Nerf Baseball Earnings

[Caleope]

If someone is gonna spend enough time clicking each day to play 10,000 games then I think they’ve wasted enough of their life that we should take pity on them and let them keep their hard earned pixel dollars. Nerfing gets a no from me chief. 

[JT Jag]

The "no baseball games when blockaded" idea is a good one too.

[Jordan]

1 minute ago, Archibald said:

"This game provides an advantage to people who... play the game... more than I do"

you realise that's a dumb as hell argument right

No it really isn't.

[Vein]

jokes aside, There should either be a limit to how many games you can play a day or a timer between each game. 

[Shadowthrone]

1 minute ago, Jordan said:

No it really isn't.

Yep it is. Any MMORPG, like RuneScape for example is grind as hell. Folks don't magically get lvl 99skill capes/120 achievements without spending literal days/months/years on it. That's their reward. No one's claiming everyone should have a lvl 99 skill cape if they can't spend the time on it. 

If anything, if Alex's game has something folks spend hours doing, nerfing it seems to be anything but counterproductive lol

Edited October 3, 2019 by Shadowthrone

[Archibald]

Just now, Jordan said:

No it really isn't.

you truly don't see the issue with "people who spend more time on the game shouldn't be better at it"?

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Jordan said:

Just think of this. I played for maybe a month and a half to two months. I earned 213M (before tips) 149M (after tips). I wasn't playing at the levels of some players. I only played small amounts everyday around the 500 games a day mark. There are ppl playing way more than that, and it creates a disadvantage to people who do not have the time to click, click, click, click.
I stopped playing for exactly that reason.

 

Alex I think this would be a preferred method, that way there is still the possibility of some income but not to the tune of billions of dollars

I can't afford to donate to the game to get 10 credits that I can sell on the Market for 250mil every month. That puts me at a disadvantage. So that's really not a good enough excuse to nerf something. How many hours and baseball games would I need to play to get parity with those who can pay to win?

[JasperFrost]

1 minute ago, Jordan said:

No it really isn't.

Do you support nerfing raiding or trading?

[Edward I]

3 minutes ago, Theodosius said:

Alternatively place a 45-60 second timer between games

The "x games per day at normal profits" is a better model because they can be played in rapid succession rather than over the course of hours, but placing a limit on the profitability per day is probably the best compromise.

[Valid User Name]

How can people stand to play so many games of baseball? I get bored after like my 30th game of the day.

[Archibald]

Can't wait for the thread in a month "so I realised people made money without buying my credits??? that's weird"

[Dryad]

1 minute ago, JasperFrost said:

Do you support nerfing raiding or trading?

raiding and trading both dont generate new stuff from nothing. those are a competition, in the case of raiding its competing in war and trading is a strategic thing as well, there is loser and winners in it because it isnt generating anything.

[Jordan]

2 minutes ago, JasperFrost said:

Do you support nerfing raiding or trading?

 

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I can't afford to donate to the game to get 10 credits that I can sell on the Market for 250mil every month. That puts me at a disadvantage. So that's really not a good enough excuse to nerf something. How many hours and baseball games would I need to play to get parity with those who can pay to win?

Touche, I hadn't considered those things when I posted. So I'll admit I didn't take all things into consideration.

 

However, I do like Jasper's idea of actually doing something with the baseball system. To make it more interactive.

[Sunara]

This is ridiculous. The script captcha is there to prevent cheating, and now when players don't cheat someone complains about it and now it becomes an issue even though it's hardwork of clicking? 

It's been unfair to players who went VM that the players still freaking age, I've suggested it to you a long time back, and now suggestion to limit the amts of play or reduce the amt to earn?! That's gone too far. 

And please, not everyone that plays baseball are from NPO. Some people played it way too early from the start. Baseball is the one thing I refused you to touch on and instead of focus on other important areas of the game! There are people like me who plays baseball by heart, and hard earned time on it, for the fun. Not everyone are playing 10,000 games a day. 

I said this because I invested baseball as slow as possible, doing it my slow way of reaching 100% rating, and having the fun to join the baseball community to interact with the other players. At some point, someone still does earn a billion for doing baseball, but someone also sacrificed for their time doing those earnings, and cutting it off is way too unfair for those who put their time on baseball through real efforts. 

Baseball is not intended to earn billion this way? What? Did it account that these figures are the hardwork of those who spent it 4 years straight on baseball and not just some cheaters to achieve it in means? Did it account the fact that players actually do tipping from the money they earned to the others who played their games as a fair share of trade? When most baseball players are doing according to fairly tip rules, you want to implement a limit of someone who loves to play baseball? 

This suggestion benefits heavily to those who hate baseball and find it a waste of time, clearly unfair to those who actually spend real time and effort on it. What's wrong with doing it with real effort? What's wrong with earning it by clicking? Even if it's 10,000 games per day?

[Comrade Marx]

Looking forward to these changes going live and the global war mysteriously ending simultaneously for completely unrelated reasons.

[JasperFrost]

1 minute ago, Dryad said:

raiding and trading both dont generate new stuff from nothing. those are a competition, in the case of raiding its competing in war and trading is a strategic thing as well, there is loser and winners in it because it isnt generating anything.

I'd argue raiding does. The majority of raid targets are people who are inactive and on their way to perma vacation mode, so people are just picking up resources that are going to be removed from play, right?

[Tiberius]

Just now, Dryad said:

raiding and trading both dont generate new stuff from nothing. those are a competition, in the case of raiding its competing in war and trading is a strategic thing as well, there is loser and winners in it because it isnt generating anything.

Buying credits is generating new stuff from nothing. I suppose it's okay spending RL money to get ahead, but not RL time and effort?  It wouldn't surprise me if Alex has noticed people are making more via baseball that 10 credits gives. So by nerfing baseball people will be forced to buy credits to get around blockades. Clever ploy. 

[Valid User Name]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Buying credits is generating new stuff from nothing. I suppose it's okay spending RL money to get ahead, but not RL time and effort?  It wouldn't surprise me if Alex has noticed people are making more via baseball that 10 credits gives. So by nerfing baseball people will be forced to buy credits to get around blockades. Clever ploy. 

Buying credits is honestly worse since it's a pay to win mechanic. If anything, credits should be limited to cosmetic stuff.

[Nobody Expects]

6 minutes ago, Edward I said:

The "x games per day at normal profits" is a better model because they can be played in rapid succession rather than over the course of hours, but placing a limit on the profitability per day is probably the best compromise.

I agree with @Edward I having games 0-1000 pay a full rate and then have it drop off as more games are played would be the fairest of compromises, but if people want to waste 6 hours a day clicking a monotonous button over and over again I don't see why they shouldn't be rewarded for the time invested,

[rayxhunter]

Well let's not 

[Yuno]

Awww man that sucks, I guess I'll quit Baseball then, I shouldn't even have been playing so much.  It's been a "good" run but there were times I stayed up all night over Baseball #regrets

Yeah delete it. I need to find other hobbies besides this stupid addiction thingy 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Yuno

[George Clooney]

Just limit the number of games you can play in a day to something reasonable like say 162 (the number of games in a Major League Baseball season) and be done. 

Of all the "exploits" in the game, this is small potatoes.

[Yuno]

Also dude, I got rich from Baseball but I only have $400,000,000 on me right now, so honestly,  if someone earned 2 billion, that is not that much. This game is simply expensive, plain and simple.

And then you have to TIP that person 50% of your earnings if he's only playing you, and 30% if he's playing like 10 people. Don't forget, the Aways player doesn't earn anything. 

That halves/reduces your real net income.  So factor that in.

So for example, that post that you posted about someone earning 2 billion, the reality of that is just 1 billion. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Yuno

[Archibald]

7 minutes ago, Yuno said:

Awww man that sucks, I guess I'll quit Baseball then, I shouldn't even have been playing so much.  It's been a "good" run but there were times I stayed up all night over Baseball #regrets

Yeah delete it. I need to find other hobbies besides this stupid addiction thingy 

don't be like that! You're the resident expert yo

[Avatar Patrick]

woah woah woah to much money playing baseball? I've invested millions to upgrade shit and spammed for like half an hour just to eventually get embargoed and make a tiny fraction of my investment. pennies. I support getting rid of baseball but not for the reason alex wants to.

Edited October 3, 2019 by Paradise