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After I shared this video helping expose the AIDS origin, was taken down. Although transcript for some message preserved.

0 July 2018

Deepstate Dox: https://pastelink.net/aafd

Greetings citizen and welcome to ZeroSec Deepstate Dox 25.

Bilderbergs Aurelio Peccei and Zbigniew Zbzezinski heading later the Trilateral Commission wielded another Rockefeller secret society Club of Rome, to the end of creating a New World Order. The Club of Rome complimented the Bilderbergs as the other arm of the Committee of 300, a British secret society built on opium trade. Club of Rome has among it's 100 members enough NATO execs to steer world events. Zbrzezinski created Taliban, Al Qaeda, founded the Trilateral Commission and has instilled every American president since Carter to Obama and indirectly Trump. He directed those directors since inception. With the Bilderbergs Club of Rome also stands as the most influential of the Round Table Group. Club of Rome member Sir Julian Huxley was head of the British Eugenics Society- a field John Rockefeller created. In Sir Julian's words: "The lowest strata- allegedly less well endowed genetically- must not have too easy access to relief or hospital treatment lest the removal of the last check on natural selection." In 1961, at the Litton Bionetics laboratory (who was working with the Navy's Biomedical Research Laboratory, in association with the Univeristy of California), retroviral experiments with African green monkeys and human T-cell leukemia were being conducted under the auspices of the National Institute of Health. The first order of the Club of Rome created in 1968 at Rockefeller's Italian estate was to harness this research into a usable plague. This culminated in 1969 at a House Appropriations hearing, the Defense Department's Biological Warfare unit requested funds to develop, through gene-splicing, a new disease that would be resistant to treatment and break down a victim's immune system. The experiments consisted of taking monkey viruses that were harmless to humans, recombining them with DNA, RNA and enzymes from other animal viruses that were known to cause leukemias, lymphomas, and sarcomas; then causing them to jump species. Meanwhile they decided upon a narrative for steering global conflict that would capture both right and left ideologies. Under the penmanship of Lord Peter Carrington building on foundations of Club Rome Founder Peccei's Human Quality book. Thinking themselves Gods they subdivided civilization into 10 quasi-biblical regions to unite as a church meaning body under them as the Gods. They divided the UN and the melting pot America into left ecology and right defense groups. Club Rome's history is the history of AIDS. 
Before we delve into the Club of Rome's action in AIDS we should point out the other-side of the New World Order which is an Israeli led Zionism which, among other things, has led to a genocide claiming hundreds of thousands of Palestinians over the life of the new Israel. Israeli's claim of late of Palestinian protesters in the section Palestinians are allowed to exist; not the majority Israeli side. Israel's cruelty includes not allowing Turkey to transport the wounded to care. To be Palestinian is to live in the concentration camp of the Gaza strip in a perpetual horror.
ZeroSec Military Anonymous have government paperwork showing AIDS was created as a biological weapon. AIDS narrative shows inconsistency: If AIDS came from monkeys why do monkey eating pygmies not get infected? Facts run counter to recent narratives that AIDS initiates in an isolated village which later exported sex trade. The second order of business was creating a post-industrial zero growth plan designed in part to cripple U.S. industry. In 1973 Club Rome publication Turning Point they map a one world currency. After Club Rome the same heads create the Trilateral Commission ruling weakened nations by corporations world. Zbrzezinski writes openly about this in his books. Another secondary futures market for investment banks is put together under the guise of saving the world.

According to Professor William Haseltine of the Harvard Medical School, AIDS is also much more contagious then we've been programmed to believe. AIDS can be passed by mosquitoes or any body fluid including saliva. And considering HIV can incubate in the host 10-15 years before causing any noticeable signs of illness; AIDS could very well be the plague of our times. And AIDS is a hard kill. It lasts 7 days on a dry surface and 15 days on a wet one. But for one reason or another this deadly virus has been played down as non-transmittable in casual contact. It is actually a virus requiring quarantine on the sick and their contacts to control. Nor do condoms protect from such a transmittable virus of which one virion a fivehundredth the size of a sperm can infect a host. In 1975, Dr. Robert Gallo and eight other scientists (working at the Bethesda Cancer Research Center in Maryland) had been working to modify the genetic structure of the virus so that it could be more easily transmitted. That same year, after Fort Detrick had become demilitarized, the newly established Frederick Cancer Research Facility was placed under the direction of the Bethesda Cancer Research Center where Gallo was the Director. One investigation revealed that in March, 1976, a special federal government virus development program began producing the AIDS virus, and it was headed by Dr. Gallo and Dr. Novakhatskiy of the Ivanosku Institute in Russia. Gallo would later be investigated and found guilty of scientific misconduct, but President Clinton pardoned him. In the 1976 novel Ceremony of the Innocent by Taylor Caldwell, she effectively explains the rationale behind such actions:


"...there will be no peace in the tormented world, only a programmed and systematic series of wars and calamities- until the plotters have gained their objective: an exhausted world willing to submit to a planned Marxist economy and total and meek enslavement- in the name of peace." Also 1976, Club Rome published RIO: Reshaping the International Order which called for a new international order, including an economic redistribution of wealth- the world's population. In a Club of Rome book called Mankind at the Turning Point


A new world economic order was outlined. Club Rome indicates genocide elimination of what they call "useless eaters." So why not starvation through created famines? Or Third World diseases like the Rockefeller patented Zika virus and distribution of AIDS? The Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and IMF pursued policies which resulted not only in the death of the 120 million cited in their reports, but in the death of upwards of two billion people by the year 2000. That number- for perspective, equals everyone on Zukerberg's heavily censored shit media Facebook. We know in 1978 gay targeted Hepatitus B vaccinations had, by modest CDC reckoning a super-majority of vaccinations infected with AIDS.

July 24, 19-80, a two-volume document called "Global 2000 Report," called for U.S. population reduction of 100 million by year 2050. University of Florida marine biologist and Club Rome member Howard T. Odum, was quoted in the August, 1980 edition of Fusion magazine: "It is necessary that the United States cut its population by two-thirds within the next 50 years." That happens to equal population poisoned by chromium 6 in the American water table. It seems a ridiculous area to cull considering that 5% of the world population lives on 30% of the usable land mass. Reacting to charges of AIDS as a military biological warfare weapon, in February, 1987, Army Col. David Huxsoll said: "Studies at army laboratories have shown that the AIDS virus would be an extremely poor biological warfare agent." He later denied saying it.

By 1988 Doctor Robert Strecker discovered how AIDS was made. Strecker's research explained the AIDS virus was developed by the Frederick Cancer Research Facility of the National Cancer Institute, in cooperation with the WHO, in their laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland (which until 1969 was part of the U.S. Army's germ warfare unit, known as the Army Infectious Disease Unit, or Special Operations Division) by combining bovine (cattle) leukemia virus and visna (sheep) virus, and injecting them into human tissue cultures. When Doctor Strecker started talking about AIDS creation and from that an understanding of a cure his brother was killed with multiple gunshot wounds that were ruled suicide. Within the month his political ally Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of Chicago was killed by overdose when he was not known to use any drugs. Then Doctor Strecker goes silent. Here is a Doctor Strecker quote which outlines why he was a threat to the system: "I don't think there is any doubt that AIDS is a man-made problem. The question is whether it was created either accidentally or intentionally. I believe the AIDS virus was requested, predicted, produced, and deployed." Why we're on the subject of crimes involving sex we would be remiss no to included the Cemex and Nexium trafficking among the elite. 


But when child trafficking camps are discovered Snopes is quick to disavow and the police to eager to not investigate.

And now we see these pretend Walmarts we have watched erected over America the last couple of years being filled with immigrant children- while a deepstate government has been moving children for sex trafficking. And anyone who thinks this is beyond our shadow government just look at the slave trading mess America left Libya in.

Continuing our foreign policy disaster America backs Al Nursa another name for Al Qaeda which started as a seventies CIA op every time the largely Christian Syrians almost expunge them from the country. We are not Jesus nor have we Alzheimer's. Expect us.We are not Jesus nor have we Alzheimer's. Expect us

Another video exposing inter republic for expense thousands knowingly with AID,

Interrepublic, They cover up Pfizer genetically modified AIDS virus which leaked and spread. interrepublic also backs Bayer which knowingly infected consumers with the AIDS virus. Bayer as a derivation of the Nazi war machine IG Farben created As well as creating Heroin. But Bayer is considered common pain reliever thanks to Interpublic.

 

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Greetings and welcome to ZeroSec Deepstate Dox 19. We've looked Microsoft's corruption and the PR company they hide behind: Weber Shandwick which we will bring to you soon. Looking into Weber Shandwick we found their umbrella corporation Interpublic. Interpublic houses many corporate evils through varied agencies. Interpublic via McCann Worldwide has long been stealing jingles: like Rice-A-Roni's from the 1923 Barney Google. Interpublc's McCann Worldwide trademarks words. Interpublic's Weber Shandwick tentacle steers the spotlight away from Visa. MasterCard and Visa information both feed straight to the NSA. And MasterCard attacks Julian Assange for the NSA.
 
We know know with the release of the FISA memo that everyone's subject to a surveillance beyond even the government's own scant rules. And as we pointed out: before the FISA warrant was achieved the UK NSA GCHQ acted in our government's behest as members of the Five Eyes do for one another. Certainly Andrew McCabe was complicit and therefore resigned
 
but lets note the fact that Terry Gowdy and the DNC CEO resigned in the memo wake as well. And James Comey is such a shit we must devote a video just to him down the line. Surveillance against the American people is simply the fascist America we know reside in. And we have more counts of corruption from the banks, corporations and secretive deepstate societies than any video series could ever cover. What's more we know the last administration made illicit Uranium deals in benefit of the Russians and the Iranians and the far reaching corruption was suppose to be buried by a Hillary administration that never happened.Breaking down the extent of corruption today is a far reaching task. But in many of these cases their is a great work afoot in terms of controlling image. And the biggest of these marketing firms is Interpublic.
 
Inter-public hides CDC's false flag frickery which has been going on since the beginning. Client David Packard was a World War 2 draft dodger that became Defense Secretary sending people to Vietnam. He draft dodged with radar work he called Hewlett-Packard. Although business partner Hewlett went to war. Their PR team, known now by umbrella company Interpublic, kept the corrupt company successful. Interpublic also portayed McDonalds as the fifties surburban all American company instead of junk food. Interpublic hired Norman Rockwell for his noted fifties-esque Americana. Consequently Interpublic obscures Jack in the Box poisoning. Hewlett-Packard lived on to hire many !@#$ like State Secretary Condeleeza Rice; and G Kennedy Thompson who was CEO of Wachovia until it became Wells Fargo. And Verizon's NSA complicit president Lawrence T Babbio Junior. And Netscape's founder whose startup concatanated into Time-Warner ISP monopoly with whom AT&T sticks web inventing America as twenty sixth in internet speed. South Korea has 8 times America's speed for cheaper. The legacy of bullshit in Interpublic is awe inspiring. In the nineteen forties they told America that the corn syrup and dye called Sunkist was actually equivalent to drinking an orange. As it turns out corn syrup is more equivalent to a depopulation agent as it leads to a myriad of heath defects. Interpublic represented Brown and Williamson Tobacco before they became RJR Nabisco. Interpublic: the hydra of companies selling lies inspired Mad Men. Ineterpublic represented RJR Nabisco AKA Phillip Morris and yes Lucky Strikes. RJR Nabisco includes Kraft. Near Mad Men's end they are taken over by one of Interpublic's names at that time: McCann Erickson. Despite Interpublic's racism and sexism attracting members of the Reagan family as employees, !@#$-erotic artist Tom from Finland started there. McCann World-group also came up with the commercial associating universal love with Coca-Cola. Not unlike having their later Pepsi as a protest verses cops resolution. This equation of consumerism equals virtue creates the artificial world which Postmodern French philosopher Jean Baudrillard outlined in "Simulacra and Simulation" which inspired the 19-99 blockbuster The Matrix and the book can be seen as Neo as Thomas Anderson grabs his hackery hidden inside that book opening to the chapter on Nihilism. Baudrillard is also directly quoted by Morpheus in this famous line:
 
Eighties Interpublic's McCann Erickson equated Nescafe with love. This became the Arabica coffee marketing standard even with family: leading to parody. Interpublic white-washed the LAPD after Rodney King- an event also symbolized in the beating of Morpheus by Matrix Agent directed police. They continued for HP which used Redington Gulf for 120 million in illegal sales to sanctioned Iran. Interpublic started a Tremor campaign recruiting teenagers to sell for Proctor and Gamble through word of mouth. Interpublic's Weber Shandwick has a plethora of dirty work for Timberland the rainforest loggers from New Zealand. Part of their work included knocking occupied protester sitting platforms out of trees with 5 ton logs airlifted by helicopters to swing as battering rams. And plastering "third wave" environmentalism everywhere which is public faced green-washing with no substance. Interpublic invited the World Wildlife Fund to a trip with Timberland just to photograph the two groups together falsifying they were in cohoots. Interpublic invited the World Wildlife Fund to a trip with Timberland just to photograph the two groups together falsifying they were in cohoots. Timberland's local populace opposed the rainforest logging by a tune of 95%; yet like CNN which has 6% approval rating, Interpublic painted them as mainstream. Illusionist Interpublic conjured Timberland a necessity to community economics. In reality it was 2 dozen people who were working the most dangerous rated civilian job available. Interpublic painted a picture of countless families dependent on rain forest logging.Interpublic created a fake group West Coast Voice of the Coast Action Network that would spread the lie of a people dependent on rain forest destruction. Inter public created its own journalism and bought journalists of surrounding vendors to push for rain forest destruction. Interpublic started the trend in manufactured news still used today; which is to only report the most extreme protesters while working to co-opt the moderate activists or push them into criminal activity with crisis actors. Either way Interpublic's moles would collect information on the activist agenda. Interpublic's intelligence operatives would penetrate and monitor all anti-loggers.
 
The Body Shop which sells spa supplies took to standing up to rain forest loggers which meant that Interpublic began working around the clock to dig up dirt discrediting The Body Shop. Interpublic fought The Body Shop for pointing out Shell Oil sponsored assassinations of Nigerian leaders. The anti-fracking poetry of Ken Saro-Wiwa in particular became grounds for assassination. Interpublic backs shale fracking companies Green Peace opposes: like Sandefer Capital Partners. Interpublic is behind Global Climate Information Project attacking climate science for oil baron clients. Interpublic's Weber Shandwick backs the Japanese Whaling Association. They made up the lie of Japanese cultural whaling; especially bogus considering the whaling is 6,000 miles fromJapanese Coasts. Intepublic's Weber Shandwick also takes the spotlight off of Unilever and their vicious practice of animal testing for their products like Axe Body Spray, Dove Soap, Palmolive Dish Soap and Suave Shampoo. 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The MWW Group tentacle of Interpublic covers up animal torture from Swiss pharma company Novartis. Interpublic also covers up the evergreening of Novartis. They cover up Pfizer genetically modified AIDS virus which leaked and spread. Interpublic also backs Bayer which knowingly infected consumers with the AIDS virus. Bayer as a derivation of the Nazi war machine IG Farben created Zyklon B. As well as creating Heroin. But Bayer is considered common pain reliever thanks to Interpublic. Interpublic's Golan Harris arm got Dow off the hook for the Bhopal disaster. Another chemically twisted company they run point for is Monsanto. In fact their behind National Pest Control Association which covers a plethora of bad pesticides and Interpublic figures out how to stifle news of the side-effect deformities. Interpublic's McCann Erickson also specializes in Army recruitment propaganda. Interpublic hid stock frickery of Worldcom leading to a greater bubble than Enron. 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All there videos were great if any still up..

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Ooph.

 

Probability listings, in order of increasing probability:

 

-Whales suddenly materializing in the middle of the air above the middle of nowhere, and spontaneously exploding.

 

-The CIA having worked to engineer two variants of HIV specifically to target homosexuals and Africans.

 

-Noctis ever being a good poster.

 

-The incessant and doubtless downvotes you'll receive here.

 

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That said, there's a variety of ways the idea "AIDS was man-made" can be construed as true.

 

-AIDS, as a concept, is the product of the international medical establishment.

 

-AIDS, as a human disease, requires a human being's white blood cells to manifest.

 

-HIV, as a variant of a simian virus, was probably developed by someone in interspecies intercourse with an infected animal, or by eating inadequately sanitized bushmeat.

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[The experiments] consisted of taking monkey viruses that were harmless to humans, recombining them with DNA, RNA and enzymes from other animal viruses that were known to cause leukemias, lymphomas, and sarcomas; then causing them to jump species. The new mutant viruses were cultured into human white blood cells in some studies, and in other studies human fetal tissues, which [reportedly] produced "immune-system destroying, cancer-causing viruses". The scientist who was directing the tests was Dr. Robert Gallo.
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YouTube I CREATED AIDS to DELIBERATELY DEPOPULATE HUMANITY - Dr Robert Gallo In 1969 at a House Appropriations hearing, the Defense Department's Biological Warfare unit requested funds to develop, through gene-splicing, a new disease that would be resistant to treatment and break down a victim's immune system. https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmaxcdn1.laprogressive.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F05%2FBiological-Weapons-700.jpg&f=1

They received $10 million (H.B. 15090), to produce "a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired." In the 1972 Bulletin of the U.N.'s World Health Organization (WHO), volume 47, it says: [Recommendation (3):] "An attempt should be made to see if viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function. The possibility should be looked into that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the inflicting virus damages, more or less selectively, the cell responding to the virus." -- "Virus Associated Immunopathology: Animal models and implications for human disease", WHO Bulletin, 1972, vol 47, no 2, pg 259 n 1975, Dr. Robert Gallo and eight other scientists (working at the Bethesda Cancer Research Center in Maryland) had been working to modify the genetic structure of the virus so that it could be more easily transmitted. That same year, after Fort Detrick had become demilitarized, the newly established Frederick Cancer Research Facility was placed under the direction of the Bethesda Cancer Research Center where Gallo was the Director. https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fescolifesciences.us%2Fimages%2Fupload%2F1382427503.jpg

 

ZeroZbrzezinski January 16, 2018 3:03 AM 4:44-4:51

YouTube Bushvision Ann Bressington Exposes Agenda 21, Club of Rome One investigation revealed that in March, 1976, a special federal government virus development program began producing the AIDS virus, and it was headed by Dr. Gallo and Dr. Novakhatskiy of the Ivanosku Institute in Russia. Gallo would later be investigated and found guilty of scientific misconduct, but President Clinton pardoned him. https://missiongalacticfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/aids-creator.jpg?w=629&h=476

In response to the charges that AIDS was developed as a military biological warfare weapon, in February, 1987, Army Col. David Huxsoll said: "Studies at army laboratories have shown that the AIDS virus would be an extremely poor biological warfare agent." He later denied saying it. 20:02-20:11 https://www.c-span.org/video/?169459-1/alternative-perspectives-war-terrorism

  
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42 minutes ago, CandyShi said:

Is your source scientific at all? Recombining viruses with an enzyme would only help in possibly testing a virus not creating them, as without the genetic material to synthesize the proteins the enzymes wouldn't be produced and therefore are irrelevant after the first instance of replication. In addition, HIV doesn't have DNA, it has single-stranded RNA as its genetic material. 

 

Is this the same Dr. Gallo that received the Nobel Prize for discovering the HIV-AIDS relationship and was granted 15m by the Gates family to (attempt to) discover a vaccine? 

 

Of all the stupid conspiracy theorists, of course Noctis would be one of them and believe in something this retarded. 

 

I don't see how you could make the conclusion that HIV targets homosexuals or Africans, since HIV transmits through bodily fluid contact. 

You realize Gates is a big proponent of population reduction; he doesn't even hide it. He's even said in interviews that cures getting into the wrong people's hands would be problematic & think more people dying; as well as more sterilized in 3rd World Countries a good thing. So he funds all kinds of shady stuff under the veil of vaccines. It was through vaccines. Vaccines are often used for nefarious purposes, Bayer which knowingly infected consumers with the AIDS virus. He likely funded money towards its development.

The Bayer incident they knew they were infected, then sold them Europe instead of the US.

Although this guy explain why the monkey theory doesn't work & its man made; as well as had ideas on how to cure it and wanted to expose the DoD before being killed.

 

 

 

[quote] Strecker Memorandum - Dr. Robert Strecker (Dissapeared) - Part 1of6

Strecker's research indicated that the AIDS virus was developed by the Frederick Cancer Research Facility of the National Cancer Institute, in cooperation with the WHO, in their laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland (which until 1969 was part of the U.S. Army's germ warfare unit, known as the Army Infectious Disease Unit, or Special Operations Division) by combining bovine (cattle) leukemia virus and visna (sheep) virus, and injecting them into human tissue cultures.

The bovine leukemia virus is lethal to cattle, but not to humans; and the visna virus is deadly to sheep, but not to man. However, when combined, they produce a retro-virus that can change the genetic composition of the cells that they enter. He said:

"If one analyzes the genes of the human AIDS virus and the genes of the bovine leukemia virus of cattle and the visna virus of sheep, and compares them, the genes appear related. How is it possible that the bovine visna virus -- which looks like AIDS and produces an AIDS-like disease, and which produced pneumocystis carinii pneumonia in chimpanzees in 1972 -- has not been analyzed and compared with AIDS ... until 1987 when 'Characterization and Molecular Cloning of Bovine Lente (Latin for 'slow') Virus Related to Human Immunodeficiency Virus' was published in Nature magazine. Matthew Gonda, the author, described a virus that looks like AIDS, named bovine visna virus, and suggested that it was most closely related to AIDS and may well be its precursor."

On August 11, 1988, Ted Strecker, Dr. Strecker's brother was found shot to death in his home in Springfield, Missouri. His death was ruled a suicide. 

Strecker Memorandum - Dr. Robert Strecker (Dissapeared) - Part 5of6

A month later on September 22, 1988, Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of Chicago was found dead in his home. The autopsy revealed that he died of a stroke as a result of an overdose of cocaine and heroin. Rep. Huff just happened to be a very vocal supporter of Dr. Strecker's work to publicize the AIDS cover-up.
 
If the AIDS virus had originated with the monkeys, then the disease would have surfaced with the Pygmies, who are closer to them, and use them as a food source, yet, it appeared first in the cities.

TLDR: Agenda 21 is the population reduction agenda, which is supported by a lot of billionaires & NWO types; who think over population is a problem which needs to constantly be fought. The Club of Rome & CFR are bad. AIDS is their fault.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, CandyShi said:

Is your source scientific at all? Recombining viruses with an enzyme would only help in possibly testing a virus not creating them, as without the genetic material to synthesize the proteins the enzymes wouldn't be produced and therefore are irrelevant after the first instance of replication. In addition, HIV doesn't have DNA, it has single-stranded RNA as its genetic material. 

 

Is this the same Dr. Gallo that received the Nobel Prize for discovering the HIV-AIDS relationship and was granted 15m by the Gates family to (attempt to) discover a vaccine? 

 

Of all the stupid conspiracy theorists, of course Noctis would be one of them and believe in something this retarded. 

 

I don't see how you could make the conclusion that HIV targets homosexuals or Africans, since HIV transmits through bodily fluid contact. 

I want to point out here that I am referring to the CIA being responsible for HIV as something that is possible, but highly improbable due to lack of evidence and the sheer unthinkableness of such a genocide. I mean, it could definitely be true, but the only way you could know exclusively would be if the CIA or the relevant organization archives were opened, and they said, yes, we did it, we killed a couple of million people with biowarfare. That's extremely unlikely to happen.

 

As far as HIV goes, there are two varieties, one which is optimized for transmission by vaginal sex, and the other which is optimized for transmission by anal sex. The former is more common in Africa, where the HIV epidemic is not limited by sexual orientation, and the latter is more common in the West, where AIDS is most common in the male homosexual community. This is considered an example of pathogen evolution; i.e, HIV went from a variant that infected simians, to a variant that infected humans, to a variant that was optimized for spread in the gay community.

 

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TBH, on thinking of the subject for a bit, the "CIA created AIDS theory" is an example of something that is possible (remember that the US killed a million or so in North Korean strategic bombing), but for which there is insufficient evidence to believe such a thing is true. Because the accusation is so heinous, it's not really worth speculating about.

 

Moreover, I'd point out that the Soviets (now the Russians) and the Chinese would have great incentives to obtain sufficient evidence to prove such a thing is true. They'd be able to score incredible political points if it could ever be proven that the United States committed a massive democide against all the peoples of the world. But have they been able to prove it, given that both have state-level resources and well-developed intelligence services? Most certainly not.

 

So leave the subject to the Russians and Chinese, and we should focus on better things to do with our lives and time.

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1 hour ago, Inst said:

I want to point out here that I am referring to the CIA being responsible for HIV as something that is possible, but highly improbable due to lack of evidence and the sheer unthinkableness of such a genocide. I mean, it could definitely be true, but the only way you could know exclusively would be if the CIA or the relevant organization archives were opened, and they said, yes, we did it, we killed a couple of million people with biowarfare. That's extremely unlikely to happen.

 

As far as HIV goes, there are two varieties, one which is optimized for transmission by vaginal sex, and the other which is optimized for transmission by anal sex. The former is more common in Africa, where the HIV epidemic is not limited by sexual orientation, and the latter is more common in the West, where AIDS is most common in the male homosexual community. This is considered an example of pathogen evolution; i.e, HIV went from a variant that infected simians, to a variant that infected humans, to a variant that was optimized for spread in the gay community.

 

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TBH, on thinking of the subject for a bit, the "CIA created AIDS theory" is an example of something that is possible (remember that the US killed a million or so in North Korean strategic bombing), but for which there is insufficient evidence to believe such a thing is true. Because the accusation is so heinous, it's not really worth speculating about.

 

Moreover, I'd point out that the Soviets (now the Russians) and the Chinese would have great incentives to obtain sufficient evidence to prove such a thing is true. They'd be able to score incredible political points if it could ever be proven that the United States committed a massive democide against all the peoples of the world. But have they been able to prove it, given that both have state-level resources and well-developed intelligence services? Most certainly not.

 

So leave the subject to the Russians and Chinese, and we should focus on better things to do with our lives and time.

lol, a lot more than 2 variation.

The Science of HIV/AIDS

ZeroZbrzezinski  January 18, 2018 2:23 AM 

Professor William Haseltine of the Harvard Medical School, in a presentation to a University audience, said that:

"anyone who tells you categorically that AIDS is not contracted by saliva is not telling you the truth. AIDS may in fact be transmissible by tears, saliva, bodily fluids, and mosquito bites."

0-14 https://youtu.be/BOLWNbopE8g

Later research studies have shown that HIV/AIDS cannot be easily transmitted by mosquitoes or other biting insects

180 different AIDS viruses and 300 strains, which makes blood testing meaningless.

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.slidesharecdn.com%2Fmy7thseminar-160520131048%2F95%2Fhiv-aids-recent-advances-2016-5-638.jpg%3Fcb%3D1463750078&sp=bf49beddc27ea619066ebdc7243c10bb

Although what suck is all their document links seem to be messed up & just the transcripts of the original video are left.

https://pastelink.net/aafd

 

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HIV-1 and HIV-2 are the two main strains, under which many other strains fall.

 

Are you familiar with viral genetics? These things mutate like crazy and each individual infection, or even each individual virus, might have a different genetic code and set of properties.

 

Noctis, we're both considered conspiracy theorists in this game, but the difference is that I'm a probablist who deals in risk. I suggest you read some skeptics writing to train you on how to think.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Wrong-Isaac-Asimov/dp/155817169X Is out of print and hard to get a set of, but it's detailing specifically how scientific theories become outmoded.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G3L6JQ4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 is another fun little book, and handles common logical fallacies.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Epistemology-Contemporary-Introduction-Introductions-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B00466H4TE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=introduction+to+epistemology&qid=1570780281&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 You can also try this, but a digital edition isn't available.

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19 minutes ago, Inst said:

HIV-1 and HIV-2 are the two main strains, under which many other strains fall.

 

Are you familiar with viral genetics? These things mutate like crazy and each individual infection, or even each individual virus, might have a different genetic code and set of properties.

 

Noctis, we're both considered conspiracy theorists in this game, but the difference is that I'm a probablist who deals in risk. I suggest you read some skeptics writing to train you on how to think.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Wrong-Isaac-Asimov/dp/155817169X Is out of print and hard to get a set of, but it's detailing specifically how scientific theories become outmoded.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G3L6JQ4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 is another fun little book, and handles common logical fallacies.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Epistemology-Contemporary-Introduction-Introductions-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B00466H4TE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=introduction+to+epistemology&qid=1570780281&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 You can also try this, but a digital edition isn't available.

Those are the main strains they know to test for; although many other strains & mutations. Wonder what plague upon humanity the Agenda 21 proponents come up with next, maybe a zombie virus next. Where it makes them more aggressive in spreading it.

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17 minutes ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

Those are the main strains they know to test for; although many other strains & mutations. Wonder what plague upon humanity the Agenda 21 proponents come up with next, maybe a zombie virus next. Where it makes them more aggressive in spreading it.

There are already enough doomsday scenarios to worry about without resorting to conspiracy theories.

 

My evaluation of a hypothesis:

 

"If true, then what?"

 

For instance, let's consider the hypothesis that the moon is made out of cheese. If the moon is made out of cheese, what are the implications of such? What kind of cheese is it? If society as a whole discovered the moon was made out of cheese, how would that change our lives? In practice, it wouldn't. It might raise interesting scientific questions about why the moon is made out of cheese (probably evidence for simulation hypothesis), but given the low cost of terrestrial cheese it wouldn't make a dent in anyone's lives.

 

In this case, if AIDS was in fact the creation of American scientists, it wouldn't change our lives because most people are low-power individuals within the American World System or American Tianxia (look it up, it's a good book). For the majority of recorded history, most people have been low power individuals (slaves, serfs, peasants). What they believe does not matter. Modern American liberalism extolls the individual, but in actual fact, even if a government doesn't oppress you, you still live within a society that has norms which may not to be your taste, you still hold a job which allows individuals and corporations to control your survival.

 

Yes, there'd be a tremendous blow to American prestige, and perhaps the organizations and individuals involved would be punished, but then what? Do you get a raise? Does so and so decide they like you? Are your children going to better schools as a consequence?

 

Next:

 

"What strong evidence is there for the hypothesis?"

 

In the case of AIDS being the creation of the American government, we've had zero Snowden-class leaks implicating the American government or any particular conspiratorial group on this. Even if your hypothesis is worth paying attention to (it's not), we have no strong evidence for it. We wouldn't be able to get any strong evidence for it, because it'd be a scandal of enormous proportions and the individuals involved would be able to do an exceptional cover-up.

 

"What weak evidence is there for the hypothesis?"

 

This is the only merit of the AIDS conspiracy theory. We know for a fact that people were concerned about overpopulation in Africa, and there were interest groups for which male homosexuality posed a problem. Foucault, for instance, died of AIDS after a wicked sexcapade in the San Francisco gay scene. The alleged perpetrators came from a society that was racist (anti-Black) and homophobic, and being able to kill such individuals would have been of benefit to them.

 

The problem with your conspiracy theory is that it only meets the third criteria; i.e, there were incentives for HIV to be engineered by American or Western-backed scientists. If it met the first criteria, the important thing would be to satisfy the second criteria by obtaining strong evidence, and even then it wouldn't be within the capability of random individuals to expose. But it doesn't, so it goes into the category of "Not Even Wrong", or not worth thinking about.

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5 minutes ago, Forsteri said:

Why is this a topic were you microwaved as a child OP 

Some people think it still got transmitted from monkeys; so wanted to see if there was any intelligence here. Although seems Inst has the highest IQ of those who have responded so far. lol

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1 minute ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

Some people think it still got transmitted from monkeys; so wanted to see if there was any intelligence here. Although seems Inst has the highest IQ of those who have responded so far. lol

I can tell you now there is not much intelligence here right now 

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47 minutes ago, Forsteri said:

Why is this a topic were you microwaved as a child OP 

Noctis has a bunch of obsessions (you know what mine are). I'm trying to talk him into recognizing that his obsessions are not worthwhile, as well as lead him to more rigorous thought. It's easier for me because I'm a philosophical skeptic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism , https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism/ ) because my arguments aren't based on "you're wrong" but rather "you're worse than wrong / this isn't worth thinking about".

 

Of course, the side effect is that strictly speaking, I can't tell if every moment before the present one is a delusion, that I'm not a brain in a jar being fed false electrical stimuli, or that all logical systems aren't delusions either.

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6 minutes ago, Forsteri said:

I can tell you now there is not much intelligence here right now 

Guess you didn't watch the video they mentioned how both Gay New Yorkers and Black Africans were the first to receive the first hepatitis vaccine which infected them? Former AIDS Czar of the WHO before quitting said more than a medical problem its socio-political problem. 

"July 24, 19-80, a two-volume document called "Global 2000 Report," called for U.S. population reduction of 100 million by year 2050. University of Florida marine biologist and Club Rome member Howard T. Odum, was quoted in the August, 1980 edition of Fusion magazine: "It is necessary that the United States cut its population by two-thirds within the next 50 years." That happens to equal population poisoned by chromium 6 in the American water table. It seems a ridiculous area to cull considering that 5% of the world population lives on 30% of the usable land mass. Reacting to charges of AIDS as a military biological warfare weapon, in February, 1987, Army Col. David Huxsoll said: "Studies at army laboratories have shown that the AIDS virus would be an extremely poor biological warfare agent." He later denied saying it.

Do you even believe the United States creates viruses intentionally at all or just think with HIV its impossible since you've been told different your life? Or even believe Club of Rome believes population reduction necessary or they're a real organization? Guessing you still believe SIV jumped naturally from money to humans; since that's what you've been told by your government all your life. :P

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12 minutes ago, Inst said:

Noctis has a bunch of obsessions (you know what mine are). I'm trying to talk him into recognizing that his obsessions are not worthwhile, as well as lead him to more rigorous thought. It's easier for me because I'm a philosophical skeptic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism , https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism/ ) because my arguments aren't based on "you're wrong" but rather "you're worse than wrong / this isn't worth thinking about".

 

Of course, the side effect is that strictly speaking, I can't tell if every moment before the present one is a delusion, that I'm not a brain in a jar being fed false electrical stimuli, or that all logical systems aren't delusions either.

Opening a discussion isn't an obsession. Although I find the theory of it randomly jumping from monkeys to humans far less likely than it being the result of modifying combining different similar viruses in animals, like BLV & possible SIV in order to create a new virus; which was then given to people as vaccines. Although would be interesting hearing any type of scientific evidence of the ability of SIV to naturally mutate into HIV.

Think the possibility of SIV turning into HIV on its own is just as likely as BLV turning into HIV on its own; both similar viruses which don't effect people. Although the government did want a virus like HIV created for them. (Which slowly destroys somebodies immune system)

"MVV infection in sheep and HIV-1 infection in humans have a number of features in common such as a long preclinical period following transmission, and a slow development of multiorgan disease with fatal outcome. A brief early acute phase, which is terminated by the immune response, is also an interesting common feature. Like HIV-1, MVV is macrophage tropic and the early stages of the HIV-1 infection which affect the central nervous system and the lungs are in many ways comparable to maedi-visna. In contrast to HIV-1, MVV does not infect T-lymphocytes and does not cause T-cell depletion and immunodeficiency. This is responsible for the difference in the late stages of the HIV-1 and MVV infections and the final clinical outcome. Despite limited sequence homology, certain proteins of MVV and HIV-1 show structural and functional similarities."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16425963

"This article proposes a series of experiments to determine if cows and sheep could be used as animal models for HIV-1, the AIDS virus. To justify this effort, a substantial case is presented that HIV-1 is a natural recombinant of Bovine Leukemia Virus (BLV) and Visna Virus. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8289690

Possible other variations also included SIV & other viruses; however I think a combination of MVV & BLV created by people is more likely than the theory of it naturally jumping from Monkeys to people.

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9 minutes ago, ForgotPants said:

Given recent events, I am not even a little bit surprised to see you believe in this. What are your thoughts on the moon landing and chemtrails?

Its a fact they're spraying stuff in the sky to try modifying the weather and "combat" global warming. I don't have a telescope powerful enough to see anything they left on the Moon & seems we need to reinvent the technology to get there almost; so don't have a strong opinion on it. Its possible they could have faked it in order to beat the Russians; also possible they got there after (or the first time). Although I don't blindly believe everything the government says & can see why people are skeptical. I don't think the government would have any moral issues with faking it though. lol

Also just a fact the government has or had bio weapon programs to develop viruses; as well as many of the Nazi Scientists coming to the United States after WWII in order to work for the US Government.

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1 hour ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

Its a fact they're spraying stuff in the sky to try modifying the weather and "combat" global warming. I don't have a telescope powerful enough to see anything they left on the Moon & seems we need to reinvent the technology to get there almost; so don't have a strong opinion on it. Its possible they could have faked it in order to beat the Russians; also possible they got there after (or the first time). Although I don't blindly believe everything the government says & can see why people are skeptical. I don't think the government would have any moral issues with faking it though. lol

Also just a fact the government has or had bio weapon programs to develop viruses; as well as many of the Nazi Scientists coming to the United States after WWII in order to work for the US Government.

Thing is, with chemtrails, there's actually people who seriously want to aerosolize the air to increase albedo and reduce insolation. And given how many people believe global warming is a severe threat, you don't need to do it surreptitiously.

 

I think your underlying belief is a need to think "I'm right, and everyone else is wrong", and subscribe to the most zany theories that don't concern you. If you can hold a 9-5 job, that's fine, there's many people with bad epistemology and faulty reasoning, the only baseline in most societies is whether you pay income tax.

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Thing is, with chemtrails, there's actually people who seriously want to aerosolize the air to increase albedo and reduce insolation. And given how many people believe global warming is a severe threat, you don't need to do it surreptitiously.

 

I think your underlying belief is a need to think "I'm right, and everyone else is wrong", and subscribe to the most zany theories that don't concern you. If you can hold a 9-5 job, that's fine, there's many people with bad epistemology and faulty reasoning, the only baseline in most societies is whether you pay income tax.

Not really, I'm more open minded than most. I can think of a lot more people who have very set viewpoints and think everyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong. The most blatant cases being those who always believe the government version of events as always right & think anyone who questions it is always wrong.

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5 hours ago, Inst said:

There are already enough doomsday scenarios to worry about without resorting to conspiracy theories.

 

My evaluation of a hypothesis:

 

"If true, then what?"

 

For instance, let's consider the hypothesis that the moon is made out of cheese. If the moon is made out of cheese, what are the implications of such? What kind of cheese is it? If society as a whole discovered the moon was made out of cheese, how would that change our lives? In practice, it wouldn't. It might raise interesting scientific questions about why the moon is made out of cheese (probably evidence for simulation hypothesis), but given the low cost of terrestrial cheese it wouldn't make a dent in anyone's lives.

 

In this case, if AIDS was in fact the creation of American scientists, it wouldn't change our lives because most people are low-power individuals within the American World System or American Tianxia (look it up, it's a good book). For the majority of recorded history, most people have been low power individuals (slaves, serfs, peasants). What they believe does not matter. Modern American liberalism extolls the individual, but in actual fact, even if a government doesn't oppress you, you still live within a society that has norms which may not to be your taste, you still hold a job which allows individuals and corporations to control your survival.

 

Yes, there'd be a tremendous blow to American prestige, and perhaps the organizations and individuals involved would be punished, but then what? Do you get a raise? Does so and so decide they like you? Are your children going to better schools as a consequence?

 

Next:

 

"What strong evidence is there for the hypothesis?"

 

In the case of AIDS being the creation of the American government, we've had zero Snowden-class leaks implicating the American government or any particular conspiratorial group on this. Even if your hypothesis is worth paying attention to (it's not), we have no strong evidence for it. We wouldn't be able to get any strong evidence for it, because it'd be a scandal of enormous proportions and the individuals involved would be able to do an exceptional cover-up.

 

"What weak evidence is there for the hypothesis?"

 

This is the only merit of the AIDS conspiracy theory. We know for a fact that people were concerned about overpopulation in Africa, and there were interest groups for which male homosexuality posed a problem. Foucault, for instance, died of AIDS after a wicked sexcapade in the San Francisco gay scene. The alleged perpetrators came from a society that was racist (anti-Black) and homophobic, and being able to kill such individuals would have been of benefit to them.

 

The problem with your conspiracy theory is that it only meets the third criteria; i.e, there were incentives for HIV to be engineered by American or Western-backed scientists. If it met the first criteria, the important thing would be to satisfy the second criteria by obtaining strong evidence, and even then it wouldn't be within the capability of random individuals to expose. But it doesn't, so it goes into the category of "Not Even Wrong", or not worth thinking about.

If you looked at some of what was posted, how it spread was the first hepatitis vaccine was given to Homesexual in New York & Black People in Afrika; which is how it was spread initially & probably a lot of the stigma of it being associated with homosexuals & black people. Since they were infected with a vaccine 

"Strecker's research indicated that the AIDS virus was developed by the Frederick Cancer Research Facility of the National Cancer Institute, in cooperation with the WHO, in their laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland (which until 1969 was part of the U.S. Army's germ warfare unit, known as the Army Infectious Disease Unit, or Special Operations Division) by combining bovine (cattle) leukemia virus and visna (sheep) virus, and injecting them into human tissue cultures. The bovine leukemia virus is lethal to cattle, but not to humans; and the visna virus is deadly to sheep, but not to man. However, when combined, they produce a retro-virus that can change the genetic composition of the cells that they enter. He said: "If one analyzes the genes of the human AIDS virus and the genes of the bovine leukemia virus of cattle and the visna virus of sheep, and compares them, the genes appear related. How is it possible that the bovine visna virus -- which looks like AIDS and produces an AIDS-like disease, and which produced pneumocystis carinii pneumonia in chimpanzees in 1972 -- has not been analyzed and compared with AIDS ... until 1987 when 'Characterization and Molecular Cloning of Bovine Lente (Latin for 'slow') Virus Related to Human Immunodeficiency Virus' was published in Nature magazine. Matthew Gonda, the author, described a virus that looks like AIDS, named bovine visna virus, and suggested that it was most closely related to AIDS and may well be its precursor."

On August 11, 1988,

Ted Strecker, Dr. Strecker's brother was found shot to death in his home in Springfield, Missouri. His death was ruled a suicide. Strecker Memorandum - Dr. Robert Strecker (Dissapeared) - Part 5of6 A month later on September 22, 1988, Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of Chicago was found dead in his home. The autopsy revealed that he died of a stroke as a result of an overdose of cocaine and heroin. Rep. Huff just happened to be a very vocal supporter of Dr. Strecker's work to publicize the AIDS cover-up."


Maedi-visna virus and its relationship to human immunodeficiency virus.|
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16425963


"They cover up Pfizer genetically modified AIDS virus which leaked and spread. Interpublic also backs Bayer which knowingly infected consumers with the AIDS virus. Bayer as a derivation of the Nazi war machine IG Farben created Zyklon B."

Now notice one of them even has Pfizer in its name (and Mason) Betaretrovirus Mason-Pfizer monkey virus
Animal Models for HIV AIDS: A Comparative
Review
Table 1. Viruses of the family Retroviridae47,93
Family Virus
Alpharetrovirus Avian carcinoma virus
Avian leucosis virus
Avian myelocytomatosis virus
Fujinami sarcoma virus
Rous sarcoma virus
Episilonretrovirus Snakehead retrovirus
Walleye dermal sarcoma virus
Abelson murine leukemia virus
Friend murine leukemia virus
Murine osteosarcoma virus
Murine sarcoma virus
Murine type C retrovirus
Porcine endogenous retrovirus
Spleen focus-forming virus
Spumavirus Bovine foamy virus
Equine foamy virus
Human spumaretrovirus
Simian foamy virus
Feline foamy virus
Betaretrovirus Mason-Pfizer monkey virus
Ovine pulmonary adenocarcinoma virus
Mouse mammary tumor virus
Simian type D virus 1
Deltaretrovirus Bovine leukemia virus
Human T-lymphotropic virus 1
Simian T-lymphotropic virus 1
Human T-lymphotropic virus 2
Simian T-lymphotropic virus 2
Simian T-lymphotropic virus 3
Gammaretrovirus Feline leukemia virus
Moloney murine sarcoma virus
Murine leukemia virus
Wooly monkey sarcoma virus
Lentivirus Bovine immunodeficiency virus
Jembrana disease virus
Caprine arthritis encephalitis virus
Ovine lentivirus
Visna virus
Equine infectious anemia virus
Feline immunodeficiency virus
Human immunodeficiency virus 1
Human immunodeficiency virus 2
Simian immunodeficiency virus
Simian immunodeficiency virus 2
Simian-human immunodeficiency virus (SHIV)

https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/aalas/cm/2007/00000057/00000001/art00003?crawler=true

So I'm not obsessed with it, I just noticed all things being censored off the internet talking about it; which I think added more credibility to it. One of the HIV like viruses being named after Pfizer adds to the claim they were working on modified versions of the virus. Also posted an article about how similiar MVV is to HIV; which is claimed to be combined with BLV. There are more articles talking about the likelihood of it being combination of those 2 viruses. Also considering even the Senator who supported making public the truth about HIV was killed; also adds credibility to it.

Now for those who are 100% convinced it wasn't created by people, why would one of them be named after Pzifer; the drug company accused in the DeepDox Article of creating a modified version of it. Bayer is said to have given a bunch of vaccines known to be infected with HIV to customers in Europe as well.

So mostly I found they're trying to censor information about it off the internet interesting. Also of course for those who already don't realize Club of Rome & conspirators have so much power and influence; which nefarious purposes. Although I guess so what could be said of any discussion topic, haven't heard any credible alternatives given to its origin though. Although I think Pfizer naming a strain after their company is enough supporting evidence; people interested can look more up themselves. Although not going to track down sources for every claim made with the source link dead.

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Good tidings, comrade!

First of all, you're not a conspiracy theorist, just to get that out of the way. You are however a libertarian, and

Please re-stock your tinfoil hats,

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2 hours ago, Comrade Marx said:

This thread is what happens when you take Brain Force+.

What happens when the government suddenly starts trying to censor information off the internet, adds credibility they were on the right track. Also a lot of stuff which I don’t have links for they showed the proof in the video. Like the Army General who said it wasn’t useful as a bio weapon & later denied it, etc.

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6 hours ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said:

What happens when the government suddenly starts trying to censor information off the internet, adds credibility they were on the right track. Also a lot of stuff which I don’t have links for they showed the proof in the video. Like the Army General who said it wasn’t useful as a bio weapon & later denied it, etc.

Operation: InfeKtion (the first video)

"AIDS is a USA bioweapon" is one of the KGB's most well-known disinformation campaigns from the late 70's to mid 80's. The USA actually got Gorbachev to admit to and apologize to Reagan for the false story. However, while it was forgotten about by most educated westerners, the third world decades later learned about the story but decided to run with it because "USA sucks."

Congratulations on believing videos made by ignorant anti-american propagandists, the USA has done tons of evil and shitty things over the centuries (COINTELPRO, Iran-Contra, literally anything involving Native Americans, etc.) that using bullshit made-up stories only makes you look like an idiot and entrenches ignorant Americans who believe that the USA did nothing wrong.

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