in these markets. Good luck having 13 cities or so and buy a decent WC with your income, it will take months.

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1. How is 5 max Uranium mines any less-random than 3?

2. The main benefit I see is streamlining builds.

3. Since the # of raw slots increase, high-infra builds will be more-likely to be able to afford the slots to get to +50% production bonus than would others.

4. These changes will probably decrease raws prices (and manu prices down the road).

5. I don't see this negatively impacting smaller nations directly. I've never bought into the idea that new nations should produce raws and not manu, since the barrier to entry to producing manu is rather low (a cheap project), and since manu is less slot-restricted than raws production.

edit: "more slot-restricted" -> "less slot-restricted" bc sleepy

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Possibly for all raw ressources, boost lower city counts percentage buff e.g. a 5 city nation will have higher productivity per mine than a 10 city nation but overall output for the nation would be lower since it has half the actual mines. This should help alleviate the healthy inflation that stabilises economies.

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Alternatively, add inflation to the game as a function relative to market index and just adjust all costs and income by using said index. (So if market index sets the index to 105, infra would be 5% more expensive, refineries would cost 5% more, citizen income would go up 5% and so on)

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