Popular Post Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) I honestly thought that they were kidding. I sincerely wasn't willing to believe it, but BK has a literal "Vassal" role for their protectorates on their discord. That's not a protectorate. That's not voluntary. And since it isn't even mutual, it's EXACTLY what I mean when I say "Enslavement" on the forums. The reply to me was that "vassalage" is voluntary; but that's not what the word means. See that? Synonym: Slave. What the hell, BK? You expect your protectorates, your "vassals", your slaves to fight for you, as a condition of your protecting them? Well, who's protecting them from your own failures? Who's protecting them from your dogshit FA? Who's protecting them from the consequences of your plotting and scheming and fake split shenanigans? You make me physically sick. Holy shit. Oh, and as soon as I point this out, you ban me from your discord. You are either unwilling to reply, or are unable to reply. Either way, GG. Edited June 21, 2019 by Sir Scarfalot 5 21 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRebelMan Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: What the hell, BK? You expect your protectorates, your "vassals", your slaves to fight for you, as a condition of your protecting them? Yep. No sweat. I got banned from there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) In light of their argument, I hereby urge all "Vassals" of BK to consider that your "vassalage" is in BK's own words voluntary. Therefore, you need not fight for them, if you do not wish to. You need not be protected by them, if you do not wish to be. You do not need to be in this unbelievably abusive, one-sided, powerless relationship. They're not healthy for you. Leave them. Edited June 21, 2019 by Sir Scarfalot 1 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Counterpoint: Did BK just suddenly become awful yesterday? I would posit that a lot of these alliances had all the tools to know what they were getting into. 3 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mikey Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) I called my protectorates 'mom'. It got weird and now we don't have them anymore. Edited June 21, 2019 by Mikey 1 15 3 Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine d'al Braskia Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Neat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ayayay Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 BK has been calling their procts vassals since 2015. The fact you guys didn't shit on them with me back during Oktoberfest proves your're all hypocrites. Once again the only morally consistent person is me and everyone should stop pretending they're even trying to be. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk 4 16 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcKnox Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 >05/09/2017 (772 Days Old) How would he? Quote Praise Dio. Every !@#$ing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 What's in it for them? This is what I don't understand. You have no independence -- and the "protector" is too incompetent to actually serve its role and needs you to serve as cannon fodder for them to even have a chance. It's the least advantageous relationship possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Malal said: BK has been calling their procts vassals since 2015. The fact you guys didn't shit on them with me back during Oktoberfest proves your're all hypocrites. Once again the only morally consistent person is me and everyone should stop pretending they're even trying to be. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk I personally had no idea about it. But what's really interesting is that I actually did shit on them for something very similar to that during Oktoberfest, in my last account. Therefore I am, by your own logic, morally consistent. Edited June 21, 2019 by Sir Scarfalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ArcKnox said: >05/09/2017 (772 Days Old) How would he? It's his fault for being a noob, just like it's my fault I'm not a GoB member with 46 cities. Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Neat, I'm fine with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: slaves *slayyves Also, like Under said, it's just a flavour thing Yoso and Strum came up with back in 2015 to fit the knight/medieval theme. So, um, PM them about it I guess? Edited June 21, 2019 by Curufinwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) It should be noted that, Elijiahg Mikaelson, a leader of Yakuza, who is a member of Citadel and has an MDP or whatever with BK, was also labelled as a vassal. However that could very easily be missed stewardship of the discord. Also scarf, you should probably focus less on the word itself, and instead on the irony that what was basically flavor text became true. Edited June 21, 2019 by Akuryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Curufinwe said: *slayyves Also, like Under said, it's just a flavour thing Yoso and Strum came up with back in 2015 to fit the knight/medieval theme that we never saw the need to change. So, um, PM them about it I guess? Right, well, when you're not merely calling them something on a discord server but actively treating them as such, that's when it goes from being a fun theme thing to a genuine and stark insult, and characteristic of very real abuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) @Thanos, Question thou.. Are we the favorite slave??? Edited June 21, 2019 by Dusty Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Dusty said: @Thanos, question is are we the favorite slave??? No, shifty is, he does the best at 'relieving' the Emperor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Also scarf, you should probably focus less on the word itself, and instead on the irony that what was basically flavor text became true. Oh, I don't disagree, I'm just saying that it really should go without saying. If it doesn't, then the kool-aid is already drunk, and there's no hope for logical discourse on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Sir Scarfalot said: Right, well, when you're not merely calling them something on a discord server but actively treating them as such, that's when it goes from being a fun theme thing to a genuine and stark insult, and characteristic of very real abuse. Like, we're buying and selling them on a market? And that we had slave catchers roam the countryside and drag them to our shores? And we're forcing them to engage in unpaid agricultural labour for several generations? That's what you mean by actively treating them like slaves? Cuz otherwise you might be acting a little hyperbolic for relationships between AAs in a browser sim. You be you though I guess ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khai Jäger Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 @Elijah Mikaelson I knew it @Curufinwe hands off him at once! Afrika shall not tolerate such slavery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I mean if it's any comparison one of the news servers does incorporate slavery...? Slavery has been great there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Curufinwe said: Like, we're buying and selling them on a market? And that we had slave catchers roam the countryside and drag them to our shores? And we're forcing them to engage in unpaid agricultural labour for several generations? That's what you mean by actively treating them like slaves? Cuz otherwise you might be acting a little hyperbolic for relationships between AAs in a browser sim. You be you though I guess ? Like, you're keeping them under your leash by threat, and forcing them to engage in unproductive warfare at your convenience for years, so yeah, that's what I'd call you treating them like slaves. But sure, break out the old "Scarfy is just a hyperbole machine" defense, as if it somehow disproves the substance of my claims. True though it is, I am the most hyperbole ever 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daniel Storm Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: You make me physically sick. Holy shit. Maybe take a breath my dude, this is getting a little weird. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Sir Scarfalot said: "Scarfy is just a hyperbole machine" defense I mean if the shoe fits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizel16 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Vassel? Really? Are we playing EU4 here? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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