Lalaion Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Can't believe this is what made me create an account, but grats on being a weasel and killing your own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alex said: That's not true. It's trivial for me to sum up the tax records for GPWC nations, you can see for yourself: Calculating resource values: Alex, this literally proves *nothing* except that GPWC produces a lot of taxes. 1 ONE WORLD OR NONE CyberNations veteran, Co-Pilot Emeritus Hambassidor (Head Ambassador (Minister of Foreign Affairs)), Head of the Ministry of Log Dumping, GOONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finster Baby Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 CN Admin: *Does something stupid* Alex: Hold my beer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted February 5, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, George Clooney said: Too bad none of that actually proves a rules violation. I wasn't responding to a claim about whether their was a violation or not (there was), this was a claim that the $850m / day figure was incorrect. Just now, JT Jag said: Alex, this literally proves *nothing* except that GPWC produces a lot of taxes. It was a response to a claim that they were not, in fact, generating $850m / day in taxes for NPO's offshore bank. 1 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, King Olafr of the Faroes said: The entire fricking case was laid out for you Alex. This is literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen ANYONE do in ANY game I've EVER played. What if I tell you, that BK has a channel that is only accessible if you're active every day in P&W, where there's lots of cat pictures? You gonna ban BK too? WE HAZ CAT PICTURZ! I believe the point of contention is that cat pictures have no real monetary value to them. What they were being given in GPWC did, and may not have been attainable, or easily attainable otherwise. I haven't actually looked at the evidence myself yet so I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of anything. Still processing the shock of seeing most of NPO gov get struck down... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Divinum Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 For those complaining Alex is bring too (lol) rough: How does it feel to be completely dependent on a guy who trades copyrighted manga for illicit advantage in a nation sim game? 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Limbuwan Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 The punishment is too soft tbh. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Alex said: Senry asked me in November (in a conversation I didn't think much about) what my "gut reaction" would be to a situation similar to this one. He did not state that it was actually happening (and had been by that point for 2 months.) I did not "okay" anything, or know that they were trading access to manhwa for people who had no interest in the game setting up tax farming nations and literally being told not to play the game. I've played a lot of games in my time, but I have to admit, I've never seen an idiot as large as you with a heavier hand than you. Shame on you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Olafr of the Faroes Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I'd just like to add, that despite they're "on my side", I don't actually agree with how the Guinea Pig Farm thing was set up. But Alex okay'ed it, the least he could do is reach out to the same people who reached out to him and tell them that he's decided it's not alright and that changes (or whatever) needs to be made. This is like telling everyone it's OK to light bonfires, then you find out fire might spread and it's dangerous, so you make it illegal and then punish everyone who's had a bonfire previously... Jeeez. 4 "Don't argue with members of The Golden Horde. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Probably someone on OWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codonian Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alex said: Senry asked me in November (in a conversation I didn't think much about) what my "gut reaction" would be to a situation similar to this one. He did not state that it was actually happening (and had been by that point for 2 months.) I did not "okay" anything, or know that they were trading access to manhwa for people who had no interest in the game setting up tax farming nations and literally being told not to play the game. I'm one of the few that have seen the most recent conversation you held with NPO in it's entirety, you handled the situation piss poor when it was CLEAR that he was asking you originally if that would be fine, to which you said it would be a mechanics issue, not a moderation one. You're the god damn admin of the game, your gut reaction should be your official stance. Edited February 5, 2020 by Codonian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 What a way to kill a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Batavus Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alex said: ITT: Lots of people who haven't read the full report yet. So NPO invites 1000+ players to be farmed, in exchange for Manga. Explicitly against the rules. With this, you get $856.8 million per day...for ages... and lord knows how much more you got from those farms. You use those countless billions to fund an endless war.... And now you are complaining it's bad that he ends this massive cheat? Don't you understand the game rules? Or don't they apply to you? 1 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godwinson Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sigma said: Quick ideas off my mind: so as long as your associated with a known cheater you should be banned. Yet u reversed ur policy on that for @blink. U ignored slot filling, but come after this? Nice impartialness. I can tell you know nothing about Alex's 'policy' on the game. Blink was punished even though he shouldn't have been punished: he had played the game for a long time and benefited from nothing yet his nation was deleted. Speaking about what you know about would help make what you say more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vali Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) tl:dr Colorized Ediition!! IQ man view on Sheepy Coalition A Sorry, had to burrow for meme purposes. Edited February 5, 2020 by Di Vali 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcrum Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Thank you 1 2016/04/26 – Unreleased Bad Company advert, circa 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sisyphus Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, King Olafr of the Faroes said: The entire fricking case was laid out for you Alex. This is literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen ANYONE do in ANY game I've EVER played. What if I tell you, that BK has a channel that is only accessible if you're active every day in P&W, where there's lots of cat pictures? You gonna ban BK too? WE HAZ CAT PICTURZ! A content creator exercising out-of-game influence for in-game rewards is exactly what that rule is in place for. If BK was exercising influence by withholding or offering access to those cat pictures unless someone outside of this game signed up and played and did so according to BK's expectations then, yes, I imagine BK would face similar consequences. 8 One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaurg Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alex said: That's not true. It's trivial for me to sum up the tax records for GPWC nations, you can see for yourself: Calculating resource values: What percentage of GWPC’s wealth went to NPO, you moron? Because internal transactions not counting any out of alliance bank transactions were literally 10 times the GWPC- NPO bank transactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Wish NPO and GPWC a speedy recovery from this shame, btw. Roq can still lead in the shadows, of course. Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Olafr of the Faroes Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Akuryo said: I believe the point of contention is that cat pictures have no real monetary value to them. What they were being given in GPWC did, and may not have been attainable, or easily attainable otherwise. I haven't actually looked at the evidence myself yet so I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of anything. Still processing the shock of seeing most of NPO gov get struck down... Without knowing the "field", I'm entirely sure you can find anything you want on the interwebs. The difference here sounds like someone just did the job. "Don't argue with members of The Golden Horde. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Probably someone on OWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Riddle Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 @Alex Thanks for the good moderation. 1 ^ NO LONGER^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted February 5, 2020 Author Administrators Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, King Olafr of the Faroes said: The entire fricking case was laid out for you Alex. This is literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen ANYONE do in ANY game I've EVER played. What if I tell you, that BK has a channel that is only accessible if you're active every day in P&W, where there's lots of cat pictures? You gonna ban BK too? WE HAZ CAT PICTURZ! Even the timing of that screenshot doesn't make sense - GPWC was formed in August, that screenshot is from November. Aside from the fact that it's vague and does not state what specifically was going on in GPWC (and had been for 2 months), asking for permissions for breaking the rules after the fact isn't okay either. 1 8 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leopold von Habsburg Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just despicable of NPO but with their conduct these past few months this doesnt even surprise me that they would stoop to such levels to win the game. While i have some reservations on the leniency taken here, I am appreciative that action was taken on the lying, cheating perpetrators of this despicable action. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfBlueBears Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Alex: Deletes shit from NPO Also Alex: Lemme tell you how much they have left and where to find it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinum Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Leopold von Habsburg said: Just despicable of NPO but with their conduct these past few months this doesnt even surprise me that they would stoop to such levels to win the game. While i have some reservations on the leniency taken here, I am appreciative that action was taken on the lying, cheating perpetrators of this despicable action. *lying, cheating, and salty cheating perpetrators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Olafr of the Faroes Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sisyphus said: A content creator exercising out-of-game influence for in-game rewards is exactly what that rule is in place for. If BK was exercising influence by withholding or offering access to those cat pictures unless someone outside of this game signed up and played and did so according to BK's expectations then, yes, I imagine BK would face similar consequences. We have cat pictures you can't see 'cause you're not BK. HAH! "Don't argue with members of The Golden Horde. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Probably someone on OWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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