Kastor Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 For the record, according to the logs of other channels, these terms haven’t been presented and there are more terms. This was just the easiest to release to you at this time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Coalition A: "We want different wars, not the same sides" Coalition B: "Here have 12 months NAP so we dont have to have the same sided wars for a year" Coalition A: ? thats ridiculous. Personally the terms aren't really that ridiculous and as Hodor says everything always starts at the extreme and gets negotiated. So... let's allow negotiation? But also, I think that your parody would be true except for the enormous amount of bad blood and paranoia bred by this war. First step to getting over that would be to actually work towards peace in good faith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr James Wilson Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Marxalot said: "We will never accept peace! We have them right where we want them!" - This guy, Dec 2019 Uh, that’s not what he said? 11 4 Quote The Volleyball Avanti Immortali ..one, two, Jimmy's coming for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astryl Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hodor said: So... let's allow negotiation? But also, I think that your parody would be true except for the enormous amount of bad blood and paranoia bred by this war. First step to getting over that would be to actually work towards peace in good faith. I'm fairly certain that "here are the terms, lets talk about them" is a negotiation. Then again, context is hard for some people. 8 Quote Queen of Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Bismarck II Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I guess the war is never ending then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cypher Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: I'm fairly certain that "here are the terms, lets talk about them" is a negotiation. Then again, context is hard for some people. It’s not “here are terms, let’s talk about them” it’s “here’s a term, now either agree with them or we won’t show you the next one and we’ll drag the war even further” Again, if you have no clue as to what’s actually going on in the broader picture, it’s better to remain quiet than to come off as a fool. 1 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveth Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Kastor said: For the record, according to the logs of other channels, these terms haven’t been presented and there are more terms. This was just the easiest to release to you at this time. Imagine having to wait for the terms to be leaked so that "negotiations" can go forward somehow. Edited December 2, 2019 by Daveth 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Sphinx said: Just want to point out you don't know any of the contexts behind what people wanted. I wont speak for UPN, but TCW had a member who left owing us money who joined Soup, we intend to reclaim that debt which is a pretty standard measure. Thanks for validating the logs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majima Goro Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, Marxalot said: I like that a tiny amount of reparations is considered "outrageous peace terms" that are "destroying the game" Keep fighting the good fight! 29 minutes ago, Marxalot said: "We will never accept peace! We have them right where we want them!" - This guy, Dec 2019 Last time I checked, it was a guy with a 0 military who stole some 4.5b in a war and not some inflated fat duck. People who decide stuff by metrics are the dumbest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talia Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Nobody going to say anything about how it took two weeks from the start of negotiations for them to start discussing the language of Article 4 of 10? Obviously must be opposition meddling to delay negotiations. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxalot Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AntMan said: Last time I checked, it was a guy with a 0 military who stole some 4.5b in a war and not some inflated fat duck. People who decide stuff by metrics are the dumbest. I can't believe the KORCHIC coalition lost the war because someone stole 4.5b. Better luck next time. Also something about ducks I guess. Edited December 2, 2019 by Marxalot 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, AppealDenied said: I'm fairly certain that "here are the terms, lets talk about them" is a negotiation. Then again, context is hard for some people. Bruh. This is the first time we've seen anything outside of Term 1. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 “All Chaos Bloc Alliances of Anti-Memesphere must include a statement recognizing that their CB was outdated and therefore invalid” This one was the funniest to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 of 10, none of which were presented 12 month nap 'we can raid with impunity you're not allowed to defend yourselves' The church condemns these actions.The very thought of them is heinous and sinful. May Atom forgive you and have mercy on your soul. Change your ways, repent, and be graceful in victory, do not let your soul be condemned to the nothingness that surrounds our universe. For those who were present in this discussion and previous ones in which the leadership of BK, NPO, Acadia, and UPN concludes the disbandments and didn't speak up, shame on you! We are dissappointed in you. You should have the courage to speak out against such evil and sin! To not stand against evil, is to take part in it! Do not so easily condemn your souls to nothinginess! Speak out! May Atom have mercy on your soul. 1 1 4 Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Micchan Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 So I read the post and "oh Kastor you funny guy" Then I read the thread and "wait, are these real?" I bet article 10 is "delete all your nations" 20 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Micchan said: I bet article 10 is "delete all your nations" They'll do it the hard way or they'll do it the easy way. 1 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post namukara Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 59 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Coalition A: "We want different wars, not the same sides" Coalition B: "Here have 12 months NAP so we dont have to have the same sided wars for a year" Coalition A: ? thats ridiculous. Personally the terms aren't really that ridiculous and as Hodor says everything always starts at the extreme and gets negotiated. I read the 12 month NAP as 'we really want a free run at farksphere, you're not allowed to help while we try and push another alliance out of the game.' 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbas Mehdi Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Marxalot said: I like that a tiny amount of reparations is considered "outrageous peace terms" that are "destroying the game" Keep fighting the good fight! Considering we have enough money around and goodwill to help grow and support new communities like yours to transition into this game, I think we are doing impeccably well. But hey to each his own. 1 Quote I am not a member of Guardian p&w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, namukara said: I read the 12 month NAP as 'we really want a free run at farksphere, you're not allowed to help while we try and push another alliance out of the game.' Imagine literally being given the NAP you want and deciding it's actually bad because ~what if~ jesus christ. "These terms are ~unreasonable~" woah it's almost like the side that loses will have to swallow some bad pills who'd have guessed that's how war works??? 1 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancemasterlee Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 We can always continue the war for another year or so. 2 5 Quote Specialist in buttes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiloist II Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I messaged Bangas for you @Sphinx I’ll let you know what he says as soon as he rerolls a nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namukara Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Archibald said: Imagine literally being given the NAP you want and deciding it's actually bad because ~what if~ jesus christ. "These terms are ~unreasonable~" woah it's almost like the side that loses will have to swallow some bad pills who'd have guessed that's how war works??? It's almost like you don't know who you're responding to. I'm from Farksphere. The only NAP involving us was one I was massively opposed to. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hope Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) >leaving a coalition you dont want to fight for anymore is a violation of another alliance’s sovereignty >forcing alliances to let their members be raided without being able to counter is not a violation of their sovereignty and is perfectly okay @Leo the Great can you explain please? this doesnt make sense to me Edited December 2, 2019 by hope 2 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr James Wilson Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, dancemasterlee said: We can always continue the war for another year or so. I guess that's easy to say considering you bandwagoned in, what? 2 months ago? When the outcome had long since been determined? Bold statement...really. 12 1 Quote The Volleyball Avanti Immortali ..one, two, Jimmy's coming for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr James Wilson said: I guess that's easy to say considering you bandwagoned in, what? 2 months ago? When the outcome had long since been determined? Bold statement...really. Blame your buddies, friend. We had no intention on getting involved and every intention on raiding arrgh for another 4 months. 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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