Kyubnyan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Maelstrom Vortex said: Wanted to apologize for my crappy performance kicking your butt. Weekend came and I went to sleep *chortle*. Oh well, there's always round two. Curse it.. someone already picked you up. Wow, 11 whole offensives. Someone's been kicking a loooooot of butt~~~ 3 Quote Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasky Darkfire Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Kyubnyan said: Wow, 11 whole offensives. Someone's been kicking a loooooot of butt~~~ You forgot to *Chortle* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I think the biggest thing about this is, at least for NPO/BK side is they believe that waiting another 1-2 months will bleed out KETOG side, it won't. Most of these alliances have established communities that aren't going to be gone because they were in a long state of war. So the bigger question is, for individual alliances, what does your individual alliance gain by sticking around another 2 months? @TheNG @Malal @Lionstar @El Chach @Curufinwe @Odin And before anyone says anything, I don't really have a stake in this, I just believe its amusing you guys are letting NPO play you like a fiddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkAk Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kastor said: So the bigger question is, for individual alliances, what does your individual alliance gain by sticking around another 2 months? It's pride. Ego. End of story. My only request is that this goes on long enough to get me over 4 billion looted. plskthx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossiya Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Etatsorp said: Pride is worth more than military units Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, sloth... Keep dying out of pride, we'll be happy to oblige. Edited September 11, 2019 by Rossiya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Rossiya said: Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath... You missed sloth, which is our main sin actually... @Smith and @Redarmy would know. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossiya Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, Ripper said: You missed sloth, which is our main sin actually... @Smith and @Redarmy would know. I guess I missed it out of sloth. There, it's back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rossiya said: Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, sloth... Keep dying out of pride, we'll be happy to oblige. Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, sloth... Keep prying out of greed, gluttony, and wrath. We'll be happy to oblige. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasky Darkfire Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Rossiya said: Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, sloth... Keep dying out of pride, we'll be happy to oblige. Keep crying out of envy, we'll be happy to oblige. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 1 Edited February 17, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True King Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Even if it’s probably lasted long enough & getting in the way of other stuff by now, these things need to run their course naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Storm Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Hodor said: See! Someone gets it! (despite the fact that exponentially is used incorrectly here, blast, there goes my pride again!) Soldiers are needed to play at being Arrgh-lite, like you guys have been for weeks now. And as their number grows linearly your pride grows exponentially as you can see in this example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True King Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Both sides convincing themselves they're winning no matter what by looking at different stats is a skill which should be applauded. Well done to both sides, still hasn't broke Knightfall's record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Kastor said: I think the biggest thing about this is, at least for NPO/BK side is they believe that waiting another 1-2 months will bleed out KETOG side, it won't. Most of these alliances have established communities that aren't going to be gone because they were in a long state of war. So the bigger question is, for individual alliances, what does your individual alliance gain by sticking around another 2 months? @TheNG @Malal @Lionstar @El Chach @Curufinwe @Odin And before anyone says anything, I don't really have a stake in this, I just believe its amusing you guys are letting NPO play you like a fiddle. If the war ends this year I'll be quite disappointed in anti-memesphere. I'm hoping we can make the 2nd VietFAN look like a weekend getaway. Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquentin Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) It's not really our fault if Buorhann wants to try to stall it out for a capitulation. TGH has always relied on other people having less endurance for their style of ambush hits to work and this hasn't even been as long as Knightfall. I'm not really sure why the people his sphere attacked would want to settle for anything less than a surrender in Covenant's case. It's KERTCHOGG's decision to drag it out. If he thinks people that didn't want to fight to begin with like EM deciding to do their thing is a big change, then it's his prerogative. Edited September 12, 2019 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcKnox Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Amazing how when it was IQ stalling out during AC it was stunning and brave. Quote Praise Dio. Every !@#$ing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, ArcKnox said: Amazing how when it was IQ stalling out during AC it was stunning and brave. No one stalled out in AC. It was 30 days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquentin Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ArcKnox said: Amazing how when it was IQ stalling out during AC it was stunning and brave. I'm sure you mean ToT. I mean it doesn't really matter to me personally if you want to drag it out. It's just not something that can be used as a guilt trip on us by some people and then have others also saying we have an agenda to use everyone as a pawn because we have some sort of devious post-war plan when the people who are actually deciding to drag it out are acting confident and convinced of eventual capitulation while also gloating and implying they have aces up their sleeve for post-war revenge plots. I respect that you guys have staying power in wars. Plenty of people crack easily and it's encouraged in the community almost. It's always been to your advantage that others didn't have the same endurance and would crack much faster however. Edited September 12, 2019 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etat Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Rossiya said: Seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, sloth... Keep dying out of pride, we'll be happy to oblige. Art thou suggesting TCW is more virtuous than TKR?? Anyways I die when I delete!! Keep trying big man, God loves a trier 2 Quote Celer Et Audax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Roquentin said: I'm sure you mean ToT. I mean it doesn't really matter to me personally if you want to drag it out. It's just not something that can be used as a guilt trip on us by some people and then have others also saying we have an agenda to use everyone as a pawn because we have some sort of devious post-war plan when the people who are actually deciding to drag it out are acting confident and convinced of eventual capitulation while also gloating and implying they have aces up their sleeve for post-war revenge plots. I respect that you guys have staying power in wars. Plenty of people crack easily and it's encouraged in the community almost. It's always been to your advantage that others didn't have the same endurance and would crack much faster however. I am confused by the whole wanting to drag it out aspects of these arguments. As far as I can tell, both sides don't necessarily require peace, but one side has a precondition for talks occurring. So if there is one side dragging it out, it's yours. This is not at all a damnation of dragging it out, we're all big kids who can make our own decisions, but let's at least acknowledge that if there is one barrier and its erected by your side, we are not the ones dragging it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, Hodor said: I am confused by the whole wanting to drag it out aspects of these arguments. As far as I can tell, both sides don't necessarily require peace, but one side has a precondition for talks occurring. So if there is one side dragging it out, it's yours. This is not at all a damnation of dragging it out, we're all big kids who can make our own decisions, but let's at least acknowledge that if there is one barrier and its erected by your side, we are not the ones dragging it out. Yes admitting defeat is such a barrier. Lol. But if you want to keep going on with the war, fine with us. I’m not really complaining. I can finally stat pad my loot data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 *Insert inevitable reply of someone making a Fallout reference by saying "War...war never changes"* Crap I just did it. Quote "There's nothing you can know that isn't known,Nothing you can see that isn't shown,There's nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be, All you need is love,Love is all you need." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Shadowthrone said: Yes admitting defeat is such a barrier. Lol. But if you want to keep going on with the war, fine with us. I’m not really complaining. I can finally stat pad my loot data. Great thing about zero is that it's smaller than any positive number, so I'm not sure how any part of this contradicts what I was saying? Are we just forum fighting for forum fightings sake now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper_ Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Shadowthrone said: Yes admitting defeat is such a barrier. Lol. But if you want to keep going on with the war, fine with us. I’m not really complaining. I can finally stat pad my loot data. Given egos and pride on both side, it is clear that it would be difficult for either side to admit defeat. Our two sides are not as dissimilar as you'd like to believe. And I think what they are trying to say though is that to put the blame solely on one side is not fair because it requires both the action of y'all requiring surrendering as a precondition to talks and our rejection of that premise to get where we are with stalled talks. It's fine if you're ok with continuing this attrition of wills with us, but I ask that you don't characterize as only our fault. At the end of the day, it takes two to tango ?. P.S. Stalling the next round of talks until next month seems very unproductive, but that's just my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward I Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, Hodor said: Great thing about zero is that it's smaller than any positive number, so I'm not sure how any part of this contradicts what I was saying? Are we just forum fighting for forum fightings sake now? If we're turning this into some kind of contrived equation, the number we'd be looking for is the difference between some default and some proposed alternative. KERCHTOGG seems to think the default in all wars should be white peace, whereas we think the default should reflect the military outcome of the war. Giving you white peace would be a concession here, with some non-zero value associated with it, whereas KERCHTOGG admitting defeat and surrendering would have a value of zero as far as our accounting is concerned. And this isn't just forum fighting for its own sake. If we don't supply the gods with enough non-meme posts, the sun won't rise tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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