Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted October 3, 2019 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 Baseball was supposed to be a fun time-wasting mechanic for when you're bored and there's not a lot going on in P&W. At this point, it's basically spam-clicks-for-cash and really kind of game-breaking in the amount of money players are generating with it. While I'd probably rather just remove baseball from the game entirely, I suspect that would get a lot of backlash. Instead, I'm proposing we slash the money earned from baseball so that it is still a fun time-wasting mechanic, but not a reliable source of income. Some players are playing over 10,000 baseball games a day (and not using scripts, surprisingly.) Here's a table of all baseball teams by net income. The top baseball team has earned a net of over $13,000,000,000. $13 billion. With a b. That's over 2% of the total amount of money in all nations and alliance banks combined. I think earnings definitely need to be cut - I'll propose decimating them to 1/10th of current rates. Even then, the top baseball team would have generated $1.3b in net income, which is a ton (and probably way more than should be possible for a frivolous mechanic like baseball) but it is at least a significant improvement. Let me know your thoughts here. I'm open to suggestions on the amount of nerfing. 46 77 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arawra Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 Yes 14 21 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ArcKnox Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 Remove baseball entirely 1 16 23 Quote Praise Dio. Every !@#$ing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Potato Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'd say after the first "x" amount of games it goes down in profit exponentially, I'd recommend 500 games per day at normal profit and then it goes down from there 2 29 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted October 3, 2019 Author Administrators Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Potpie99 said: I'd say after the first "x" amount of games it goes down in profit exponentially, I'd recommend 500 games per day at normal profit and then it goes down from there That's not a bad idea. Then it's still a meaningful time-waster mechanic, but can't be made OP by just grinding out baseball games all day. 30 12 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vein Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 yes 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JasperFrost Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'm pretty sure if you just ban the scripters it becomes non game-breaking 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roquentin Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alex said: That's not a bad idea. Then it's still a meaningful time-waster mechanic, but can't be made OP by just grinding out baseball games all day. There isn't much to do in the game on a daily basis, so at least not nerfing every game would mean people have something to do that's constant and based on effort rather than accumulation. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryad Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, JasperFrost said: I'm pretty sure if you just ban the scripters it becomes non game-breaking what a moderation headache tho, right alex? Since according to Alex these people arent even using scripts there seems to be either issues with script detection or it is game-breaking even without scripts. Well the 13b and 9b put my 4b raid loot to shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nobody Expects Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 Aye if someone wants to spend hours manually clicking baseball, more power to them, no need to nerf it, they are earning this money in one of the least fun ways possible! 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tiberius Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) I'm guessing you will nerf trading next? I'd like to see a table on how much the highest earning Nation has made from trading, please. Keno too since people have hit the jackpot a few times. Their earnings will be higher than anyone has achieved through baseball. There is a miniscule amount to do in this game. Only a small amount get to play the Politics part, the majority get to play the war part. The only other things available is trading, baseball and keno, with baseball being the only real inter alliance community building aspect of those. The amount you make from baseball isn't really that much and you need to spend a lot of RL hours on it. Edited October 3, 2019 by Tiberius 2 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Senyor Puloy Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 Leave my baseball alone! There are a frick-ton of things that this game needs fixing, baseball is not one of them. Me desperately trying to derail the conversation: You still promised us a revamped and/or changed war system, whatever happened to that? 9 Quote With blood, sweat, and tears; even past the point that our guns and swords fail; even past the time when our bodies go frail; for Pacifica we shall always prevail! Without doubts! Without question! Whatever the cost! To whatever end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadowthrone Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) I mean nerfing baseball against is not worth it. If someone wants to spend hours clicking a button and doing things to earn money, you should let it be. It's a fun/useful mechanic that I've used as well from time to time and it's absolutely worth it. As is, it takes RL time to make anything out of it. Further nerfing it you reducing actual things to do in game, and that'd be a terrible move. If you just want to nerf things, go ahead and nerf trading too. It's only fair that folks spending RL time to use your mechanics should all be screwed over. Edited October 3, 2019 by Shadowthrone 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vein Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 I like how the only people complaining are from NPO:) I would fully support the nerf of baseball, its too op rn. 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PhantomThiefB Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) I'm completely against this, if I put my effort into a click game for a few hours + of my day I should profit a reasonable amount, I don't feel like the current profits are game breaking at all. Your going to nerf something based on a small select few players putting more effort then you anticipated for the rest of us? There are so many other things in game you could work on but this is what you want to do? Really? @Alex here's a compromise, put add's on baseball that ping like the robot does, you can profit from our hard work too that way. Edited October 3, 2019 by PhantomThiefB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Galerion Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alex said: The top baseball team has earned a net of over $13,000,000,000. $13 billion. With a b. That's over 2% of the total amount of money in all nations and alliance banks combined This is missing context, those numbers leave out the number of days/years taken to reach them and ignore tipping culture. 5 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Big surprise, a rushed feature without any thought you pushed out on a whim didn't fit or work well. Now you want to turn back the clock eh? Ain't that easy sweet cheeks. You want to get rid of baseball? Replace it with something better. Edited October 3, 2019 by Malleator 4 Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aesir Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 If someone wants to play baseball let them. Removing a way some people enjoy the game isn't how you keep people playing. And before someone says "well he isn't removing it" he is, he's just not willing to actually pull the plug fully because he's scared of backlash so instead he wants to pull the plug halfway. Either leave the plug in or yank it out, leaving half way is just a fire hazard. 3 7 1 Quote Art by Faroreswind159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Jag Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The "baseball maintains value equal to how it is currently until you do it x amount of times" option seems to make the most sense to me. 4 Quote ONE WORLD OR NONE CyberNations veteran, Co-Pilot Emeritus Hambassidor (Head Ambassador (Minister of Foreign Affairs)), Head of the Ministry of Log Dumping, GOONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasperFrost Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I think the ideal solution is to flesh out the baseball feature in the game like most people have wanted for years. My baseball team is like 4 years old or something and the mechanics have never changed since release. Specifically, implementing leagues where teams can be invited and people can have meaningful interaction when playing games rather than anonymous clicking through "8 away games" without talking to anyone 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Theodosius Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Alternatively place a 30-60 second timer between games Edited October 3, 2019 by Theodosius 17 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Galerion said: This is missing context, those numbers leave out the number of days/years taken to reach them and ignore tipping culture. Just think of this. I played for maybe a month and a half to two months. I earned 213M (before tips) 149M (after tips). I wasn't playing at the levels of some players. I only played small amounts everyday around the 500 games a day mark. There are ppl playing way more than that, and it creates a disadvantage to people who do not have the time to click, click, click, click. I stopped playing for exactly that reason. 33 minutes ago, Alex said: That's not a bad idea. Then it's still a meaningful time-waster mechanic, but can't be made OP by just grinding out baseball games all day. Alex I think this would be a preferred method, that way there is still the possibility of some income but not to the tune of billions of dollars 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The game literally let's you play baseball rn even if you're blockaded, so don't pretend like you ever put -any- thought into this, Alex. As it is right now the only people spending time on it are those of us who get bored. You created a mostly afk game with a cookie clicker minigame attached. Don't blow it now. But yes, if you MUST change something, the limit makes the most sense. Also: ban the nazis instead on focusing on shit that doesn't matter. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 @Alex it appears many people have great ideas here. Please implement a few to make Baseball interactive, but not a OP to earn money if you have extra time on your hands. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Jordan said: Just think of this. I played for maybe a month and a half to two months. I earned 213M (before tips) 149M (after tips). I wasn't playing at the levels of some players. I only played small amounts everyday around the 500 games a day mark. There are ppl playing way more than that, and it creates a disadvantage to people who do not have the time to click, click, click, click. I stopped playing for exactly that reason. "This game provides an advantage to people who... play the game... more than I do" you realise that's a dumb as hell argument right 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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