Lossi Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Malal said: No ceasefire was brokered, we merely stoped launching attacks temporarily out of our own generous hearts and I'm calling it a ceasefire because I'm to lazy to type all that. We were still 100% at war with these nations and informed TS of this fact on day 1 and that unless they surrendered promptly we would continue with the wars, as is our right. And when you do, you've attacked nation's now protected by t$, who protects them, as is their right. Quote Quote Former leader of Chocolate Castle 4/1/2021 "It's pretty easy to get abused by Rosey without being a weirdo about it" - Betilius "Rosey is everything I look for in a fighter" - partisan "I’m very much not surprised that Lossi has you blocked tbh" - @MCMaster-095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Meanwhile, Fark exists. They've literally sheltered what became alliances of war dodgers now protected by TCW of all things. Well, one crusade against injustice and war dodger harboring at a time. Of course all inhabitants of evil will be put to the sword eventually, but it just wouldn't be practical for the forces of good and righteousness to fight them all at once. ? TMC is what I assume you're referring to as an alliance of war dodgers. That is far different from what we currently face. There's ample evidence that this alliance was planning on forming before the war was even rumored. Poorly timed? Perhaps. Pure war dodging? I don't think so. 49 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Sit your ass down, you're no righteous crusader on the subject, take the virtue signaling elsewhere. No need for hard language. Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossi Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Malleator said: TMC is what I assume you're referring to as an alliance of war dodgers. That is far different from what we currently face. There's ample evidence that this alliance was planning on forming before the war was even rumored. Poorly timed? Perhaps. Pure war dodging? I don't think so. Ah, so only certain war dodging counts. Glad you cleared up how bias your decision is. Edited October 2, 2019 by Rosey Song Phone typo Quote Quote Former leader of Chocolate Castle 4/1/2021 "It's pretty easy to get abused by Rosey without being a weirdo about it" - Betilius "Rosey is everything I look for in a fighter" - partisan "I’m very much not surprised that Lossi has you blocked tbh" - @MCMaster-095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rosey Song said: And when you do, you've attacked nation's now protected by t$, who protects them, as is their right. No one is debating T$’s right to choose to join the war in support of the enemy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Malal said: No ceasefire was brokered, we merely stoped launching attacks temporarily out of our own generous hearts and I'm calling it a ceasefire because I'm to lazy to type all that. We were still 100% at war with these nations and informed TS of this fact on day 1 and that unless they surrendered promptly we would continue with the wars, as is our right. So out of your generous heart tell me: how much damage i must do to counterbalance my pending 2.5k infra losses ? cause i didnt quite got that right the first time around and i think i did a bit more than needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 some of yall are concerning me with how quickly you’re willing to turn on an alliance when it becomes the hip and popular thing to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rosey Song said: And when you do, you've attacked nation's now protected by t$, who protects them, as is their right. But, and this is key here, it is not defensive just because they signed a protectorate if we are already at war. It is an aggressive action. 2 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Malleator said: Well, one crusade against injustice and war dodger harboring at a time. Of course all inhabitants of evil will be put to the sword eventually, but it just wouldn't be practical for the forces of good and righteousness to fight them all at once. ? TMC is what I assume you're referring to as an alliance of war dodgers. That is far different from what we currently face. There's ample evidence that this alliance was planning on forming before the war was even rumored. Poorly timed? Perhaps. Pure war dodging? I don't think so. No need for hard language. That it was planned is irrelevant. According to the opinions of up to and including your own bloody leader, leaving during a war for any reason, permission or no, is desertion. So, when do the balls drop and the crusade really begin, hm? I'm practically funding it for you with my repayments. As a customer i demand results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest San Fortunado Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Imagine being t$ and thinking NPO wasn’t just trying fool around with them to make BK jealous... Goodbye N$O, the bloc that nobody ever thought was ever real, and welcome back IQ, the bloc nobody ever thought was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossi Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Malal said: But, and this is key here, it is not defensive just because they signed a protectorate if we are already at war. It is an aggressive action. "Oh my God, they attacked us, therefore all context is irrelevant, they're aggressors, we can do no wrong.". Get your head out of your ass before you respond. 1 Quote Quote Former leader of Chocolate Castle 4/1/2021 "It's pretty easy to get abused by Rosey without being a weirdo about it" - Betilius "Rosey is everything I look for in a fighter" - partisan "I’m very much not surprised that Lossi has you blocked tbh" - @MCMaster-095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dreki Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Answering the peeps who have mentioned TMC as a war dodging alliance: We calculated the time of our creation to one week or so after the end of the Surf's up war, having the alliance we were in (Soup Kitchen) acknowledge that plan. However, the global war happened 1 day after we were informed of the end of Surf's up. Since we were still in Soup, we agreed with them that we would fight for them until the time previously agreed for our leaving. Soup Kitchen and Chaos do not consider us War Dodgers, and it's their decision about the matter. KT or Empyrea have no business with our situation so I personally do not understand why they keep telling these lies. I will post screenshots later to prove Soup Kitchen's acknowledgement of our situation before the war and them not considering us war dodgers just for the sake of publicity. If people want to believe in their own fabricated lies, it's their own choice. But may people see the truth and decide by themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossi Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dreki said: Answering the peeps who have mentioned TMC as a war dodging alliance: We calculated the time of our creation to one week or so after the end of the Surf's up war, having the alliance we were in (Soup Kitchen) acknowledge that plan. However, the global war happened 1 day after we were informed of the end of Surf's up. Since we were still in Soup, we agreed with them that we would fight for them until the time previously agreed for our leaving. Soup Kitchen and Chaos do not consider us War Dodgers, and it's their decision about the matter. KT or Empyrea have no business with our situation so I personally do not understand why they keep telling these lies. I will post screenshots later to prove Soup Kitchen's acknowledgement of our situation before the war and them not considering us war dodgers just for the sake of publicity. If people want to believe in their own fabricated lies, it's their own choice. But may people see the truth and decide by themselves. I wasn't aware @Akuryo was KETOGG, but welcome to the crew I guess North Point Quote Quote Former leader of Chocolate Castle 4/1/2021 "It's pretty easy to get abused by Rosey without being a weirdo about it" - Betilius "Rosey is everything I look for in a fighter" - partisan "I’m very much not surprised that Lossi has you blocked tbh" - @MCMaster-095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dreki said: Answering the peeps who have mentioned TMC as a war dodging alliance: We calculated the time of our creation to one week or so after the end of the Surf's up war, having the alliance we were in (Soup Kitchen) acknowledge that plan. However, the global war happened 1 day after we were informed of the end of Surf's up. Since we were still in Soup, we agreed with them that we would fight for them until the time previously agreed for our leaving. Soup Kitchen and Chaos do not consider us War Dodgers, and it's their decision about the matter. KT or Empyrea have no business with our situation so I personally do not understand why they keep telling these lies. I will post screenshots later to prove Soup Kitchen's acknowledgement of our situation before the war and them not considering us war dodgers just for the sake of publicity. If people want to believe in their own fabricated lies, it's their own choice. But may people see the truth and decide by themselves. Cool story, i'm sure some poor sod actually wasted their time reading it or caring what it says, because it's wholly irrelevant to the actual point being made. Better luck next time though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Akuryo said: it's wholly irrelevant to the actual point being made. Thought the point was that hypocrisy was happening because you say one side was both harboring and attacking war dodgers? If what you say are war dodgers are in fact not war dodgers, doesn't that make your point moot? Correct me verbosely please if I'm wrong here. I do like the logic that Coal B was already at war with the war dodgers, so therefore committed no unprovoked act of aggression towards t$. Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Epi said: Strange, i only smell salt coming from you. Does your existence mean anything beyond being an intestinal worm up NPOs wide ass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justin076 Posted October 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2019 Wars are so long that alliances can enter and exit several times, against opposing sides. What a time to be a alive. 10 3 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Malleator said: Thought the point was that hypocrisy was happening because you say one side was both harboring and attacking war dodgers? If what you say are war dodgers are in fact not war dodgers, doesn't that make your point moot? Correct me verbosely please if I'm wrong here. I do like the logic that Coal B was already at war with the war dodgers, so therefore committed no unprovoked act of aggression towards t$. I mean, you are hypocrites. Unless there's some form of evidence that the new TEst founding wasn't itself planned before the war in conjunction with whatever plans arrgh has relating to it, but that's something you wouldn't know about and i do. Still, not addressing that leadership of your coalition and more interestingly your alliance TCW, have stated that war dodgers are war dodgers, plans, permissions, or no. Yet, here they are protecting an alliance made up entirely of them, that recently merged to only be 2/3 deserters. So on top of my prior question about Fark, when will these people be dropped or rolled regardless of that? When's the schedule for everyone turning the Ancient History nerd Sphinx into Julius Caesar by stabbing him and his alliance repeatedly, yanno, for protecting those war deserters, by their own definitions. Not my fault if you guys can't think literally 3 minutes ahead to see that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karl VII Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, CitrusK said: Eh more like this... I know you guys love this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreki Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, Rosey Song said: I wasn't aware @Akuryo was KETOGG, but welcome to the crew I guess North Point Sorry, thought he was in a relevant alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhearl Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Malal said: TS has a non-chaining MDoAP with NPO, not a MDAP. Seems pretty clearcut to me, seems partiboi has lost his edge. Do you not know what MDoAP stands for lol. That means MUTUAL DEFENSE and optional aggression pact. T$ was hit by The Covenant therefore using the treaty by its definition it means that NPO should defend them as the MDoAP says. So it doesn’t matter if it is a MDoAP or MDAP lol they both have Mutual defense in it which isn’t being followed ? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Mhearl said: Do you not know what MDoAP stands for lol. That means MUTUAL DEFENSE and optional aggression pact. T$ was hit by The Covenant therefore using the treaty by its definition it means that NPO should defend them as the MDoAP says. So it doesn’t matter if it is a MDoAP or MDAP lol they both have Mutual defense in it which isn’t being followed ? Sounds like a certain intel clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mhearl said: Do you not know what MDoAP stands for lol. That means MUTUAL DEFENSE and optional aggression pact. T$ was hit by The Covenant therefore using the treaty by its definition it means that NPO should defend them as the MDoAP says. So it doesn’t matter if it is a MDoAP or MDAP lol they both have Mutual defense in it which isn’t being followed ? It's non-chaining, so T$ entering via an agressive war and getting countered means that NPO doesn't have to enter. TC MDoAP is chaining through the BK-TCW treaty and is therefor defensive and not aggressive. [insert Chad MDoAP vs Virgin MnDoAP meme templete here] Edited October 2, 2019 by Malal 2 4 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward I Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 When Malal switches from memes and shitposts to displaying a better working knowledge of treaty clauses than you, you've probably screwed up. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Stewart Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Malal said: It's non-chaining, so T$ entering via an agressive war and getting countered means that NPO doesn't have to enter. TC MDoAP is chaining through the BK-TCW treaty and is therefor defensive and not aggressive. [insert Chad MDoAP vs Virgin MnDoAP meme templete here] t$ was defending their protectorate, how is that aggressive? Would enjoy hearing your mental gymnastics on this one Maybe scarf was right about the slaves thing ? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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