Popular Post Kastor Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 As an older member of the game, someone who has been here for several years, I want to say a few things. When NPO wasn't a major power, the game was fun, we had a little toxicity, but a lot of the game were friends and interested in each other, we joined other IRC's and discords, we were very fun and easy to play with. A lot of fun things went on and healthy competition. MensaHQ was kinda bad, but that was mostly TUGT and Pfieffer. Then NPO came, and soon slowly the game got worse and worse, NPO used PnW reasons to roll MI5(tS and Rose) and big things started happening. Suddenly, wars were no longer fights and then handshakes(with a few terms) it was now tiresome, month long fights that NPO would drag out so people wouldn't fight them. They started telling their members not to even join friendly servers(Lordaeron), and created a hostile regime. Funnily enough, I don't blame them, with the amount of hate they received for joining the community, but everyone was right, they tried to kill the game. They tried their hardest, even cheating to do it. I just want to say I'm excited for the future, but I want people to remember a few things: -Don't tax your members 100/100, their job as members of your alliance is to play the game and create a community within it, it isn't to give all their power and resources to you for you to play the game against 15 other people. -Feel free to explore new alliances, but only do it if you feel like you can strengthen your community. -Shorter, more frequent wars. Limit to 1-2 rounds, there is no need to pound alliances. -Let grudges die after 1-2 wars, don't have huge lasting rivalries against a portion of the game. -Reshuffle allies every 6-12 months, don't go into the year with the same people you ended the previous with. -Be open to working with people you normally wouldn't. -Bring back Paperless -Top tier alliances should refrain from allying each other and never impeding their growth. -Never serve your alliance as leader for more than 12-24 months. If you've been the leader for years, you're doing it wrong. -Stop signing massive amounts of treaties as deterrents. -Stop hitting Protectorates when you fight their protector. If you do these things, NPO or anyone like it can never come back. For the people on the other side, you constantly belittled the NPOsphere and forced them to create that ideology. The everyday members constantly having to fight you for years, for things that 3-5 people started. Going forward, the biggest thing to stop the previous few years is to: Let the past die. Going forward, stop holding onto grudges. Stop having the same people dictate everyone else going forward. You are not safer with treaties, and it only binds you into a section and a google doc with your nations list on it. Start to protect yourself and start to grow. Thats all I had to say, I know people will disagree, I know people will start plotting and getting a bunch of allies. But going forward, I hope some of these points are adopted, at least. 9 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosta Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Although I do not completely agree with everything. I have to say its well written, and speaks volumes. Edited February 19, 2020 by Kosta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denison Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 >Tmw paperless has already been brought back, smh 1 Quote Janny Larpers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messi Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 #BK&NPO&GoGDidNothingWrong 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymeier Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Messi said: #BK&NPO&GoGDidNothingWrong You mean Belka did nothing wrong ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justin076 Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 The whole taxing your members 100/100 and essentially having total utter control over every move they make in this game is quite frankly disgusting and develops into your NPO/BK alliances. What is the point of playing the game if your leadership consisting of 5 people have total control over you and your fellow alliance mates. NPO members were literally robots, they were farmed and instructed to log in and complete a task as instructed by their leadership. No independent thought, no way to develop into a government member or a influential member of this game. There's no reason alliances cannot have reasonable taxes where members can collectively contribute to helping smaller nations grow or saving up for a conflict. But indefinitely having total control over your entire memberships city building, infra building, improvement layout and resources is a bit much. Time that we off with this type of shit. 2 10 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 A lot also just boils to "Dont take it all too seriously and dont go overboard being a douchenozzle'. Also if you decide to be a douchenozzle, at least be a funny one. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, Kastor said: -Shorter, more frequent wars. Limit to 1-2 rounds, there is no need to pound alliances. I will concede NPO had a point to arguing against this one. This favors larger nations, a revamp of mechanics is needed if we ever want this to be possible and allow for a reasonably fair fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 tl;dr pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, Prefonteen said: A lot also just boils to "Dont take it all too seriously and dont go overboard being a douchenozzle'. Also if you decide to be a douchenozzle, at least be a funny one. Are you claiming to be funny? 3 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Nice post and it highlights a lot of important things. I'd like to add a few points to this though -Old players should join newer alliances to help them grow. This not only eases growth of these new micros but also gives them large amounts of exposure to what larger alliances would normally do. -Do not look down on micros. And do not try to kill them. Respect people who are trying to build up on their own small communities. -Respect everyone. Teach everyone. Learn from everyone. Dont use the "Join my alliance to know more". Teach them, impress them so that they willingly join your alliance. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveth Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tymeier said: You mean Belka did nothing wrong ; ) I do believe you mean Clarke did nothing wrong. Otherwise great post, though I disagree with a handful of points it does speak volumes. Edited February 19, 2020 by Daveth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, AntMan said: Nice post and it highlights a lot of important things. I'd like to add a few points to this though -Old players should join newer alliances to help them grow. This not only eases growth of these new micros but also gives them large amounts of exposure to what larger alliances would normally do. -Do not look down on micros. And do not try to kill them. Respect people who are trying to build up on their own small communities. -Respect everyone. Teach everyone. Learn from everyone. Dont use the "Join my alliance to know more". Teach them, impress them so that they willingly join your alliance. This, you can compete without destroying your competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Bates Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Well written and worded and I agree. Hope this opportunity doesn’t get squandered into a chance to set up two new mega spheres again. Maybe just maybe we will get a few smaller spheres out of this. Probably not, but we can hope. 1 1 Quote Secure. Contain. Protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kastor said: This, you can compete without destroying your competition. The point is You cant compete without competition. The more competition, the more fun the competition is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sval Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 The game would be better if we stop trying to tell each-other how to play it. 4 Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keegoz Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sval said: The game would be better if we stop trying to tell each-other how to play it. I feel like you telling others that they shouldn't tell you how to play the game, you're telling us how to play the game. 5 11 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sval Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Keegoz said: I feel like you telling others that they shouldn't tell you how to play the game, you're telling us how to play the game. Stop telling me how to tell others to play the game! Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Players have a choice in regards to an alliances tax structure. Some follow the 100/100, some dont’t. That should have nothing to do with the future of the game. Personally, it’s one of the better tax structures in this game because the leaders can reallocate resources in a timely manner where they’re needed most. But not everybody follows that, which is ok. Its all about trusting your leaders though. 1 3 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arawra Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 100/100 tax structures =/= inexperienced members. Telling your members to close themselves off from the community and telling them which actions to perform without insight will lead to being inexperienced and underdeveloped. Edited February 19, 2020 by Aether 7 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, AntMan said: Nice post and it highlights a lot of important things. I'd like to add a few points to this though -Old players should join newer alliances to help them grow. This not only eases growth of these new micros but also gives them large amounts of exposure to what larger alliances would normally do. -Do not look down on micros. And do not try to kill them. Respect people who are trying to build up on their own small communities. -Respect everyone. Teach everyone. Learn from everyone. Dont use the "Join my alliance to know more". Teach them, impress them so that they willingly join your alliance. Players shouldn't feel obligated to help a mirco get exposure. When you create a mirco you should be self aware. It's up to you to choose a nurturing protector and understand your limitations. We cannot create a culture for you nor should anyone hold your hand. Just don't be another Sean Anthony and learn from your mistakes. 2 Quote FORMER LEADER OF COTL. PLEASE GROW INTERNALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Aether said: Are you claiming to be funny? Are you calling me a douchenozzle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 >NPO ruined everything Remember how Shifty in classic BK warned about this? Once again, Shifty is right. Don't tax your members 100/100, their job as members of your alliance is to play the game and create a community within it, it isn't to give all their power and resources to you for you to play the game against 15 other people. True, but some members are never going to be more than tax farms. -Feel free to explore new alliances, but only do it if you feel like you can strengthen your community. Yeah, but alot of people are tied due to OoC friendships or simply other alliances aren't on par to actually be ally worthy. -Shorter, more frequent wars. Limit to 1-2 rounds, there is no need to pound alliances. How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man? -Let grudges die after 1-2 wars, don't have huge lasting rivalries against a portion of the game. Grudges/rematches are actually fun. -Reshuffle allies every 6-12 months, don't go into the year with the same people you ended the previous with. Again, not every alliance is worthy. -Be open to working with people you normally wouldn't. Not everyone gets along, oh well. -Bring back Paperless Yes -Top tier alliances should refrain from allying each other and never impeding their growth. Of course, they should be rivals. Allying is just weakness, hoping you can wait til the other alliance slowly dies before you. -Never serve your alliance as leader for more than 12-24 months. If you've been the leader for years, you're doing it wrong. I've been saying this for years. It's always the same people creating the same plots and wars. Why I started SNN, to sabotage that. -Stop signing massive amounts of treaties as deterrents. Those used to be a good meme and looked down upon. Agreed. -Stop hitting Protectorates when you fight their protector. Nah, that's some delicious salt and drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Prefonteen said: Are you calling me a douchenozzle? Mebe 1 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rygus Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Kastor said: Bring back Paperless KT is already way ahead of you, princess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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