Sketchy Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, AppealDenied said: This video is from CyberNations? And? You've tried to do it in this game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannaH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, ArcKnox said: I want to clarify that I was referring to anything that I specifically posted. I take no responsibility for the content of the raw logs. Thanks for clarifying. 2 Quote ~*HannaH*~ The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: This video is from CyberNations? What does that have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astryl Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Fwiw, GOONS can't / doesn't force anyone to do anything. We provide options to receive peace ingame along with a comedy option; if someone chooses the comedy option, there's nothing we can do about it. 6 13 Quote Queen of Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: Fwiw, GOONS can't / doesn't force anyone to do anything. We provide options to receive peace ingame along with a comedy option; if someone chooses the comedy option, there's nothing we can do about it. Provide an example of the usual terms provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: Fwiw, GOONS can't / doesn't force anyone to do anything. We provide options to receive peace ingame along with a comedy option; if someone chooses the comedy option, there's nothing we can do about it. Mate when kids are involved you can't pretend it's the same as doing it to a 22 year old who actually has full mental capacity to comprehend what they're doing and actually make an informed decision. Peer pressure doesn't force anybody to do anything, it just gives a choice wherein one is heavily weighted to be considered 'wrong'. Don't give a damn if it's to adults, but there's no defense for kids, there's never a defense for that sort of behavior towards kids. 1 minute ago, Charles the Tyrant said: Provide an example of the usual terms provided. I'm in GOONS server, it's usually 1. Write some sort of comic about whatever they say 2. An essay of 800 word on whatever topic they choose 3. The weird food thing 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcKnox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Quote Roquentin10/13/2019, 8:29:49 PM well dfnj and others started out as posers in like 2008 underlordgc10/13/2019, 8:29:55 PM i thought pw goons had almost no affiliation with sa Roquentin10/13/2019, 8:29:58 PM but tehy eventually got accounts for e-cred Roquentin10/13/2019, 8:30:07 PM well they were moslty initially people from CN goons 2.0 >but they eventually got accounts for e-cred Quote Praise Dio. Every !@#$ing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 1 Edited February 18, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Mate when kids are involved you can't pretend it's the same as doing it to a 22 year old who actually has full mental capacity to comprehend what they're doing and actually make an informed decision. Peer pressure doesn't force anybody to do anything, it just gives a choice wherein one is heavily weighted to be considered 'wrong'. Don't give a damn if it's to adults, but there's no defense for kids, there's never a defense for that sort of behavior towards kids. I'm in GOONS server, it's usually 1. Write some sort of comic about whatever they say 2. An essay of 800 word on whatever topic they choose 3. The weird food thing Thanks for the summary, I'd still like to see an actual example though since the topics themselves could be rather humiliating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, HannaH said: This has already been addressed. If you find specific instances, @ArcKnox has said to let him know and he will be more than happy to remove any that were overlooked. No it hasn't. If you take a walk through the raw logs, you'll find plenty of OOC convos and RL information from myself and others posted in a private channel. Archknox has posted only IC excerpts, which is fine, but in no way excuses the fact that a bunch of people are apparently fine with spreading around unscrubbed logs with personal details in them as long as they also have Roq saying mean things about KETOG and Chaos. Thanks though, I hope a few weeks of shitting on IQ is worth this. 1 3 2 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: Fwiw, GOONS can't / doesn't force anyone to do anything. We provide options to receive peace ingame along with a comedy option; if someone chooses the comedy option, there's nothing we can do about it. A child is much more susceptible to stupid ideas than a normal person is. Especially if there's an element of duress due to the in-game trouble. The kid was dumb for eating the cat/dog food but pressuring him into it was wrong. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astryl Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Charles the Tyrant said: Thanks for the summary, I'd still like to see an actual example though since the topics themselves could be rather humiliating. Quote So, to receive peace from GOONS, you must complete one of the following tasks. Failure to complete a task will earn you a spot on our enemy of GOONS list. However upon completion you will be rewarded with peace and a 30 day NAP between yourself and GOONS as an entity, completion of all three will qualify you for consideration into our great alliance. 1. Write and sing a pirate shanty of the great goon sinking of Arrgh. Must be entertaining/Funny and uploaded as either a video or mp3. 2. An 800 word essay on why stealing fizzy lifting drinks should have been a criminal offense, this will be graded by GOONS membership. 3. Create a 9 panel MSPaint on when, exactly, you realized Arrgh was a trash fire, and what you would give to have that part of your life back. 4. Comedy Option Eat an orange, without peeling it, on video for our entertainment. This was posted at some point. 1 4 Quote Queen of Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Marx Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 When was this game's name changed to "Cybernations"? ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannaH Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, TheNG said: No it hasn't. If you take a walk through the raw logs, you'll find plenty of OOC convos and RL information from myself and others posted in a private channel. Archknox has posted only IC excerpts, which is fine, but in no way excuses the fact that a bunch of people are apparently fine with spreading around unscrubbed logs with personal details in them as long as they also have Roq saying mean things about KETOG and Chaos. Thanks though, I hope a few weeks of shitting on IQ is worth this. Yes, I misread what he was saying. Thankfully Arcknox was kind enough to clarify for me. If there is indeed OOC content (I have been unable to read them in their entirety as they are extensive), I would like to echo Cooper's request that they be scrubbed of OOC content before being re-released. 1 Quote ~*HannaH*~ The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: This was posted at some point. It's pretty pathetic that you feel the need to subject a defeated foe to humiliation before granting peace. The terms aren't as bad as I was suspecting but yeah, still on the pathetic side of things. Not that my opinion will matter to you naturally. Edited December 5, 2019 by Charles the Tyrant 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Exar Kun -George Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2019 hey Guys, So a update, as i played a part in this firstly want to take some responsibility. I am sorry that any personal information got out, it was never my intention. I should have read through the chats before giving them to anyone, sorry to everyone involved. On that note as soon as i was linked to this, i requested the paste be deleted via the report feature, it was taking a while so I just messaged them on discord after looking around the site and seeing they have one. https://prnt.sc/q6ek37 . The post has been removed. I ask that anyone with copies delete them, dont share them or anything, just toss them in the trash. Censored logs will come out as soon as they can be looked through for all the ooc stuff and have it removed / redacted. It may take a few days as i will be having a few people check them (people who already saw the entire logs). Once again, sorry to everyone involved, it was never my intention to leak OOC stuff. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Far from being a punishment, in truth a lot of people come to enjoy the mercy board. In other worlds, people who did the mercy board wound up joining GOONS. It is the purest form of creativity, purely voluntary, and an absolute riot. It is one of the defining aspects of our culture. It is not violence we seek, it is entertainment. I had my worries about transitioning to a discord version of the process, but I'm happy to report we have had great successes already, and I eagerly await what's in store next. 4 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Marx Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 All the pearl clutching from TGH and KT is fairly rich. You're not in a position to have an opinion that matters anymore. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 All I saw was we are doing face reveals. Wheres THAT thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sardonic said: Far from being a punishment, in truth a lot of people come to enjoy the mercy board. In other worlds, people who did the mercy board wound up joining GOONS. It is the purest form of creativity, purely voluntary, and an absolute riot. It is one of the defining aspects of our culture. It is not violence we seek, it is entertainment. I had my worries about transitioning to a discord version of the process, but I'm happy to report we have had great successes already, and I eagerly await what's in store next. Keep your "culture" to yourselves. 4 minutes ago, Comrade Marx said: All the pearl clutching from TGH and KT is fairly rich. You're not in a position to have an opinion that matters anymore. Maybe we also need to latch onto the teat of a larger benefactor in order to be relevant? Nah, we will pass. We will leave such things to the likes of you. Edited December 5, 2019 by Charles the Tyrant 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Partisan Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: Fwiw, GOONS can't / doesn't force anyone to do anything. We provide options to receive peace ingame along with a comedy option; if someone chooses the comedy option, there's nothing we can do about it. Hi! This is an out-of-game forum, so I'm going to respond to you as a human being who gives multiple shits about the well-being of other human beings—sorry if this is an unfamiliar concept to you, I can break it down further if necessary—rather than as an emotionless nation-sim player. I think everybody, regardless of the coalition they are in, can agree that your response to these accusations is both heartless and appalling. A few forum posters presented evidence of you goading players as young as 11 into posting demeaning videos of themselves that expose their IRL faces and thus open themselves up to entire worlds of persistent harassment. Rather than denying the charges, you took pride in having pressured multiple such young and inexperienced players into such ridiculously extreme tasks in exchange for a bit of in-game leeway. Even if these players have personally wronged you in-game, I cannot imagine how you could possibly believe that a self-recording of eating animal food is any way a suitable consequence for their actions. Someone mentioned earlier that it's different pressuring minors vs pressuring adults into these acts. I frankly disagree. It does not matter whether your target is a pre-teen still figuring out how consequences work or an emotionally mature adult that understands the significance of uploading such a degrading video. Every player you encounter deserves to be treated with some minimal level of respect and human decency, and your actions have quite vividly shown that the concept of decency is one you don't subscribe to. Furthermore, it's not just a CN thing that you've left behind in your past. There's proof you've tried to coerce players actively involved in the P&W community into recording similarly humiliating tasks in exchange for the end of this global. I don't care how much pixel damage they've caused you or even if they took your offer seriously, the fact that you suggested this as a realistic path to peace (and have gone forward with executing it countless times in the past) is evidence enough of how severely damaged your mind must be. I'm not a fan of OOC insults, and unlike your coalition's leaders I do not wish my enemies to leave the game. However, I genuinely believe that you're a horrid person and that this community, however flawed, would be better without you. 9 26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancemasterlee Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 All the garbage crying about the mercy-board, happen to be the same ones that have no issue with rampant racism,homophobia,trans-phobia etc and many cases promote it etc I wonder why. alas the mercyboard is going no-where 2 22 Quote Specialist in buttes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, dancemasterlee said: All the garbage crying about the mercy-board, happen to be the same ones that have no issue with rampant racism,homophobia,trans-phobia etc and many cases promote it etc I wonder why. alas the mercyboard is going no-where Got any evidence to back up such a wild accusation? We can wait. Also, it's nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancemasterlee Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Im not wasting my time providing a nobody with any evidence, especially a micro that's on its way out. 1 1 21 Quote Specialist in buttes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joi Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Isn't the minimum age of this game 13? There shouldn't be 11-year olds participating in these sorts of shenanigans at all in the first place. Furthermore, if someone would rather eat an unpeeled orange on camera instead of writing an essay or doodling a comic or singing a song, that's on them. From what I'm reading here there is no coercion for people to take the "easy but humiliating" option, and yet people seem to line up for it anyway. 3 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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