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5/31/2019 - Resource Duplication Bug Fix

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56 minutes ago, Theodosius said:

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=33898 24 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=15173118 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109719 23 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=51519 20 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=123082 23 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109464 21 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=131661 22 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109847 21 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=135129 18 cities

These are the nations that profited the most. Some of these got billions, some others less. Some, maybe I missed.

Majority of Nova nations are lowbies at like 10 cities. A lot of them are from the Federation, probably as clueless as the Nova lowbies. They're all gonna be part of this witch hunt for months because of these people that I linked above. And because Sheepy is not willing to uphold the 2015 precedent and ban directly responsible persons, and reset the rest to 10 cities at the very least.

 

Speaking as a non-gov vanilla member in the upper tier one thing this doesn't take into account is taxes as I believe most of the upper tier and some mid tier was taxed at 100% voluntarily for about a month so this was not extra cash/resources on top of revenue but rather taxes were being cycled back into growth programs. We only came out of 100% mode a week or so before the Pantheon event. That being said I'm not gov so I don't know how much was in the bank at any given time so I don't have a baseline to work with to evaluate further.

However speaking for myself I already had plenty of resources and a decent amount of cash when I joined Nova as I was the largest nation at the time and was ready contribute to help the alliance grow as they just came out of a long war. Since no one joins a micro for growth programs but for the community the idea that some are making this out to be a grand conspiracy is a bit over the top as these circumstances are equally shocking to the members who are in the middle of coordinating a war on top of the drama train rolling in.

 

Why don't we just wait for Alex to finish a thorough investigation.

 

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1 hour ago, Elijah Mikaelson said:

how much did the Ts trader pay ?, point is if you paid a fair price then the tS trader I'm sure would have gotten them a lot cheaper as traders only work for profit, I believe more than just nova benefited, there are a lot in Nova who might not have known but all are being treated as they did the act themselves, some from what I have heard are being told to go kill themselves, that's a little much don't you think.

The point I am trying to make and from the seems of it very poorly sorry about that, the point is you can not just blame the whole alliance for the action of a few, yeah those who knew and such ban them don't care, but those who did not know just feels wrong to me that people are treating them like shit.

IF nova gov knowingly cheated they should not be rolled back, they should be reset to zero or banned.

 

ok you put it a lot better than me, this has been my point from the start, loads of people who have no clue will be hunted for picking the wrong alliance nothing more

What I'm calling for is a full investigation. Alex claims he only has 45 days bank logs, but we should be able to get more than that if he runs a rollback on a third server.

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Speaking as a non-gov vanilla member in the upper tier one thing this doesn't take into account is taxes as I believe most of the upper tier and some mid tier was taxed at 100% voluntarily for about a month so this was not extra cash/resources on top of revenue but rather taxes were being cycled back into growth programs. We only came out of 100% mode a week or so before the Pantheon event. That being said I'm not gov so I don't know how much was in the bank at any given time so I don't have a baseline to work with to evaluate further.

However speaking for myself I already had plenty of resources and a decent amount of cash when I joined Nova as I was the largest nation at the time and was ready contribute to help the alliance grow as they just came out of a long war. Since no one joins a micro for growth programs but for the community the idea that some are making this out to be a grand conspiracy is a bit over the top as these circumstances are equally shocking to the members who are in the middle of coordinating a war on top of the drama train rolling in.

 

Why don't we just wait for Alex to finish a thorough investigation.

 

We have no confirmation that Alex is running a thorough investigation. We have no confirmation that he's even identified the bug as of yet.

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4 hours ago, Theodosius said:

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=33898 24 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=15173118 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109719 23 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=51519 20 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=123082 23 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109464 21 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=131661 22 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109847 21 cities
https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=135129 18 cities

These are the nations that profited the most. Some of these got billions, some others less. Some, maybe I missed.

Majority of Nova nations are lowbies at like 10 cities. A lot of them are from the Federation, probably as clueless as the Nova lowbies. They're all gonna be part of this witch hunt for months because of these people that I linked above. And because Sheepy is not willing to uphold the 2015 precedent and ban directly responsible persons, and reset the rest to 10 cities at the very least.

Yo, not sure how y'all are gonna react to this but I am this guy, https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=109464  and I got granted one city by nova riata, I don't believe it is fair to say I 'profited the most' but feel free to take that city plus one more away if you want, I didn't have any reduced because nova granted me the money to buy it before the resource injection. 

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10 hours ago, katashimon13 said:

cant forget land pplz xP

rawr

This actually. Alex, you should go through the remaining cities of anyone you punished and has not deleted, and take them do to ~1500 land. Pooball has 3k land in all his cities, probably gotten with the illegal resources.

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14 hours ago, Dio Brando said:

What? Forget about the resources. "Anything too severe"? They added billions worth of resources to the market. Everyone knows they cheated. This comes off as a bullshit defense of their actions. KETOG/Chaos war did jackshit compared to the resources he spawned in. Delete their leadership's cities at the very least.

What do you mean the war did jack shit? They spawned over 201b in resources and we are well on our way to burning over 200b in this war alone. Not to mention that prices for some resources, ie food are incredibly high. 

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@Alex - thank you very much. I will admit that I did not have much hope for further punishment, but you've surprised me time and again in the past few days. I - and I am sure other players - am genuinely grateful for the work you're putting in.

As I told other people, Blink (formerly TKR gov, then Arrgh!, then back to TKR, now banned) has been on the radar for some time now:

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These 'leaks' - for lack of a better word - being plugged are an excellent step forward. o7 Sheepy.

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5 hours ago, Akuryo said:

Meanwhile everyone who actually read the thread once again knows inst is an idiot because Nova's offshore is held in perma vm by Alex and the bank in NR itself was stolen.

 

https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/ignore/

Save yourself the trouble of dealing with the grossly incompetent. 

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15 minutes ago, Princess Bubblegum said:

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Season 2

I see you still lurking.  Welcome back?

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Thanks for your work Alex. This is definetly great news. 

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Thank you for the good news.

The question remains if the the stuff mentioned below got deleted as well or was it dumped into the Arrrgh! bank before the ban?


You successfully gathered intelligence about pooball. Your spies discovered that pooball has 60 spies, $8,832,870,690.00, 99,999.51 coal, 154,712.25 oil, 107,877.51 uranium, 99,999.10 lead, 100,000.41 iron, 383,519.57 bauxite, 28,462.05 gasoline, 100,000.18 munitions, 100,000.15 steel, 61,141.46 aluminum, and 3,853,720.57 Food.

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19 minutes ago, Joe Baker said:

Thank you for the good news.

The question remains if the the stuff mentioned below got deleted as well or was it dumped into the Arrrgh! bank before the ban?


You successfully gathered intelligence about pooball. Your spies discovered that pooball has 60 spies, $8,832,870,690.00, 99,999.51 coal, 154,712.25 oil, 107,877.51 uranium, 99,999.10 lead, 100,000.41 iron, 383,519.57 bauxite, 28,462.05 gasoline, 100,000.18 munitions, 100,000.15 steel, 61,141.46 aluminum, and 3,853,720.57 Food.

That was from an April 5th spy

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Thank you Alex this is real justice. Sheepy is back in town boys and girls!

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I think the measures taken will go far in quelling the NR witch hunt, as well as help build/rebuild the burning trust between Alex and the pnw community. This is no means closure, but at least Justice has been Served.

Thanks @Alex
I appreciate the work you've done regarding this matter.

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Wow, pooball is finally banned. I am really glad that the game is now liberated from such a toxic and petty person, not only did he cheat, he was also the greatest thorn of my alliance. Heck, he even had greater plans to build a monopoly in banking and financial services. I am absolutely relieved that everyone in this game will not be subjected to such future terror that pooball wanted to bring about.

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I would also like the resources that Nova gov member took when he ran off to Not A Scam Credit Union LLC . There is no way of knowing if those are legit resources or just part of the spawn. So even if Nova Riata as an entity is not holding on to it. An ex Nova Riata gov member did run away with it and is going to benefit of it even after knowing of this matter.

If you know of a cheat and still decide to take a cut of it, that makes you an accesory and part of the cheat itself. Maybe not something as harsh as banning the guy because besides having the rss on him, he didn't get any benefit as far as I know. But definately also delete those.

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