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The Shirataki doesn't seem to be working, or I'm just too impatient. Time to hit the Tabasco sauce!

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Only down to about 178 lbs today. IMO, this is moving way too slowly. I'm thinking about moving to 72 hour intermittent fasting, but I'd need to make the point (10 days fasting) first. This would imply that I fast through Sunday.

 

Doing 1.5 lbs per day, over the next 6 days, I'd be able to reduce another 9 pounds and hit 169 pounds. Then intermittent fasting should guarantee around 2 pounds per 3 days. That's 23 days, or about 16 pounds dropping me to a target of approximately 153 pounds by the end of the month. Which still keeps me 18 pounds distant from my 135 lb goal, but at that point, I'd already have blown through 37 pounds. How hard is the last 18 pounds going to be?

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Down to 175.4 pounds, which implies I can hit 171 or environs weight by the time I break fast. I think the way I'll do it is start a 10 day fast early on the 10th, then recover for 2 days and then switch to intermittent fasting. That'd be an expected weight of 160 pounds, with about 6 pounds lost to end the month (and year) at 154 pounds. That still puts me at 19 pounds to go between 154 and 135, which might be doable by the end of January.

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Still haven't been able to defecate yet. This Tabasco sauce is ridiculously ineffective, although my intestines have been grumbling all along. The Shirataki more or less just added .5 pounds to my body weight without flushing out my Thanksgiving meal.

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Have a scale telling me I'm about 173.5 pounds, but I doubt its accuracy. I have another 48 hours left, and the scale that I trust (because it's on the high side) will likely tell me I'm 173 or 171 pounds by then.

 

I'm ironically thinking about oysters as a way to break fast. I'm about 4.5 days in, and I'm tired, fatigued, and have a headache out the wazoo. On further reference, the Tiantai / Tendai sect has a rather prolonged fast:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-34604802

 

But unlike Tendai adherents, I have slept, eaten foodstuffs not exceeding 30 calories per day, and I've drunk prodigious amounts of tea. Maybe I'll give it a shot, and attempt to do the trek over a few years.

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Down to 171.8-172.8 pounds, depending on the scale. It's been roughly 15 days since I've started fasting, so the weight loss rate is about 1 lb / day (total) and 1.5 lbs / fasting day. Looks like I have good odds of hitting a 170 lb target by the time I break fast tomorrow. But I'll still be overweight by S'porean standards for my ethnicity.

 

Fasting for 48 hours, imo, is worth it for anyone who has issues with their weight. You can stuff it into a weekend and discover that your weight is something you can control. Moreover, when you fast, you experience an extreme short-term clarity that, imo, is sincerely liberating. Please remember, however, that fasting beyond 48-72 hours, especially if you are of normal weight, requires medical supervision unless you want to kill yourself.

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11 hours ago, Inst said:

Fasting for 48 hours, imo, is worth it for anyone who has issues with their weight.

I’ve been refraining from responding due to respect for your personal decisions, but I think I draw the line at encouraging others to follow you.

 

Starving yourself for more than a day isn’t healthy. Don’t do this.

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1 hour ago, CandyShi said:

I’ve been refraining from responding due to respect for your personal decisions, but I think I draw the line at encouraging others to follow you.

 

Starving yourself for more than a day isn’t healthy. Don’t do this.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/water-fasting

 

But it's Candyshi.

 

In other news, I'm considering trying an 18 day burst instead of only 10 days, because this is a normal fasting practice in Mahayana Buddhism for monastics. The experts have gotten up to 72 days, but this is considered exceptionally grueling and you'd probably need substantial body weight to make it work for so long. And of course, the monastics are monitored.

 

One thing I've thought about recently is "Food addiction". Turns out, this is literally a thing, and something above and beyond merely needing a certain calorie input to sustain body functions.

 

https://www.google.com/search?biw=3126&bih=2079&ei=W3XoXd0I8PHmAonFrJAP&q=food+addiction&oq=food+addiction&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.1061.2425..2723...0.4..0.98.1054.14......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i131j0i67j0i131i273j0i273.c5_M9jdA_x4&ved=0ahUKEwidos_FxJ3mAhXwuFkKHYkiC_IQ4dUDCAs&uact=5

 

Food addiction is when you have a psychological compulsion to eat, and obviously this class of irrationality transcends mere questions of eating to live.

 

The most important part, for me, of overcoming food addiction is understanding that hunger is normal, and that simply because you're hungry, you don't necessarily need to eat. You only need to eat in order to maintain a certain body weight and/or avoid malnutrition. The difference between food addiction and food dependency (i.e, you're a biological creature) is simply this eat-to-live vs live-to-eat distinction.

 

As for the monastic diet, I'll also switch down from caffeine (no tea, just water) and also drop my nicotine habit. The target weight loss will be approximately 27 pounds, or a drop from 170 pounds to about 143 pounds, although I doubt I'll reach it.

 

Another point of interest is that given that I'm losing 1.5 lbs per day, I'm roughly burning through 5000 calories per day, which is way more than my basal metabolic rate and caloric requirements. It's an interesting phenomenon and either implies biological inefficiency or that I'm losing a lot of water weight as my fat goes down.

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Down to 171 pounds. This phase of fasting is effectively over, I'm headed for oysters and an Argentine grill soon.

 

In the recovery phase, I shouldn't exceed 175 pounds. I have about 72 hours of eating left to me; once I get to the 8th, I'm going to try to fast for 18 days, terminating around noon of the 26th.

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@Inst you sound like you might have an eating disorder.  This sort of attitude to eating and weightloss is very unhealthy.  FYI fasting causes the release of stress hormones that (off the top of my head) trigger fat storage, muscle protein breakdown, hypertension and many other undesirable things.  Your weight loss is quite likely to be mostly water, muscle breakdown, and yes a little fat.

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13 hours ago, Etatsorp said:

@Inst you sound like you might have an eating disorder.  This sort of attitude to eating and weightloss is very unhealthy.  FYI fasting causes the release of stress hormones that (off the top of my head) trigger fat storage, muscle protein breakdown, hypertension and many other undesirable things.  Your weight loss is quite likely to be mostly water, muscle breakdown, and yes a little fat.

Turns out I do. I have a binge eating issue, i.e, I tend to eat too much and to snack too much.

 

My actual weight history for the past 7 years has ranged from 165 pounds to 220 pounds. This is roughly between 22.8 BMI to 28.8 BMI, between the boundaries of slightly under overweight and obese.

 

Let me put it another way, we know one of your TKR friends. That person has a serious eating disorder because they're roughly underweight and still conceive of themselves as fat. I, on the other hand, am medically overweight on a BMI basis and medically OBESE on a body fat percentage basis. I'm resorting to drastic intervention to resolve this issue, and most people here end up resorting to their preconceived notions of fasting is wrong.

 

There's recent and substantial medical research on the topic. Traditionally, fasting was researched as a potential solution for obesity. Unfortunately, people died due to a lack of fine-tuned control and the concept was dropped. However, as fasting is culturally ingrained (intermittent or single-meal fasting is common in many religions, as mentioned before, Buddhist ascetics will run it for up to 72 days, although that's highly dangerous and implies pre-bloating of at least 40 pounds above normal weight), it still has adherents and modified versions, such as 5-2 or 48 / 72 intermittent fasting, came into the fore, with substantially less danger.

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As for actual news, after weighing myself, I am now back up to 177 pounds. I'm going to be eating for another 3 days at this rate, so I forgive myself easily for the overeating. The last time, for instance, I was calorie restricting as I had planned a proper diet over 3-4 months. This time, well...

 

The current plan is as follows. Approximately at noon, on the 8th, I stop eating again. This time, I take up the Lotus Sutra, and hopefully manage to lose another 27 lbs from my former minimum weight of 171 pounds, water fasting (as in, strict water fasting) for 18 days, ending on the 26th at noon. That solves the "spiritual" or "moral" element of fasting, i.e, I manage to finish fasting as a means of self-mortification and to endure suffering.

 

Then fasting / exercise is now to reach my target weight of 135 pounds. The plan is 3 cycles of 72 hour intermittent fasting over 9 days, with a goal of losing 4 pounds. Then I am 137 pounds. Then, 2 cycles of 48 hour intermittent fasting, as I'd be rapidly approaching underweight status,with a goal of losing 2 pounds. Voila, 135.

 

As for the unplanned rapidity of recent weight gain, I could attempt to fast to nuke it away, but I'm going to see how much I can cycle in the next day. 20 miles might be nice (effectively 3-4 hours of cycling at 10 mph, with time allotted for breaks). It probably won't do much, but will help keep my metabolism in order.

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Please, you should at least let a doctor do some check ups on you on a regular basis during this process.

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