Vali Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Alex will not get rid the wide spread cheaters in this game. As a community, we need to band together to draw a line in the sand. This is our community, instead of moaning about Alex not doing anything, how about we actually do something about it? Embargo every nation/ alliance that is harboring the cheaters As a person in a position of power, refuse to work with alliances harboring known cheaters Its not like this is a false accusation at this point. We know who they are. If we allow cheaters to get away scot free, what kind of precedent does that set for the future? Pledging to never ever be a cheater is not the same as actively hunting down cheaters. Do your part to take down the cheating establishments in this game, every act of protest is advancing the cause of making politics and war cheater free Edited April 21, 2020 by Di Vali 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Eriksen Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Alex is currently working on some Multi stuff, other then that he pretty much can figure out if something is being fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Or, because cheating at this point is looked at by some as an unforeseen "mechanic" of the game, we may just want to clean house. Maybe @Alex should start by properly looking into and properly banning the ban evaders that are coming into the game from GPWC. Or maybe that's a new scoop I can provide to Shifty... Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: Or, because cheating at this point is looked at by some as an unforeseen "mechanic" of the game, we may just want to clean house. Maybe @Alex should start by properly looking into and properly banning the ban evaders that are coming into the game from GPWC. Or maybe that's a new scoop I can provide to Shifty... Yes, spill the beans on all these alliaces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 As soon as I saw this post popping up in #owf-news, I knew it was made by Vali 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Eriksen Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: Or, because cheating at this point is looked at by some as an unforeseen "mechanic" of the game, we may just want to clean house. Maybe @Alex should start by properly looking into and properly banning the ban evaders that are coming into the game from GPWC. Or maybe that's a new scoop I can provide to Shifty... GPWC did nothing wrong though... NPO man bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Di Vali said: Alex will not get rid the wide spread cheaters in this game. As a community, we need to band together to draw a line in the sand. This is our community, instead of moaning about Alex not doing anything, how about we actually do something about it? Embargo every nation/ alliance that is harboring the cheaters As a person in a position of power, refuse to work with alliances harboring known cheaters Its not like this is a false accusation at this point. We know who they are. If we allow cheaters to get away scot free, what kind of precedent does that set for the future? Pledging to never ever be a cheater is not the same as actively hunting down cheaters. Do your part to take down the cheating establishments in this game, every act of protest is advancing the cause of making politics and war cheater free A true revolutionary. If you're so adamant about this. Why have you only embargoed one person named in the scandal? Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 1 Edited February 18, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conspiracy Theorist Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Kill them with fire! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT WASTING MY TIME OVER THIS? WHEN WILL YOU LEARN??? This has to come to a stop, and I will be where the buck stops. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namukara Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Do I need to make a pledge to stop fricking moralising? Seriously, moralising annoys me more than the cheating itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, namukara said: Do I need to make a pledge to stop fricking moralising? Seriously, moralising annoys me more than the cheating itself. Fine, do nothing. Everything we do from this point forward in this game is irrelevant if as a community we aren’t gonna take a stand against cheaters. It’s not moralizing. Alex admitted these parties cheated. We know the truth, we aren’t assuming these ppl are cheaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Young Guilo said: Or, because cheating at this point is looked at by some as an unforeseen "mechanic" of the game, we may just want to clean house. Maybe @Alex should start by properly looking into and properly banning the ban evaders that are coming into the game from GPWC. Or maybe that's a new scoop I can provide to Shifty... I'm interested in this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namukara Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Di Vali said: Fine, do nothing. Everything we do from this point forward in this game is irrelevant if as a community we aren’t gonna take a stand against cheaters. It’s not moralizing. Alex admitted these parties cheated. We know the truth, we aren’t assuming these ppl are cheaters. Planning on doing something about it? Unless you can get all the biggest whales to attack him (good look on getting rnr or wtf to join in) you're just shouting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) @namukara do you know how to read? I clearly stated the goal of this was to get ppl to embargo/ cut relations with cheaters. Do I look crazy posting shit trying to get ppl to take action against alliances harboring cheaters? sure but the bottom line is something has to be done. good day You don't seem to understand how politics work. If enough ppl get angry at cheaters, and alliances harboring them, eventually we breed an environment that it is not acceptable for an alliance to harbor cheaters, and any alliance doing so will be punished. Edited April 21, 2020 by Di Vali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namukara Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Di Vali said: @namukara do you know how to read? I clearly stated the goal of this was to get ppl to embargo/ cut relations with cheaters. Do I look crazy posting shit trying to get ppl to take action against alliances harboring cheaters? sure but the bottom line is something has to be done. good day You don't seem to understand how politics work. If enough ppl get angry at cheaters, and alliances harboring them, eventually we breed an environment that it is not acceptable for an alliance to harbor cheaters, and any alliance doing so will be punished. I'm sure CoA are trembling at your every word...rn your ability to recruit people for a mass embargo is looking about as effective at your skill in controlling arrgh during the last global. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, namukara said: I'm sure CoA are trembling at your every word...rn your ability to recruit people for a mass embargo is looking about as effective at your skill in controlling arrgh during the last global. youll see what happens in the end.... this will all end without a single bullet being fired, because most people I this game are good people who want to see player action to stop events like this this is not the first time Alex hasn't punished a cheater, and it won't be the last. But historically, the community has worked together to stop these people regardless of Alex's decisions. anywho, not in Arrgh anymore, but its a alliance with free members who do whatever they want, it was never my job to "control" them. And that same time frame was the most prosperous time for piracy in the games history, and I'm proud of all the contributions me and my friends made to that historical run Edited April 21, 2020 by Di Vali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Patiently waiting for Vali to embargo Clover Kingdom Quote Worst Poster Ever (2011) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 11:41 PM, Di Vali said: Alex will not get rid the wide spread cheaters in this game. As a community, we need to band together to draw a line in the sand. This is our community, instead of moaning about Alex not doing anything, how about we actually do something about it? Embargo every nation/ alliance that is harboring the cheaters As a person in a position of power, refuse to work with alliances harboring known cheaters Its not like this is a false accusation at this point. We know who they are. If we allow cheaters to get away scot free, what kind of precedent does that set for the future? Pledging to never ever be a cheater is not the same as actively hunting down cheaters. Do your part to take down the cheating establishments in this game, every act of protest is advancing the cause of making politics and war cheater free Which alliances do you suggest? Also, it is sort of hard to deal with cheaters when Alex befriends them. Prefontaine is a perfect example. Quote Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Buck Turgidson said: Which alliances do you suggest? Also, it is sort of hard to deal with cheaters when Alex befriends them. Prefontaine is a perfect example. First off, messing with you on discord and dunking on you in-game are in no way cheating, at least in terms of what Alex has jurisdiction over. Which is how it should be. Your drama is entirely your problem and not the administration's. Second, Alex was friends with and gave quite a bit of preferential treatment to a number of better examples... examples which have since been banned outright. Which rather undercuts your point, assuming you even had one and weren't just depositing salt over your childish drama with Pre. Third, presumably he's talking about Church of Atom. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sval Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: First off, messing with you on discord and dunking on you in-game are in no way cheating, at least in terms of what Alex has jurisdiction over. Which is how it should be. Your drama is entirely your problem and not the administration's. Second, Alex was friends with and gave quite a bit of preferential treatment to a number of better examples... examples which have since been banned outright. Which rather undercuts your point, assuming you even had one and weren't just depositing salt over your childish drama with Pre. Third, presumably he's talking about Church of Atom. You're forgetting the number one rule of politics: Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Every mishap is cheating or admin bias. Especially when it's not. 1 1 Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Turgidson Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: First off, messing with you on discord and dunking on you in-game are in no way cheating, at least in terms of what Alex has jurisdiction over. Which is how it should be. Your drama is entirely your problem and not the administration's. Second, Alex was friends with and gave quite a bit of preferential treatment to a number of better examples... examples which have since been banned outright. Which rather undercuts your point, assuming you even had one and weren't just depositing salt over your childish drama with Pre. Third, presumably he's talking about Church of Atom. Not childish drama - see the screens I posted in 1116 Days. Pre shared game developments and timing for insider trading buys many months ahead and kept tracking the timing. No crime occurred until his prognostications were proven true. You know, innocent until proven guilty. He is most definitely guilty, and this is only an instance that has come to the surface. I wonder how many other times he has done the same. I would argue that this is worse than anything that happened with CoA (I don't know the story), because it apparently remains undetected by most people, or at least denied. Yet the screens are there: he definitely abused his trust with @Alexand the rest of the P&W community. Ironically, he named his latest city 'Integrity' hahaha. If that is not a pantomime of a guilty conscience I don't know what is. 20 minutes ago, Sval said: You're forgetting the number one rule of politics: Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Every mishap is cheating or admin bias. Especially when it's not. In this case, however, there is undeniable proof. If you would like an invitation to the discord room where it happened, PM me and I will mask you. Quote Are you originally from Earth, too? Proud owner of Harry's goat. It's mine now. I now own MinesomeMC's goat, too. It's starting to look like a herd. Yep, it is a herd. Aldwulf has added his goat, too, and it ain't Irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sval Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 54 minutes ago, Buck Turgidson said: In this case, however, there is undeniable proof. If you would like an invitation to the discord room where it happened, PM me and I will mask you. I'm in enough overly-dramatic servers as is, thanks mate. 1 Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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