Lu Xun Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) In the interests of full disclosure and fair play, I'm asking that we list all wars that have been affected by naval glitching here. These nations may or may not have self-reported. Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=133181 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518305 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518171 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518305 Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=132794 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518157 (see Oct 4th, 12:04) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520090 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520159 (see Oct 5th, 12:04) Edited October 7, 2019 by Inst Was informed by TCW I missed a war, vetted it myself, 2 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=24625 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518448 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519531 2 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=152918 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=515429 Incidents Involving This Nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=117574 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519153 see MAP count discussion below. Edited October 6, 2019 by Inst 2 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=177033 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=512705 Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=177128 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519929 3 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Inst said: Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=132794 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=518157 (see Oct 4th, 12:04) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520090 This one is false. 10 hours ago, Inst said: Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=177033 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=512705 Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=177128 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519929 They peaced out after one naval. Idk why you added this? 10 hours ago, Inst said: (Claimed) Incidents Involving This Nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=117574 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519153 This case is unusual because it involves things not visible from MAP counting. The reporter in the other thread (Lord of the Flies) claims that there were 2 maps visible 1 hour after the last strike. It's possibly a false alarm. He was lying, trying to add on to the other glitches. He was actually just losing and whining about it. Edited October 6, 2019 by Deulos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) -Deulos, do you understand what the definition of a glitch is, and how it differs from an exploit? -Both glitches and exploits are results of the English word bug, for when a computer program does something that is not intended. The difference between a glitch and an exploit is, when your computer spontaneously crashes, that's a glitch. When bad coding gets your computer hacked, that's an exploit, i.e, an exploit is using a glitch with intent to cause harm or gain unfair advantage. -The use of "glitch" refers to the fact that under Alex's rubric, he doesn't see reason to believe T$ has been involved in deliberately exploiting the 0 MAP bug, and will probably revert all incidences of 0 MAP bugs at a later date. -If this was reports of "exploits", this would have gone into the Game Reports section. -Here, I am merely increasing the documentation available so that players are aware of incidents of such glitches to reduce the drama associated with this "glitch", to ensure that if someone actually decides to exploit this glitch deliberately, the frequency of use results in them getting caught, and to discourage players from exploiting this glitch. Edited October 6, 2019 by Inst 2 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Meat Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Inst said: Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=152918 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=515429 (Claimed) Incidents Involving This Nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=117574 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519153 This case is unusual because it involves things not visible from MAP counting. The reporter in the other thread (Lord of the Flies) claims that there were 2 maps visible 1 hour after the last strike. It's possibly a false alarm. Yeah, I won't pretend to have a ton of knowledge about the subject at hand, but as best as I can tell, 12 is the cap, so to perform 3 naval attacks in a row would put you at 0, and they had 2 approximately an hour later. 2 attacks at 12:02, and 1 at 12:04. My guess is they started with 10 MAP, the first attack "doubled" so to speak because of the server lag, using only 4 MAP and then they did the 3rd, which used another 4, bringing them to 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pericles Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Of The Flies said: Yeah, I won't pretend to have a ton of knowledge about the subject at hand, but as best as I can tell, 12 is the cap, so to perform 3 naval attacks in a row would put you at 0, and they had 2 approximately an hour later. 2 attacks at 12:02, and 1 at 12:04. My guess is they started with 10 MAP, the first attack "doubled" so to speak because of the server lag, using only 4 MAP and then they did the 3rd, which used another 4, bringing them to 2. Just took a look at it and it's not an example of this glitch. Note the time of the forth attack was at 4:26 pm, so actually 16 hours after the other hits, not 4. Edited October 6, 2019 by Krouton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Krouton said: Just took a look at it and it's not an example of this glitch. Note the time of the forth attack was at 4:26 pm, so actually 16 hours after the other hits, not 4. I'll do a MAP count. I'm not sober, but this seems to be the war timeline. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519153 10/03/2019 12:14 am: time of Dec, 6 MAP on both sides (Umbara is Tactician). 10/03/2019 04:06 am: Umbara starts with 8 MAP (+2 turns), launches two naval attacks, ends up with 0 MAP. 10/04/2019 12:02 am: Umbara should have 10 MAP right now (+10 turns). He launches 2 naval attacks, and ends up with 2 MAP. 10/04/2019 12:04 am: Umbara should have 2 MAP right now, and launches another naval attack. Evidently, he should have had 2 MAP before the attack initiated. Of course, I'm not checking Mesothelioma's MAP on this war, so if you can point out to him or her being involved in glitching, be my guest. 2 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pericles Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 @Inst You're right I was looking at the wrong attacks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Krouton said: @Inst You're right I was looking at the wrong attacks. @Krouton your proof is valid too, 3 navals at time + 1 naval in another 4 hours is something that's always impossible. Edited October 6, 2019 by Inst 1 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Oh I missed this thread. Apologies if my math is off but here's where it's happened for me thus far. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519297 (happens at the middle. 10/04/2019 09:41 pm Duke Archibald of Andalusia ordered a naval attack upon the nation of Kanata and eliminated 14 Resistance. The attack was an immense triumph. Duke Archibald's forces lost 6 ships, while King Jonathan Smith's defenders lost 10 ships. The attack destroyed 70.91 infrastructure in the city of Toronto. 10/04/2019 09:57 pm Duke Archibald of Andalusia ordered a naval attack upon the nation of Kanata and eliminated 14 Resistance. The attack was an immense triumph. Duke Archibald's forces lost 2 ships, while King Jonathan Smith's defenders lost 11 ships. The attack destroyed 88.65 infrastructure in the city of Peterborough. I would've only had 4 points here) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519248 (my last 2 moves 10/04/2019 09:40 pm Duke Archibald of Andalusia ordered a naval attack upon the nation of Cavendish and eliminated 14 Resistance. The attack was an immense triumph. Duke Archibald's forces lost 0 ships, while Leader ThommyZero's defenders lost 0 ships. The attack destroyed 109.86 infrastructure in the city of Nusanta. 10/05/2019 09:47 am Duke Archibald of Andalusia Fortified their nation. I should have only had 4 points here) Edited October 6, 2019 by Archibald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Incidents Involving This Nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=176695 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519297 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519248 @Archibald If MAP failing to deduct happens again in your favor, please report it and pretend the MAP is gone. Make it timeline invisible so there's nothing to revert. 1 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Inst said: Incidents Involving This Nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=176695 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519297 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=519248 @Archibald If MAP failing to deduct happens again in your favor, please report it and pretend the MAP is gone. Make it timeline invisible so there's nothing to revert. Understood. Honestly the problem in the past was that I thought it just didn't go through I didn't realise it was a legit problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 Kosonome set up a very well-documented glitch report in the following thread. Incidents involving this nation: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=32050 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520636 (10/7 12:01 am, naval attacks) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520638 (10/7 12:01-12:02 am naval attacks) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=520641 (10/7 12:03 am naval attacks) 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayxhunter Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Deulos mad that that his favorite glitch being reported and won't be able to use it on ppl soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Removed, bad math. Edited October 7, 2019 by REAP3R Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted October 8, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'm aware it's an issue. Additional threads make me spend more time combing through the forum than actually working on fixing the bug. 1 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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