Popular Post Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2019 No offense to anyone currently involved in the awards, but they are trash. Long story short time: Every year everyone cries about these awards bc you have the alliances with a ton of people just throwing their own people/alliance in there. People who actually fit within those chosen categories just get pushed to the side with the quantity of bias votes. (quick disclaimer I don't give a shit about these awards). My idea is simple, fair, and puts the work on the alliances vs a multitude of individuals. Here's how it works: I provide you with a card of categories (just like every year) You take it to your alliance. As an alliance you discuss with each other, whoever the hell is active in your discord/forums to figure out who best fits each category (from OUTSIDE your alliance) You fill out your card and submit it back to me. For those of you not following that is 1 card filled out PER alliance that is participating. For those of you that didn't catch it, you only get to choose items from OUTSIDE your alliance - not your own damn shit. With very few cards created from legitimate alliances through Orbis, nominations are in and we can beginning the voting process. NO circle jerks. NO quantity voting. NO self voting to promote your ego. If you're interested in this, let me know. If you would prefer to stick with the yearly circle jerk that is the Orbis Awards, I prefer no lube. Thanks 5 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roq Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm down if you are Mad Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, CitrusK said: I'm down if you are Mad Max. Just to be clear - no lube or the actual awards idea? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roq Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Mad Max said: Just to be clear - no lube or the actual awards idea? Do I even have to answer? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 So micros have the same weight to their votes as giant alliances? That seems like it'll be inaccurate too. I think we should just beg the people who usually run the awards to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARPER.txt Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Saxon here- I am the best Raider, Fighter and most controversial , LIGMA if you think I'm wrong kthxbye ❤️ 1 1 Quote -SAXON- -Warband Leader of the Nordic Sea Raiders- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, ComradeMilton said: So micros have the same weight to their votes as giant alliances? That seems like it'll be inaccurate too. I think we should just beg the people who usually run the awards to come back. If I read it right, that's for nominations, not votes. @Mad Max, is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 That doesn't really help address the issue, even if it's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, ComradeMilton said: That doesn't really help address the issue, even if it's the case. It actually does - but I mean feel free to offer your own idea, which you wont, bc you have no idea, y'all just live to troll. Its ok - enjoy your Christmas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 So a one-personal alliance's vote has he same weight as TKR's? And that fixes something? My idea is as it's been done before this year's abortion because it worked. sweet bitterness, there Max. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ComradeMilton said: So a one-personal alliance's vote has he same weight as TKR's? And that fixes something? My idea is as it's been done before this year's abortion because it worked. sweet bitterness, there Max. Not a vote, a series of nominations. Then everyone votes on the nominations. He's going for more measured poll options and keeping popular votes, if I understand him right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Princess Adrienne said: If I read it right, that's for nominations, not votes. @Mad Max, is that right? The idea would be to have the community produce ideas for categories right? Its a community award. >community offers ideas on categories (can keep the split of player/community if you'd like) >community votes on those ideas >top x amount categories become usable for noms. >cats go to singular alliances for noms (alliances that are real, not offshores, training alliances, etc - actual core alliances) >rep from that alliance will deliver that card to the thread - not to me personally bc I want Alliance noms to remain in the public view. >rep says 'i'm from IRONFRONT here's our noms' (everyone does that shit so I know what alliance you're repping) >as for rules, prob should be a gov member to be sure its a proper rep and not some comrademilton type person coming in and fricking shit up. Prob should have a rule that says I'll confirm with the alliance leadership that this is your rep. >once each rep drops their cat cards in by the cutoff, all nominations are counted, and voting begins right here on the forums bc I'd like to keep it as open as possible. I dont know why I used > instead of - but i mean ok. This system I am taking from 1st grade elementary school when we decided which was the best ice cream and cookie flavors. We took them back to our class and each class decided then produced their noms which was then voted on by the individual person in a voting booth. Edited December 24, 2019 by Mad Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 That sounds awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ComradeMilton said: That sounds awful. Ok. Dont' participate. lol Edited December 24, 2019 by Mad Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Nah, we'll just have a normal awards system like we've had in the past. We know what categories go into it. We can pull lists for nominees or let the nominees be nominated by the players. And someone more competent will run them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ComradeMilton said: Nah, we'll just have a normal awards system like we've had in the past. We know what categories go into it. We can pull lists for nominees or let the nominees be nominated by the players. And someone more competent will run them. So we complain about the awards system - a fair system comes into play where the community decides everything - but we still lean back on the awards that peopel continue to complain about. MAKES SENSE! You do realize in my idea - and I'm not sure if I need to like drop down a few pegs to explain it better, If I do please let me know - but the community decides the nomination categories. I'd likely see the same types + the additional (see micchan ideas) that actually are relatable to the game. Plus dropping some of those ones that nobody actually gives a shit about. The nominations for these would go back to alliances to actually rally around something meaningful vs your argument of complaining about TKR getting all the nominations or say GOONS for example. Nomination voting is then open to the public with people nominated by the public outside of yanking on your own dick for awards. Also, see OP - I could give 2 shits about the awards they are a circle jerk every year this year they just don't have kastor doing shady shit like he always wants. This is an idea to stir the pot, I am sorry I ruined your Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mad Max said: So we complain about the awards system - a fair system comes into play where the community decides everything - but we still lean back on the awards that peopel continue to complain about. MAKES SENSE! You do realize in my idea - and I'm not sure if I need to like drop down a few pegs to explain it better, If I do please let me know - but the community decides the nomination categories. Also, see OP - I could give 2 shits about the awards they are a circle jerk every year this year they just don't have kastor doing shady shit like he always wants. This is an idea to stir the pot, I am sorry I ruined your Christmas. So.... 1. This has produced an epic amount of complaints in comparison to previous Kastor-run systems. 2. The categories listed are the same as those used earlier. 3. You really seem to care. You're posting and responding like someone about to get voted out of Survivor. 4. You're irrelevant to my Christmas. You're trying to be condescending because my argument makes sense and yours doesn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ComradeMilton said: So.... 1. This has produced an epic amount of complaints in comparison to previous Kastor-run systems. 2. The categories listed are the same as those used earlier. 3. You really seem to care. You're posting and responding like someone about to get voted out of Survivor. 4. You're irrelevant to my Christmas. You're trying to be condescending because my argument makes sense and yours doesn't. I'm sorry you're sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mad Max said: I'm sorry you're sad. I care about this year's awards just as much as any other. I don't even like Kastor and can admit he was immeasurably better than this year's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, ComradeMilton said: I care about this year's awards just as much as any other. I don't even like Kastor and can admit he was immeasurably better than this year's. k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 1 Edited February 18, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard J Crabs Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) I have a better idea, let's go with the democratic vote and allow one person, one vote. If you think democracy is unfair, welcome to the reason we're communists. Any attempt to disenfranchise the people's vote will be met with revolt. Edited December 24, 2019 by Leonard J Crabs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maia Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I don't mind have some competition with official awards. But with other unique way to choose the winners. Personally I would love to see a small group of experianced players who decide who should win this year. But with explanation why. In official votes doesn't really see it. It's my two cents. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Leonard J Crabs said: I have a better idea, let's go with the democratic vote and allow one person, one vote. If you think democracy is unfair, welcome to the reason we're communists. Any attempt to disenfranchise the people's vote will be met with revolt. This makes 0 sense. but thank you for participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard J Crabs Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Mad Max said: This makes 0 sense. but thank you for participating. much like your posting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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