Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just now, Machiavelli said: There's a lot of people upset about the lack of punishment in here. Why don't you all band together and roll them? I mean there's easily enough of you to do huge damage, and you get to war; it's win-win That's exactly what they'll do. Not sure why you felt a need to say this. Anyone whose been around long enough or read the wiki knows how this ends. Cheating like this is generally viewed like unforgivable family dishonor by the community. Alex can only go so far with the evidence he's given, and so it always falls to the 'family' to finish it themselves. Don't know when it'll start but i'd expect it's already being planned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alex said: I do believe it's a really hard exploit to pull off. I spent a lot of time this morning trying to do it consistently myself and was unsuccessful. Alex is cheating, I'm reporting you for creating multis and exploiting bugs. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Disregard this post. Edited June 1, 2019 by Tarroc My bad 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Divinum Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 Deleting cities is a good idea - even if you had no clue what went on, think in analogies. If someone in real life gives you a stolen item, and you don't know it's illicitly obtained, you might not go to jail, but you still have to return it. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senatorius Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Vack said: There's no straightforward or clean way to resolve this, so I understand Alex's hesitation to do anything more punitive. However, fact remains that a bunch of people have benefited from the exploit. This cheat, either by design or by accident, may well have emboldened NR to hit Panth, and it's benefiting them against KETOG. Imo something more has to be done, deleting some NR cities or some of their bank equivalent to what they received from the cheat. Yeah what about the Panth members who massively lost out due to this bug?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leopold von Habsburg Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Machiavelli said: There's a lot of people upset about the lack of punishment in here. Why don't you all band together and roll them? I mean there's easily enough of you to do huge damage, and you get to war; it's win-win We don't have the capacity to delete cities. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 ZI pact Nova? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Theodosius Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) So, conclusion here is some resources get deleted but cities worth dozens of billions of dollars that were gained directly by this exploit and people directly tied to the exploit walk like nothing happened lmfao gg Edited June 1, 2019 by Theodosius 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alex said: I do believe it's a really hard exploit to pull off. I spent a lot of time this morning trying to do it consistently myself and was unsuccessful. I think it's pretty unlikely that anyone else was knowingly exploiting this bug. The spikes in the resource quantity tracking graphs basically match the generation of resources by the main culprit here perfectly. I don't see any suggestion that anyone else was abusing a bug like this, and going forward it will be very clear if someone finds a way to do it in the future. Thanks for looking into it. I think a lot of us in the community would be ok if the benefited city growth (A lot of them had multiple cities built within just a few days) was removed. While we're not asking those players to be banned, it'd go a ways to secure our confidence in the handling of players who exploit the mechanics of the game. 14 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Julius Caesar Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, James II said: I'm sorry I thought you were Nova. Shame on me. Oh. No, hard feelings. Carry on and have a good day. BK STRONK. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew The Great Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, csans said: I like this idea Coalition against Nova when? Blame Dan Schneider~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Ah hell. I compared them to Enron and now their leaders face more or less no punishment. Pooball after buying up an extremely large portion of the market claiming he is using 100/100% more efficiently than dozens of other alliances who also do that: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Zygon said: Good god, thanks for your work Alex. He did nothing but pull the trigger after extensive investigations and multiple reports from players. 1 Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorcock Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Stop demanding the resources get deleted or anything too severe, you lack to forget NR had a large reach and sold everywhere, therefore everybody would lose, this would also inflate the prices of everything, since less resources, not to mention with the update Alex has added to inflate the market world-wide we'd have an all time high in price. There's also the fact that there'd be a lack of resources from the burning happening between KTOG and CHAOS. 1 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosme12 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Ok guys, next time you find a bug, use a suicide account to exploit it and spend all the cash in your real nations, those wont get banned... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmore Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 So can we just all agree to use this thread to coordinate our collective rolling of Nova for this bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just now, Gatorcock said: Stop demanding the resources get deleted or anything too severe, you lack to forget NR had a large reach and sold everywhere, therefore everybody would lose, this would also inflate the prices of everything, since less resources, not to mention with the update Alex has added to inflate the market world-wide we'd have an all time high in price. There's also the fact that there'd be a lack of resources from the burning happening between KTOG and CHAOS. The last statement I don't think is true. There was already a glut of resources in the game. Now there's a bigger one that alliances will have to burn through. Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gatorcock said: Stop demanding the resources get deleted or anything too severe, you lack to forget NR had a large reach and sold everywhere, therefore everybody would lose, this would also inflate the prices of everything, since less resources, not to mention with the update Alex has added to inflate the market world-wide we'd have an all time high in price. There's also the fact that there'd be a lack of resources from the burning happening between KTOG and CHAOS. What? Forget about the resources. "Anything too severe"? They added billions worth of resources to the market. Everyone knows they cheated. This comes off as a bullshit defense of their actions. KETOG/Chaos war did jackshit compared to the resources he spawned in. Delete their leadership's cities at the very least. Edited June 1, 2019 by Dio Brando 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Filmore Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 @Alex Does this message from a Nova member help change your mind about them 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 Brb gonna create a sock account, find an exploit to generate hundreds of billions in resources, use those resources to benefit my alliance, and then delete the sock account. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Alex said: I don't disagree with you, but I don't really have any proof that anyone was knowingly exploiting a bug except for the guy who actually did exploit the bug, who has since deleted all of his nations (except the Dog1 account linked above.) I am trying to be fair to the average members of Nova Riata who very likely did benefit from this exploit but did so unknowingly. As I stated above, I do believe pooball and The North 14 were most intimately involved, but I still do not feel comfortable punishing them without further evidence they were intentionally abusing the bug for their own benefit. So next time someone figures out an exploit, we should just refrain from asking for any details, slap the money in a bank AA and build everyone in gov up to 27 cities in a couple of months, secure in the knowledge that there won't be any consequences for accepting illegally generated funds? It's nice that you deleted the bank AA and all, but how about you correct the unfair advantage Nova members got as a result of the glitch too? Because now all you're doing is removing the resources they didn't manage to launder through the market before they got caught, rather than all the cities they purchased as a result of their proceeds. That's unfair to everyone who doesn't actively game the system, knowingly or not, and rewards the people who engaged in bad behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper_ Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buorhann said: The last statement I don't think is true. There was already a glut of resources in the game. Now there's a bigger one that alliances will have to burn through. MORE WAR!!! Bring it on KETOG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick McScott Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 After chatting with some of the Nova gov it has become clear that the people receiving money didn't know where it came from, however I find it impossible for government especially econ gov to not notice where this money was coming from. Especially when they gave billions of dollars away. I think that at least some of the gov was guilty, especially poo bear and north 14 should be looked into more, as for the people who got money from this, I don't think it is unreasonable to take away everything they gained from it. Otherwise it is unfair for an alliance to gain billions in cities and stuff. Clearly this exploit was abused by at least 1 person, but I can't help but find it hard to believe that this person would deposit this money into the bank without being told to do so. Does that seem strange to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) @Filmore The whole alliance should be punished if they keep that up, their practically rubbing it in others faces. If Nova don't face some form of punishment akin to Terradoxia then who's to say that they won't do this again if they find some other bug to exploit. Edited June 1, 2019 by Sphinx typo (Again...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Delete cities to 10 for everyone that has applied or been on Nova aa since the 28th to present. 1 4 3 "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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