Popular Post Filmore Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 It's been 6 days since Syndisphere and KERCHTOG have agreed to surrender to Coalition B, and yet no negotiations have taken place yet. It's almost as if they don't actually want the war to end. For a while they have been making claims that it has been the KERCHTOG leaders that have been stalling negotiations, and now that it's their time for action, they do nothing. Hell Aragorn and Roq didn't even bother replying to those threads. So the question is, what happens now that the leaders of Coalition B refuse to negotiate any sort of peace? Will the alliances who are sick of war on the Coalition B side end up peacing out and risk being attacked like OWR and Carthago? 3 1 29 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Wellington Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 How long between the first call for a surrender and the actual (sort of) surrender? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alyster Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Roq is just stalling so he would have time to come with a new spin how to stall some more on actually presenting terms. 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveth Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) We can only hope to hear back from them soon. Edited November 8, 2019 by Daveth 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keegoz Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well there is some sort of negotiating happening on our side but you're correct about Syndisphere having no negotiations take place. 9 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Stewart Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Keegoz said: Well there is some sort of negotiating happening on our side but you're correct about Syndisphere having no negotiations take place. They're not finished padding their stats 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Filmore said: Will the alliances who are sick of war on the Coalition B side end up peacing out and risk being attacked like OWR and Carthago? They just have to give 6+ days of beige to KCHRHSDFIDSBGDSPIBSDFIDSTOG and Syndisphere and then leave all together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Marx Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 ITT people don't know how peace negotiations work. 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm actually curious to when people from Chaos/Ketog started "moaning" about the war compared to when these select alliances started "moaning" about the war. I understand that there's a possible discrepancy regarding the fact some may have fought on a different side beforehand, however, I would say there's a discrepancy regarding their actual "fighting" they actually did compared to similar tiered alliances. Not to mention, Ketog/Chaos have done it longer and I don't really recall them complaining as much about it but perhaps my memory is foggy. I certainly don't remember them complaining this soon, but I might be foggy about this as well like I said earlier so who knows. If I was to put it simple, I would argue that certain alliances that did fight before had "easy" schedules and are complaining while others had "hard" schedules and continue fighting without complaining. Sort of puts into perspective who are the real McCoy and who are not imo. I put "moaning" in quotes because that could easily be seen by different people as different ways, so it's not exactly a one size fits all thing. I would definitely count this OP as moaning though, I don't think any reasonable person would disagree lol. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raphael Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Comrade Marx said: ITT people don't know how peace negotiations work. As someone who knows how peace negotiations work - Coalition B is moving agonizingly slow. 12 minutes ago, Seeker said: I'm actually curious to when people from Chaos/Ketog started "moaning" about the war compared to when these select alliances started "moaning" about the war. I understand that there's a possible discrepancy regarding the fact some may have fought on a different side beforehand, however, I would say there's a discrepancy regarding their actual "fighting" they actually did compared to similar tiered alliances. Not to mention, Ketog/Chaos have done it longer and I don't really recall them complaining as much about it but perhaps my memory is foggy. I certainly don't remember them complaining this soon, but I might be foggy about this as well like I said earlier so who knows. If I was to put it simple, I would argue that certain alliances that did fight before had "easy" schedules and are complaining while others had "hard" schedules and continue fighting without complaining. Sort of puts into perspective who are the real McCoy and who are not imo. I put "moaning" in quotes because that could easily be seen by different people as different ways, so it's not exactly a one size fits all thing. I would definitely count this OP as moaning though, I don't think any reasonable person would disagree lol. I don't think anyone is moaning about fighting. It's more frustration that multiple threads got to 30+ pages on the debate that KERCHTOG had to admit defeat and agree to surrender before peace talks would begin - now that condition has been met, there's been "minimal contact" and no real progress almost a full seven days later. Edited November 9, 2019 by Bartholomew Roberts 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bartholomew Roberts said: As someone who knows how peace negotiations work - Coalition B is moving agonizingly slow. I don't think anyone is moaning about fighting. It's more frustration that multiple threads got to 30+ pages on the debate that KERCHTOG had to admit defeat and agree to surrender before peace talks would begin - now that condition has been met, there's been "minimal contact" and no real progress almost a full seven days later. The OP has technically been fighting us for a severely limited amount of time compared to other combatants yet he's complaining about the lack of peace. That's the point. KERCHTOG is a separate entity, it has nothing to do with their side fighting. There are ongoing talks with that side since the first term has been met, so it's not really factual there's no real progress. There is progress, despite if it's not as much that was desired from them. Progress is still progress. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkAk Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Who could've seen this coming? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Mad Titan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Keegoz said: Well there is some sort of negotiating happening on our side but you're correct about Syndisphere having no negotiations take place. Can anyone point to when Syndisphere was offered the peace deal KERCHOGG was? I can’t. Edited November 9, 2019 by Aragorn, son of Arathorn 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuno Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I don't know how this works but I *really* like war and couldn't fathom why anyone would be sick of war. Please keep fighting XD This game is already stale enough. Why make it worse by opting out of the war feature? Peace is overrated; there'a barely anything else in this game; same old *Resources.* If the game had cuter art, more people would play. Right now the only entertaining feature are the War features (besides trading the same old 12 resources over and over.) this is my own opinion and I'm sad to hear that some people are actually considering Peace Offers. So, that means no more raids of players in alliances and everyone has to go back to fighting "None" alliances? :< once you're above a simple city level (like 20,) targets in "no alliance" simply do not exist <.<;; #rantover Edited November 9, 2019 by Yuno 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Yuno said: I don't know how this works but I *really* like war and couldn't fathom why anyone would be sick of war. Please keep fighting XD This game is already stale enough. Why make it worse by opting out of the war feature? Peace is overrated; there'a barely anything else in this game; same old *Resources.* If the game had cuter art, more people would play. Right now the only entertaining feature are the War features (besides trading the same old 12 resources over and over.) this is my own opinion and I'm sad to hear that some people are actually considering Peace Offers. So, that means no more raids of players in alliances and everyone has to go back to fighting "None" alliances? :< once you're above a simple city level (like 20,) targets in "no alliance" simply do not exist <.<;; #rantover Why would you hit "no alliance" targets? You get MUCH more salt out of someone from a pixelhugger coalition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Yuno said: I don't know how this works but I *really* like war and couldn't fathom why anyone would be sick of war. Please keep fighting XD This game is already stale enough. Why make it worse by opting out of the war feature? Peace is overrated; there'a barely anything else in this game; same old *Resources.* If the game had cuter art, more people would play. Right now the only entertaining feature are the War features (besides trading the same old 12 resources over and over.) this is my own opinion and I'm sad to hear that some people are actually considering Peace Offers. So, that means no more raids of players in alliances and everyone has to go back to fighting "None" alliances? :< once you're above a simple city level (like 20,) targets in "no alliance" simply do not exist <.<;; #rantover Your problems seem to be more NPO focused, then general focused. If you believe war is the best thing about the game, then join an raiding alliance, like Arrgh. There even less extreme raiding alliance out there, that allow raiding of some alliances instead of mostly all, in peace time. This game have other play styles, if you getting bored in NPO then try another alliance(after the war). It not like we locked down in the first alliance we joined. Else try an alliance that have less taxes, so you have more economic freedom, that give you another field to play around with. Or you can try to become part of the goverment of an alliance, and i will guarantee you, that you will have more things to do, then you have time for. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefonteen Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Aragorn, son of Arathorn said: Can anyone point to when Syndisphere was offered the peace deal KERCHOGG was? I can’t. As I recall KERCHOGG negotiators have informed your negotiators of all of coalition A's intent to include negotiators from the entire coalition. Your negotiators made it clear that t$ was to approach seperately. Has that condition not been fulfilled? Even if your argument hold true, your communication on this matter has been spotty at best and underhanded at worst. It's not hard to prepare and present terms, and it's not hard to be clear about your demands and/or intentions. And from what I gather... the "Negotiations" with Kerchogg which are being referred to by others don't exhibit a whole lot of good faith either. I do hope communication improves, as the status quo does not look promising. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuno Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zim said: Your problems seem to be more NPO focused, then general focused. If you believe war is the best thing about the game, then join an raiding alliance, like Arrgh. There even less extreme raiding alliance out there, that allow raiding of some alliances instead of mostly all, in peace time. This game have other play styles, if you getting bored in NPO then try another alliance(after the war). It not like we locked down in the first alliance we joined. Else try an alliance that have less taxes, so you have more economic freedom, that give you another field to play around with. Or you can try to become part of the goverment of an alliance, and i will guarantee you, that you will have more things to do, then you have time for. I considered it since I love Raiding alliances' style Nah, not bored *yet*; NPO is active-warring rn.....tbh, maybe if they ban me from attacking alliance nations postwar i'll have to do something else like your suggestion :< in that case you'd be right (have to find those raids somewhere) For now, currently things are fine I guess. -------- (Just read up and like the Others said, negotiation isn't overnight) Edited November 9, 2019 by Yuno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charnel Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Yuno said: 'll have to do something else like your suggestion :< And take Marina with you uh i mean, if yous get fired/banned ofc..ofc Edited November 9, 2019 by Charnel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Seeker said: The OP has technically been fighting us for a severely limited amount of time compared to other combatants yet he's complaining about the lack of peace. That's the point. KERCHTOG is a separate entity, it has nothing to do with their side fighting. There are ongoing talks with that side since the first term has been met, so it's not really factual there's no real progress. There is progress, despite if it's not as much that was desired from them. Progress is still progress. Typically once a tangible desire for surrender is seen, the peace talks begin within a reasonable time frame. The world is eager for peace, not just the two coalitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bartholomew Roberts said: Typically once a tangible desire for surrender is seen, the peace talks begin within a reasonable time frame. The world is eager for peace, not just the two coalitions. Maybe, maybe not ?♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Shadowthrone said: Maybe, maybe not ?♀️ Don't make me nerf baseball again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Filmore said: So the question is, what happens now that the leaders of Coalition B refuse to negotiate any sort of peace? Will the alliances who are sick of war on the Coalition B side end up peacing out and risk being attacked like OWR and Carthago? The answer: NPO!/Coalition B can afford to play negotiation games like this. It's a classic tactic to get the other side to practically beg them for peace. Which Coaliton A isn't going to do. Coalition A posted surrender as a way to show up Coalition B as unrelenting. It's a great way to assassinate their public image (which is already tattered). Tl;dr Responding now would make them look weak and petty to their constituents so they choose not to respond. Edited November 9, 2019 by Deulos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 You went on a 24 hour recess after agreeing to one of ten things in Coal B. That doesn't sound like you're trying to delay at all! Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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