Faravahar Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 8:05 PM, Inconnu said: The most important reason why this war should stop is that's it's boring as f%&#. But the numbers are probably true, I'm still making more than 20M per day at 800 Infra. This could go on forever unfortunately. Said the guy who is blockaded and plundered 56 minutes ago, Elijah Mikaelson said: Fast forward to 2029 Col A: We making you burn resources Col B: We make more than we spend Leap forward 2039 Col A: We making you burn resources Col B: We make more than we spend See you all in 2049 Why do you care? just keep making profit of the war you dodged. and if that did't work go to VM and abandon your alliance. you should know these stuff you are the expert 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elijah Mikaelson Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Faravahar said: Said the guy who is blockaded and plundered Why do you care? just keep making profit of the war you dodged. and if that did't work go to VM and abandon your alliance. you should know these stuff you are the expert Yeah got blockaded and plundered by the very same people I joined the war for (Odin and the tCW guy was begged by BK to hit me as well BK has no whales), just like everyone else who left the war got hit for not wanting to remain a meat shield for BK, as for a war dodger, you might want to check your stats, willing to bet i took and did more damage than your nation but sure call that a war dodge. You lack knowledge of the truth, I would say you need to spend more time to gain knowledge then come back with your name calling and silly claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Frawley said: Funnily enough, I track baseball profits game wide too. You are also way behind. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Frawley said: Funnily enough, I track baseball profits game wide too. You are also way behind. I don't do baseball, I know others who do. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBOOTY Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Frawley said: Example of daily P/L for 2019-09-14 ... but your model still does not account for upkeep, which as I just demonstrated would flip even these numbers. Also that steel gap is absolutely incredible (and kinda the main reason why you guys are so far ahead number-wise here). Hopefully my coalition will start using less steel... Quote MR BOOTY IN DA HOUSE http://i.imgur.com/R5WWAB1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, MRBOOTY said: ... but your model still does not account for upkeep, which as I just demonstrated would flip even these numbers. Also that steel gap is absolutely incredible (and kinda the main reason why you guys are so far ahead number-wise here). Hopefully my coalition will start using less steel... It's net, not gross, it literally accounts for all upkeep. Get your head out of your ass lmfao. 2 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faravahar Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Elijah Mikaelson said: Yeah got blockaded and plundered by the very same people I joined the war for (Odin and the tCW guy was begged by BK to hit me as well BK has no whales), just like everyone else who left the war got hit for not wanting to remain a meat shield for BK, as for a war dodger, you might want to check your stats, willing to bet i took and did more damage than your nation but sure call that a war dodge. You lack knowledge of the truth, I would say you need to spend more time to gain knowledge then come back with your name calling and silly claims. I wasn't talking to you when I said being blockaded and plundered. I was talking to @Inconnu who bragged about making 20m a day. And I with 18 cities have higher net damage than you with 33 cities so don't bet on that. I know what happened to Yakuza and that's enough "knowledge" for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Malal said: It's net, not gross, it literally accounts for all upkeep. Get your head out of your ass lmfao. No it doesn't, actually read the chart, i know reading is hard for you. It doesn't actually mention units or upkeep of anything at all. Edited September 15, 2019 by Akuryo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDad Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 You looted $0, 29 Coal, 25 Oil, 39 Uranium, 5 Iron, 2 Bauxite, 9 Lead, 1,537 Gasoline, 1,593 Munitions, 1,416 Steel, 969 Aluminum, and 43,892 Food another 19 days of military upkeep covered. Hidden cost covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper_ Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 18 hours ago, Frawley said: Example of daily P/L for 2019-09-14 Could we normalize this on a per-city basis? Obviously, if you guys are bigger it's gonna have more net profits, but the per-city comparison will be able to actually show opportunity cost. Also, as for upkeep costs, I can extrapolate on a per-city basis using your stats for unit breakdown. These are net additional costs for coalition b cities versus coalition a cities. Soldiers: (8740 - 3349) * (1.88 + 149/500) = $11,523.80 Tanks: (152 - 25) * 75 = $9,525.00 Planes: (71 - 9) * 750 = $46,500 Ships: (3 - 0.5) * 5625 = $14,062.50 Total: $81,6111.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 hours ago, MRBOOTY said: ... but your model still does not account for upkeep, which as I just demonstrated would flip even these numbers. Also that steel gap is absolutely incredible (and kinda the main reason why you guys are so far ahead number-wise here). Hopefully my coalition will start using less steel... All military, improvement and other upkeep is included in the model. Its been tested against multiple alliances and it's usually at most a few cents off per nation per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Frawley said: All military, improvement and other upkeep is included in the model. Its been tested against multiple alliances and it's usually at most a few cents off per nation per day. Where's the upkeep shown, everything is labeled as resources. Closest it gets is milcashcost which I assume is the cost of buying units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Latest Akuryo Dunning Kruger. 1 Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Akuryo said: Where's the upkeep shown, everything is labeled as resources. Closest it gets is milcashcost which I assume is the cost of buying units. Upkeep isn't shown, I just gave the net figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Cooper_ said: Could we normalize this on a per-city basis? Obviously, if you guys are bigger it's gonna have more net profits, but the per-city comparison will be able to actually show opportunity cost. Also, as for upkeep costs, I can extrapolate on a per-city basis using your stats for unit breakdown. These are net additional costs for coalition b cities versus coalition a cities. Soldiers: (8740 - 3349) * (1.88 + 149/500) = $11,523.80 Tanks: (152 - 25) * 75 = $9,525.00 Planes: (71 - 9) * 750 = $46,500 Ships: (3 - 0.5) * 5625 = $14,062.50 Total: $81,6111.30 All upkeep is already included in the net numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, Frawley said: Upkeep isn't shown, I just gave the net figures. Should include that so people don't assume it's just of the numbers shown. 1 hour ago, Inst said: Latest Akuryo Dunning Kruger. It's truly incredible how much effort you put into deepthroating NPO and acting as if you have any intelligence. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Akuryo said: No it doesn't, actually read the chart, i know reading is hard for you. It doesn't actually mention units or upkeep of anything at all. I did, it literally says "net" above every single category so how about you quit being a dumbass Edited September 16, 2019 by Malal 4 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasky Darkfire Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 First, Everyone used the Stats Then, Everyone Mocked the stats, Now, We have devolved into arguing what is included in the stats against stats that where posted by MRBOOTY. Next we're going to be arguing if the . or , is the right separator for the place mark. Is it 1.000.000,00 or 1,000,000.00 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 8:58 PM, Pop said: Half of your active wars are negative net damage, so perhaps you should refine your strategy chief. Victory! You have defeated your opponent by decreasing their Resistance to 0! You looted $9,564,229, 122 Coal, 9 Oil, 411 Uranium, 135 Iron, 83 Bauxite, 316 Lead, 278 Gasoline, 83 Munitions, 230 Steel, 37 Aluminum, and 47,368 Food. You also destroyed 4% of the infrastructure in each of their cities. Additionally, you have looted 0.07% of your opponent's alliance bank, taking: $57,804, 0 Coal, 0 Oil, 0 Uranium, 0 Iron, 0 Bauxite, 0 Lead, 0 Gasoline, 0 Munitions, 0 Steel, 0 Aluminum, and 0 Food. Maybe I should refine my strategy. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Storm Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Victory! You have defeated your opponent by decreasing their Resistance to 0! You looted $9,564,229, 122 Coal, 9 Oil, 411 Uranium, 135 Iron, 83 Bauxite, 316 Lead, 278 Gasoline, 83 Munitions, 230 Steel, 37 Aluminum, and 47,368 Food. You also destroyed 4% of the infrastructure in each of their cities. Additionally, you have looted 0.07% of your opponent's alliance bank, taking: $57,804, 0 Coal, 0 Oil, 0 Uranium, 0 Iron, 0 Bauxite, 0 Lead, 0 Gasoline, 0 Munitions, 0 Steel, 0 Aluminum, and 0 Food. Maybe I should refine my strategy. Yes I was clearly referring to raiding a zeroed inactive for loot as bad. Certainly wasn't wondering why you'd bother keeping enough score to get downdec'd, and then nuking the guys that did it for -4.5m net damage a hit. When all you really needed to do is run a single boat to do that same looting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 That wasn't a inactive, but ok. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodosius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Akuryo said: Should include that so people don't assume it's just of the numbers shown. bruh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_(economics) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBOOTY Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Malal said: It's net, not gross, it literally accounts for all upkeep. Get your head out of your ass lmfao. Oof I am dum Edited September 16, 2019 by MRBOOTY Quote MR BOOTY IN DA HOUSE http://i.imgur.com/R5WWAB1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inconnu Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 hours ago, Faravahar said: I wasn't talking to you when I said being blockaded and plundered. I was talking to @Inconnu who bragged about making 20m a day. And I with 18 cities have higher net damage than you with 33 cities so don't bet on that. I know what happened to Yakuza and that's enough "knowledge" for me. Going into 8 wars at once will do that ? and damage is irrelevant at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBOOTY Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Wait @Frawleydo you count the Syndicate and other Coalition B alliances that have peaced out in the net earnings calculations? That alone could make the difference. Quote MR BOOTY IN DA HOUSE http://i.imgur.com/R5WWAB1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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