Mandystalin Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Call me silly, but tanks* do already help against aircraft. You get Ground Control over your opponent then 1/3 of their airforce is grounded. Which is quite useful if you're fighting an 'aircraft only' opponent That being said, I do agree with the general idea that airstrikes shouldn't be invulnerable if you have no airforce. There has to be some % loss through AA * well, ground units as a whole but tanks are the most powerful of those Edited October 13, 2019 by Mandystalin clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mandystalin said: Call me silly, but tanks* do already help against aircraft. You get Ground Control over your opponent then 1/3 of their airforce is grounded. Which is quite useful if you're fighting an 'aircraft only' opponent That being said, I do agree with the general idea that airstrikes shouldn't be invulnerable if you have no airforce. There has to be some % loss through AA * well, ground units as a whole but tanks are the most powerful of those what good are tanks if you have no air, having GC does nothing for that. The whole point of people spamming about improving the war system as right now it takes ZERO skill to win, all you need is more nations/cities and just spam air attacks nothing more, adding a system where something other than planes can kill planes will improve the war system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2015: ability to hit planes with other units please 2016: ability to hit planes with other units please 2017: ability to hit planes with other units please 2018: ability to hit planes with other units please 2019: ability to hit planes with other units please Alex any year: No, but what about this new beautiful *insert some useful change*? I think we should stop asking and see if reverse psychology works 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Wellington Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 How about being able to hit planes with a new unit: The USS Enterprise! Map cost: 14 points. Dmg: 150% of total infra in target nation for 4/3 of its cities Bonus effect: the nation can never again ask for tanks with anti air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) I suggested anti aircraft guns a long time ago as a national project. It obviously would be hella expensive and it could ground a third of your aircraft.Which is realistic because those guns tend to hit friendly aircraft if you aren't careful. Edited October 13, 2019 by Deulos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandystalin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Elijah Mikaelson said: what good are tanks if you have no air, having GC does nothing for that. The whole point of people spamming about improving the war system as right now it takes ZERO skill to win, all you need is more nations/cities and just spam air attacks nothing more, adding a system where something other than planes can kill planes will improve the war system. The basic problem with the war system is that if you're attacked by multiple players employing any form of coordination then you can't buy back enough military forces per day to recover. Aircraft make such a win simpler for the attacker, but the same result would occur if aircraft were as single-focussed as naval & ground. Having a % of aircraft losses to AA fire would be nice, but in a typical dog pile war would not actually help unless they were very high indeed. Obvious example, I currently have 3 defensive wars, in the opening attacks my opponents dropped me from 1400ish aircraft to 400ish. I can buy under 300 per day. There is no possible way to recover. They are now effectively free to airstrike at will, but take out the option of hitting tanks, troops and ships by air and they would simply run coordinated naval and ground attacks with the same result as they had against my aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 4:15 PM, Aragorn, son of Arathorn said: Yea let’s just take away the only way to beat larger nations. Stop lying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 http://politicsandwar.com/index.php?id=129 this would fit most peoples needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) On 10/16/2019 at 12:51 AM, Elijah Mikaelson said: http://politicsandwar.com/index.php?id=129 this would fit most peoples needs yes but it was shot down by Green Protection Agency i believe when it was first announced and despite a post about the perks coming up every month or so Alex never responds Edit: Original thread The picture is not there anymore (at least for me) but it is the same thing that's in your link Edited October 21, 2019 by Viselli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Viselli said: yes but it was shot down by Green Protection Agency i believe when it was first announced and despite a post about the perks coming up every month or so Alex never responds Edit: Original thread The picture is not there anymore (at least for me) but it is the same thing that's in your link well not sure why GPA would say no, not like they know or are able to fight lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viselli Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Elijah Mikaelson said: well not sure why GPA would say no, not like they know or are able to fight lol Thats exactly why they were against it. They were anti-war and had a large forum population and were able to sway Alex on a number of things, like the military black market too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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