Popular Post Kastor Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Someone tell me. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Because Im still in VM. Once I return the Kali Yuga that P/W is experiencing ends. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkAk Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Hmm, I wonder if the terms aren't as simple as Sphinx was saying last week or whenever it was? I, for one, would be SHOCKED if they were fibbing when they said all the other side had to do was admit defeat and then terms would be revealed. Sphinx said this earlier on Seb's Peace thread: Quote we've already shot down numerous false claims regarding possible terms Colo B might want. Nothing we've had in mind deviates from any previously established peace terms after great wars. Edited November 8, 2019 by AkAk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcrum Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ said: Because Im still in VM. Once I return the Kali Yuga that P/W is experiencing ends. Probably the most sane explanation at this point 1 Quote 2016/04/26 – Unreleased Bad Company advert, circa 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmore Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 It's becoming quite clear that IQ doesn't want this war to end, at least, not quite yet. I wouldn't be surprised if Farksphere's NAP with them expires by the time this war comes to an end. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codonian Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kastor said: Someone tell me. I imagine because neither side have come to an agreement the other is happy with? Could it be that simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The admission of defeat post or whatever it was began the process of peace talks. Peace talks can go for a month or two. That's what happened in Knightfall, if I'm not mistaken. The post was just the beginning of the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kastor said: Someone tell me. Khorne is currently winning the eternal war in the warp. Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmore Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tarroc said: The admission of defeat post or whatever it was began the process of peace talks. Peace talks can go for a month or two. That's what happened in Knightfall, if I'm not mistaken. The post was just the beginning of the process. Correct me if I'm wrong, but have peace talks even started yet? I know IQ had a ridiculous self implemented policy of "negotiations happen on the 1st each month", and where the surrender posts were posted on November 2nd, I'm curious to know if IQ has even bothered to start with negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 The problem with going for the “why would we waste time making terms” angle, is that eventually you’re going to have to present terms, so they should have been made a month or so ago. Now I get, to an extent, not giving them terms without them surrendering. However taking as long as it has to give terms after surrendering just... looks bad. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Filmore Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, Prefontaine said: The problem with going for the “why would we waste time making terms” angle, is that eventually you’re going to have to present terms, so they should have been made a month or so ago. Now I get, to an extent, not giving them terms without them surrendering. However taking as long as it has to give terms after surrendering just... looks bad. After attacking former coalition members such as TFP, OWR, and Carthago just to name a few, they've made it quite clear that they don't care about their public perception. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charnel Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boris Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 We need to make it to Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Tarroc said: The admission of defeat post or whatever it was began the process of peace talks. Peace talks can go for a month or two. That's what happened in Knightfall, if I'm not mistaken. The post was just the beginning of the process. Would you know if, just like in Knightfall, the terms will be made public(while the war still rages on) to neutral parties as well as the warring ones? I'm sure this is of interest to neutral parties like Farksphere, Ad Astra, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mr. Goober said: Would you know if, just like in Knightfall, the terms will be made public(while the war still rages on) to neutral parties as well as the warring ones? I'm sure this is of interest to neutral parties like Farksphere, Ad Astra, etc. I can neither confirm nor deny. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tarroc said: I can neither confirm nor deny. I don't know. @Aragorn, son of Arathorn @Roquentin Would either of you be able to answer the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Kastor said: Someone tell me. Negotiations always take a while 53 minutes ago, Mr. Goober said: Would either of you be able to answer the question? From what I can discern, the Knightfall negotiations is the standard bearer of how not to hold a peace negotiations, and thanks to the behaviour of folks during that, you'd find very little traction to return to anything that is similar to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shadowthrone said: Negotiations always take a while From what I can discern, the Knightfall negotiations is the standard bearer of how not to hold a peace negotiations, and thanks to the behaviour of folks during that, you'd find very little traction to return to anything that is similar to it. So will the terms be shown to neutral parties as well, or what's up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memph Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I think the reason why the Knightfall negotiations dragged on for so long was that there were too many terms. Much of the objections to the terms came from alliances that would have offered white peace if the roles were reversed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Filmore said: After attacking former coalition members such as TFP, OWR, and Carthago just to name a few, they've made it quite clear that they don't care about their public perception. At least BK spehre hit them when they weren't tied to their sphere, meanwhile someone else... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 23 hours ago, Kastor said: Someone tell me. Because the first term was that all KERCHTOG nations will have to pass the NNN challenge. You can imagine how many failed. So yes the war will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Lets be honest Coalition B does not have to present terms nor even be in the peace talks channel. It's not the losers right to dictate the time of peace. Nonetheless I'd really like to see if BK or NPO have the balls to admit they want to keep the war going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 5:57 AM, AkAk said: Hmm, I wonder if the terms aren't as simple as Sphinx was saying last week or whenever it was? I, for one, would be SHOCKED if they were fibbing when they said all the other side had to do was admit defeat and then terms would be revealed. Sphinx said this earlier on Seb's Peace thread: The quote you referenced from me contradicts your own statement, I never implied things would be set in stone, I simply said the terms wouldn't have any major deviation from previous peaces. However I've taken a step back from the talks, another TCW gov member is filling in for me whilst I finish my Masters degree, and another person has also taken over writing up the document for our terms for peace, where we allowed all Colo B alliances the chance to include their terms for discussion in the peace talks. While I've been out of the loop on a few things I've tried to drop by as best I can whenever I can afford the time. You also would know that talks are not something the other-side agrees to off the bat. Our side has laid out the way we intend to conduct the talks, and have provided the first article for consideration once your side accepts that or an agreement upon it is made then we'll move to the 2nd article and so on. Anyway gotta get back to writing my thesis, and final assignments, Rome is calling! (I'm doing a Master of Ancient History, if you're curious) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Sphinx said: Our side has laid out the way we intend to conduct the talks, and have provided the first article for consideration once your side accepts that or an agreement upon it is made then we'll move to the 2nd article and so on. Totally not trying to have the war end post winter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True King Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 War has barely just begun, 5 year war ftw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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