Popular Post Prefontaine Posted September 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2019 I've often said war is good for the game, and it is, in moderation. The majority of the game has been at war for several months now and from what I've seen and heard is likely going to stay at war for the foreseeable future. The problem we have is both sides are claiming they're winning, or at least aren't losing. Whether your side has done more total damage, or your side currently is fielding large military scores the actual situation is that it's more likely both sides are losing. I don't mean that as any sort of insult. But in general both sides are at minimal infra level for fighting, and thus aren't growing. There's not much in the way of damage left to be dealt. Why not just white peace? It's highly unlikely either side will concede terms to the other as neither side believes it's losing. Why not begrudgingly shake hands and walk away? You can all begin political moves for the next war and let your members recover. Hell, you don't even have to call it a draw, you can list yourself both as victors. There's not much left to accomplish in this war, so call it gg's. Either way, it's time to .... Or keep on fighting and letting the market be inflated 'cus I've some damages to recoup. 1 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edward I Posted September 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2019 How many more threads will there be from supposedly disinterested third parties who altruistically point out that we can, in fact, stop fighting by mutual agreement? It's almost as if we've thought of that and decided not to. 11 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Edward I said: How many more threads will there be from supposedly disinterested third parties who altruistically point out that we can, in fact, stop fighting by mutual agreement? It's almost as if we've thought of that and decided not to. I'm disinterested? Edit: Your nation link also links to a deleted account. Might want to update that. Edited September 9, 2019 by Prefontaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Marx Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Looking forward to the meaningful discussion that will inevitably arise from the, uh *checks notes* the third thread about this topic in the last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Nah. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Edward I said: How many more threads will there be from supposedly disinterested third parties who altruistically point out that we can, in fact, stop fighting by mutual agreement? It's almost as if we've thought of that and decided not to. Er, what? Didn’t you folks have your representative leave the chat and say “next month”?? 6 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souparmon Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Yeah keep fighting ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Er, what? Didn’t you folks have your representative leave the chat and say “next month”?? I mean, all you have to say is you're willing to surrender and we can start the chats whenever. Our reps did what they did, since it seems you're more interested in brownie points than any surrender negotiation 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buorhann Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shadowthrone said: I mean, all you have to say is you're willing to surrender and we can start the chats whenever. Our reps did what they did, since it seems you're more interested in brownie points than any surrender negotiation I'm most definitely not willing to surrender, heh. https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20191001T12&p0=195&msg=TKR's+Next+chance+at+surrender.+Will+they+take+it%3F&ud=1&font=cursive Cool link though. EDIT: It is also interesting to see both you and @Edward I saying different things, or implying such. Edited September 9, 2019 by Buorhann Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossiya Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Random thoughts on the topic: 1. TKR must burn. 2. Both sides can skip the leadership and start giving surrender terms to individual members (join PoW alliance, where you can't rebuild, but won't be attacked, until war's end). 3. I think most leaders on both sides generally agree on what the outcome is, and may even be able to find mutually-agreeable terms without too much difficulty. From what I've seen on these forums it looks like historical salt production is a major contributor to the continuation of the war. 4. Have we reached the point where KETOGG/Chaos are different spheres in a similar way to how NPO-/BK- are different spheres? 5. Why is the food price still so high? 6. One could argue there is a divergence in interest regarding war length and war frequency between the alliances, a divergence largely based on the whaleness of the specific alliances and/or of the spheres, assuming alliances expect the present spheres to last in the long-term. 7. Will KT and TGH ever merge? 8. Which Church will have fewer members at war's end? 9. Can't we just never peace out and have 1/3 of Orbis become Arrgh? 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymeier Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) Solution for peace 1)Coalition A is to pay Coalition B 500 million plus up to 200 million in reparations. 2)Coalition B is to pay Coalition A 500 million plus up to 200 million in reparations. ; ) Edited September 9, 2019 by Tymeier 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted September 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, Rossiya said: 4. Have we reached the point where KETOGG/Chaos are different spheres in a similar way to how NPO-/BK- are different spheres? If BK and NPO ever fight a war against each other in the near future like how us and Chaos did, I will eat a book. 2 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Buorhann said: It is also interesting to see both you and @Edward I saying different things, or implying such Not really no. Since you're more interested in brownie points, you have no inclination to surrender and wish to continue with the war. We're fine with that. There's no mutual agreement to be had since you don't believe you've lost, and we aren't interested in a white peace. So the same prevails. But nice try And if you aren't surrendering, than peace talks are a moot point, and we can continue harassing each other's low tier! It's great raiding experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgotPants Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, Thalmor said: If BK and NPO ever fight a war against each other in the near future like how us and Chaos did, I will eat a book. I suggest the book War and Peace. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Thalmor said: If BK and NPO ever fight a war against each other in the near future like how us and Chaos did, I will eat a book. Well seeing how I like books, and would like them not to be eaten, I doubt this will happen anytime soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Rebuild ... Attack! Repeat ... Repeat... Repeat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Keep fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamala Khan Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Rossiya said: 4. Have we reached the point where KETOGG/Chaos are different spheres in a similar way to how NPO-/BK- are different spheres? I for one would not be happy if we signed KETOGG. We’re only fighting together because our interests for this war coincide, we’d much rather be beating each other up right now. Maybe we’ll fight together next global, maybe we’ll fight against each other, who knows what the future has in store for us? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critters Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Shadowthrone said: I mean, all you have to say is you're willing to surrender and we can start the chats whenever. Our reps did what they did, since it seems you're more interested in brownie points than any surrender negotiation I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet. 2 Quote The Redneck Caliphate of Forrest's Critters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Pretty sure Coalition A has been open to accepting your surrenders one by one for some time now. Feel free to exit the war. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Peace in our time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avakael Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Personally, I feel like Darren Ferris is currently winning this war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The longer this war goes on, the more NPO wins. Which is why they've been running to topics to keep the war going. Like think about it, if you were really pushing for peace, why would you wait 3 weeks to offer someone a "surrender" again? Really think about it. It makes no sense. Regardless of where you stand (white peace/surrender), there's no reason to REFUSE peace talks for 3 weeks unless you didn't want the war to end. Think about it, @James T. Kirk @Thanos @Curufinwe, you're being taken for fools. I ask you, in your chat, who's the most pushing for the war to CONTINUE? Not for KETOG/Chaos to surrender, but who literally wants to war to CONTINUE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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