Changeup Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I want some answers. Why are you posting this when you've been relaxing comfortably in VM a good chunk of the war? Someone from Chaos/KETOG who has had nonstop war for 5 months should be posting this. Edited October 16, 2019 by Changeup 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singha Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Both sides should just declare victory and forge sign each others names and signatures on their own peace terms. Problem solved ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited October 15, 2019 by Singha 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Oliver Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nokia Rokia said: My members are perfectly happy whatever do you mean I'm sure they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanK Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tarroc said: According to One And A Half Men or whatever the show is called, all that is needed for peace talks to begin is for KERTOG and CHAOS to admit defeat, and surrender, then people will begin discussing peace. !@#$ we ain't surrendering Need BK to disband and then everyone vs NPO and the Guinea pigs. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Hey leaders of Chaos/Kertog/Synsphere, I'm head milcom of coalition B, please PM me your juiciest surrender offers (note: not actually head anything of coalition B ) Edited October 15, 2019 by JT Jag 1 3 Quote ONE WORLD OR NONE CyberNations veteran, Co-Pilot Emeritus Hambassidor (Head Ambassador (Minister of Foreign Affairs)), Head of the Ministry of Log Dumping, GOONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just make the terms less crazier and I am sure, this war will end. But if nobody wants peace, suck it! Keep going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Seb said: dude, what does that even mean? accept a term before you send the actual terms? Col B needs to give a list of terms whatever they may be. Add non negotiable surrender if you want to, but put something forth. It's a process so ridiculous only BK or NPO could come up with and insist on it. BK was stubborn about wanting ridiculous terms when we were allied with them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Patrick Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Honestly wouldn't mind if npo and t$ disbanded. They're to op and also the reason the war has dragged on this long. I think most smaller alliances on both sides could live with that (excluding protectorates of course). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight k Schrute Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pewdiepie Posted October 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Seb said: what are Col B terms to end the war? For Coalition A to surrender 1 hour ago, Seb said: what are Col A terms to end the war? For Coalition B to surrender Jokes aside, this war is a bit of a sticky one and there are no signs of it ending soon. I presume more people are leaving the game than actually joining it (if you exclude NPO puppets) which can only be a bad thing and the game seems to only be going in a downwards spiral from this point in terms of treaties and coalition changes. 7 Quote ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymeier Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Economics will end the war. Eventually the sides will have their economies fall so hard they have to surrender 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Bismarck II Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tymeier said: Economics will end the war. Eventually the sides will have their economies fall so hard they have to surrender No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Anti-Memes has spent the past several months saying that they didn't lose because of stats so there's no point in us even bothering to write terms rn. Until they agree that they have in fact lost and have lost for months and they've been lying to their members about the state of the war why should we waste our time? The only thing anyone has to lose is Anti-memes membership. 2 2 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kurdanak Posted October 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 Well, it appears that the longer this war goes on, the greater BK's effort to suicide their reputation and war standing (i.e. losing allies (some quite long-term), attacking unaffiliated parties, dragging in an entire sphere with significant ties to their own side). What could possibly be next? I'm certainly curious to find out! In other news, convenient time to return from your vacation, Seb - hope you got a nice tan. 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Nokia Rokia said: My members are perfectly happy whatever do you mean Your members may be happy, but your also not apart of the war. At least not a significant part. Ollys point is valid, long drawn out wars like this arent good for the game. I think we can all agree that we like this game and we dont want it to become a joke. I'm not apart of the war either, and it's still tiring to have it last this long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sandro Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Tarroc said: According to One And A Half Men or whatever the show is called, all that is needed for peace talks to begin is for KERTOG and CHAOS to admit defeat, and surrender, then people will begin discussing peace. You wish ahahhaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boris Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 My wishes are simple, Iwant what everyone wants. You may call me a pixel hugger, but deep down you know you agree with me, I want peace! Said no one with any sense of autism! What I really want is far better, for the war to be over by A Christmas, To kill some Guinea Pigs, a small serving of frys and to successfully take NPO bank. this is a simple request, a request I'm sure we all can relate to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevanovia Posted October 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 59 minutes ago, Malal said: Anti-Memes has spent the past several months saying that they didn't lose because of stats so there's no point in us even bothering to write terms rn. >Coalition A: You want peace? Okay. What are your terms? >Coalition B: Not until you admit you lost and surrender! >Coalition A: Are those all your terms? >Coalition B: No, we have others. >Coalition A: Well...what are they? >Coalition B: You wouldn’t accept them if we offered, so we’re not giving them to you. >Also Coalition B: Coalition A is the reason this war is going on forever. REEEEEE! ..... 3 26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HannaH Posted October 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kevanovia said: >Coalition A: You want peace? Okay. What are your terms? >Coalition B: Not until you admit you lost and surrender! >Coalition A: Are those all your terms? >Coalition B: No, we have others. >Coalition A: Well...what are they? >Coalition B: You wouldn’t accept them if we offered, so we’re not giving them to you. >Also Coalition B: Coalition A is the reason this war is going on forever. REEEEEE! ..... 20 Quote ~*HannaH*~ The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Daveth said: There's a war going on? I thought T$ was just getting friendly with the family over Thanksgiving... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokia Rokia Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Richard Payne III said: Your members may be happy, but your also not apart of the war. At least not a significant part. Ollys point is valid, long drawn out wars like this arent good for the game. I think we can all agree that we like this game and we dont want it to become a joke. I'm not apart of the war either, and it's still tiring to have it last this long. All seriousness I was a member of the war earlier and I lost 30+ members who quit the game so I don't think the war is important and should stop but I don't think it will be as easy as making this forum post 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Seb said: dude, what does that even mean? accept a term before you send the actual terms? Col B needs to give a list of terms whatever they may be. Add non negotiable surrender if you want to, but put something forth. I don't decide anything, I'm not in gov. From what I heard though, it's that defeat is admitted, but the terms can be negotiated beyond that. Admission of defeat in the war does not mean accepting all of the terms of peace, from what was being said. As I said though, I'm not gov, I can't speak for BK's official position, and I don't know the exact details of anything. 2 hours ago, Sir Sandro said: You wish ahahhaha Not to be disrespectful, but this war isn't going to end with a victory for your side. TKR is down below 100K score, and has taken over a quarter of a trillion damage since the beginning of Knightfall. This war can go on forever and ever practically for both sides, and I imagine people on your side will quit the game and leave your alliances before people on our side get so bored that they give up on the war and accept a white peace. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh of Clan Mason Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 @TheNG It must be universally recognized that Clarke did nothing wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 This game is called Politics and War 50% politics and 50% war Politics are based on rules players agree to follow to make the game interesting and dynamic, once you start breaking those rules multiple times, and you are the biggest and most relevant entity in the game you can cause a fracture, if players don't trust other players politics are dead you are left with war only (if you are a pixelhugger in the fark sphere not even that) Ending the war will kill the game because there's nothing to do after this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post japan77 Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, Tarroc said: I don't decide anything, I'm not in gov. From what I heard though, it's that defeat is admitted, but the terms can be negotiated beyond that. Admission of defeat in the war does not mean accepting all of the terms of peace, from what was being said. As I said though, I'm not gov, I can't speak for BK's official position, and I don't know the exact details of anything. Bwahahaha. Nearly every sentence in that paragraph is wrong. Impressive. Let's talk about history and unconditional surrenders. There has never been and never will be a unconditional surrender in which the loser did not wind up agreeing to all terms imposed by the victors. That's how that works. Let's note that coalition B has refused to talk about any potential terms until after coalition A's surrender. That is by definition a unconditional surrender. You seriously expect people to be willing to surrender unconditionally when the opposing coalition contains actors known to have imposed ridiculous terms. And don't give me any of the NPO isn't the same as NPO nonsense. Either own your name or change it. Similarly, given that BK has put rather ridiculous terms on the table in the past, an unconditional surrender to any coalition containing either alliance is a bad idea. Let's next talk about precedent. This particular game has never had unconditional surrenders, and establishing that precedent will lead to longer wars as the best possible victory condition has changed dramatically. There's also the fact that coalition B winning would encourage longer wars, as we have opened up a path to victory of literally just waiting out an opponent instead of smashing through their infra, although given how long the last few globals have been, this isn't truly a new idea, but it would be the first time it worked. Up until now, dragging out a war has at most resulted in white peace, but the precedent of improving conditions by dragging out a war has resulted in longer wars. Thirdly, it would establish that having net negative damage, rolling coalition allies, having secret arbitrary treaties that one can twist into a CB, and bullshit CBs are valid things along a path to victory. If you truly believe these are not bad precedents for the game as a whole, give me what you're smoking because I need to escape reality. 3 20 1 Quote I don't sleep enough Also, I am an Keynesian Utilitarian Lastly, Hello world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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