Thalmor Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, Otto Von Bismarck II said: Great job ganging up on a 6 nation alliance that just came out of VM.... Is coming out of VM some kind of virtue that means you shouldn't be hit? Sorry, I don't think I follow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Utter Nutter Posted April 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2019 This is weak Ockey tsk tsk. You could have given them a month to get ready at least. Fighting them now is like kicking a wounded animal. I don't approve -_- 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senator Aurelius Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 Quote GREG HOBBS HONDA, DEALER FOR THE PEOPLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James II Posted April 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Thalmor said: Is coming out of VM some kind of virtue that means you shouldn't be hit? Sorry, I don't think I follow. SA/Alpha left after their war with TEst. They didn't rebuild or anything. They're coming back in the same state, as you cannot rebuild/buy military in VM. It's akin to hitting an alliance right after they get out of getting hit down. It's like the guy choking a kitten and saying he fought off a mountain lion. Basically, Oblivion is a joke. 9 Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utter Nutter Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, James II said: SA/Alpha left after their war with TEst. They didn't rebuild or anything. They're coming back in the same state, as you cannot rebuild/buy military in VM. It's akin to hitting an alliance right after they get out of getting hit down. It's like the guy choking a kitten and saying he fought off a mountain lion. Basically, Oblivion is a joke. Bud. You can't expect them to understand a perfectly logical argument anymore than you can train a dog to count to 10. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Partisan Posted April 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, HopeSolo said: isn't the whole point, the fact that it's lame to just hit people you have no beef with? how is that good for a game? random hits vs. political manuveering. sheesh, at least tS made it fun, politically and we have wall-of-text-offs. I've got no personal stake in this argument, but this line stood out to me as particularly ironic given the war that ended only yesterday. Here are the links if you'd like to catch yourself up on them -- declaration of war by Soup on WTFark here, and peace thread here. Soup Kitchen made it clear from the beginning that there was no political motive to hit. They just wanted to have some fun. Quote Soup Kitchen, being the community-focused organization it is, has initiated a series of friendly attacks against members of Fark and World Task Force. The decision to help these two wonderful alliances came from a place of love - we expect this to be a quick, action-packed, fun war for everyone involved! I am sure that this will be a wonderful team-building, engaging experience for all three of our communities! Both sides remained classy, and the resulting forum posts make it evident that the participants of this "lame" war enjoyed the experience. From the Soup side: On 4/26/2019 at 8:41 PM, Charlie Traveler said: Fark, WTF - you guys are Great! Thanks for the fun fight and the new friendships. On 4/26/2019 at 8:44 PM, Spectral said: Good fight you guys. Much respect o7 On 4/26/2019 at 9:20 PM, Kitschie said: WTF/Fark put up a good fight and managed to pull off the most good-spirited, fun war I have ever participated in in the 2 years I’ve been around. Cheers to all involved and congratulations on showing Orbis how dynamic ™ this game should be! *hat tip* From the WTFark side: On 4/26/2019 at 9:18 PM, kosmokenny said: Ive got a 3 day weekend, so Im drinking vodak and chasing it with beer. Cheers, Soup Kitchen! 10 hours ago, souparmon said: Most enjoyable war I have been in so far. Had a great time and made some new friends. Cheers Soup Kitchen!! I'll not argue against the fact that wars preceded by heavy political maneuvering are entertaining, but hopefully you see why I object to your point that wars born of anything else cannot be just as respectable. Admittedly, there is more in context than merely the lack of a pre-existing rivalry (i.e. that the targets in question all recently left VM), and while I will not be touching that part of this debate I figured it was worth clearing up a misconception. 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Seb said: Bud. You can't expect them to understand a perfectly logical argument anymore than you can train a dog to count to 10. It's not their fault they only see 8 toes and not the creepy on on their elbow. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin076 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, James II said: SA/Alpha left after their war with TEst. They didn't rebuild or anything. They're coming back in the same state, as you cannot rebuild/buy military in VM. It's akin to hitting an alliance right after they get out of getting hit down. It's like the guy choking a kitten and saying he fought off a mountain lion. Basically, Oblivion is a joke. First off, by the looks of it, the people were fully militarized so your point is invalid from the start. Also if statement were true it still wouldn’t mean anything as, don’t rage quit into VM and that wouldn’t happen. 1 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Justin076 said: First off, by the looks of it, the people were fully militarized so your point is invalid from the start. Also if statement were true it still wouldn’t mean anything as, don’t rage quit into VM and that wouldn’t happen. I wouldn't expect you to understand considering you don't fight. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin076 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, James II said: I wouldn't expect you to understand considering you don't fight. I would have to live in an alternate reality to understand considering they were all clearly rebuilt and militarized. Your statement is completely false. 2 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buorhann Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HopeSolo said: >we didn't bail to avoid war. we were gearing for another wave when we decided to focus our attention on other games, not this one - which wasn't much fun. much like a lot of people we knew have left from the old days. we had a peace offer on the table from TEst anyway. but we discussed it and were like "frick it, why bother". so we left. buorhann, you've always seemed like a reasonable dude, but tell me how it's better to just randomly hit people vs. the political maneuvering and coalition building of great wars? Just wanted to bold the contradictory statements here. As for the last statement there, political maneuvering wars ended years ago after the disbanding of Syndisphere 1.0. When new leadership took place and new blocs consolidated, there was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG lull of inactivity going on (Except from Roz Wei, who did minor skirmishes here and there during that). But let's tackle a couple of things here. >Nuke Bloc doesn't exist Sure, on paper it doesn't, but the same people leading different named alliances and remaining tied together still exists. >Syndicate made things interesting with political maneuvering wars 75% of those wars were created from Mensa randomly burning pixels of some poor unfortunate alliance (Vanguard mostly) and their allies (Syndicate being the major one here) backing it up. I think maybe 2 wars were really "political" (If I'm getting your implication right - the ones where Syndicate had a bone to pick with on UPN and Alpha iirc). >Alpha is a punching bag I've only been in military confrontation with you folks twice iirc. Had you said "Vanguard" was a punching bag? Sure. Polaris a punching bag? Sure. Alpha though? I couldn't give a damn about you guys. In fact, I'm pretty sure I named Alpha off as being the only real threat in Nuke Bloc back then and even commended you guys on the blitz you had on Mensa in one of those wars. Wrapping it back around to the initial statement of this reply - "political maneuvering conflicts" ended years ago, however, they could be making a comeback once these other alliances hurry the hell up with their "moves" they wanted to make since IQ disbanded. Oblivion doesn't care for posting DoWs though, they just want to burn pixels. Alpha has enough firepower to hit back and wipe them out. Most of you were fully built up in military. Consider it a "Welcome back" hit from them, I guess. Go !@#$ at Ockey in DMs on Discord. Edited April 28, 2019 by Buorhann 3 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, James II said: I wouldn't expect you to understand considering you don't fight. Hey @Justin076, you want to fight @James II? 5 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnZaq Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Kevanovia said: Get some more for the rest of us, this one seems like a long one 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Just wanted to bold the contradictory statements here. As for the last statement there, political maneuvering wars ended years ago after the disbanding of Syndisphere 1.0. When new leadership took place and new blocs consolidated, there was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG lull of inactivity going on (Except from Roz Wei, who did minor skirmishes here and there during that). But let's tackle a couple of things here. >Nuke Bloc doesn't exist Sure, on paper it doesn't, but the same people leading different named alliances and remaining tied together still exists. >Syndicate made things interesting with political maneuvering wars 75% of those wars were created from Mensa randomly burning pixels of some poor unfortunate alliance (Vanguard mostly) and their allies (Syndicate being the major one here) backing it up. I think maybe 2 wars were really "political" (If I'm getting your implication right - the ones where Syndicate had a bone to pick with on UPN and Alpha iirc). >Alpha is a punching bag I've only been in military confrontation with you folks twice iirc. Had you said "Vanguard" was a punching bag? Sure. Polaris a punching bag? Sure. Alpha though? I couldn't give a damn about you guys. In fact, I'm pretty sure I named Alpha off as being the only real threat in Nuke Bloc back then and even commended you guys on the blitz you had on Mensa in one of those wars. Wrapping it back around to the initial statement of this reply - "political maneuvering conflicts" ended years ago, however, they could be making a comeback once these other alliances hurry the hell up with their "moves" they wanted to make since IQ disbanded. Oblivion doesn't care for posting DoWs though, they just want to burn pixels. Alpha has enough firepower to hit back and wipe them out. Most of you were fully built up in military. Consider it a "Welcome back" hit from them, I guess. Go !@#$ at Ockey in DMs on Discord. Alpha doesn't do secret or paperless treaties. We have no ties with anyone in Nuke Bloc. Nuke bloc doesn't exist, and Alpha isn't a nuclear-focused alliance at the present time. I specifically wanted to break up Nuke Bloc and it was successfully broken up so people could have a new punching bag (not from you, this is a general statement). There is nothing I can say to you, when I have all the facts and you are just speculating, no offense. I do not wish and will never revive Nuke Bloc even if I could and I think nukes should just be removed from the game. The war system in this game isn't great. Spy blitz, Air blitz with numbers then win. I personally find that wars with no stakes and no politics are boring. Combine these two. You can have an opinion that random wars are fun, that's your choice and it's cool. Oblivion clearly doesn't think they have the firepower as they are accepting people back mid-war. And we all know the game mechanics greatly favor the attacker, so if they don't win, they are fricking awful. Plus SA left mid-war so they had no spies, and with new mechanics spies are just as important as planes. None were built up in Alpha accept a few who hadn't finished their rebuild, just having left VM with no spies. And are we "dead weight' or is it a "fair fight"? You folks need to make up your mind. Edited April 28, 2019 by Placentica 1 1 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 People hating on Oblivion, they really don't care what you think. 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletethisaccount Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 TLDR: Oblivion man bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshima Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Take your licking and stop crying, you act like you can’t rebuild. 1 1 Quote “I'm cheap and enjoy butchering” - Manthrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 permission denied Quote Throw me to the wolves and I’ll return leading the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keegoz Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Epi said: I'm too lazy to check the wars, but i heard Alpha started winning? I mean I doubt they can lose much on stats, the SA guys have around 1k infra. So even lobbing nukes will likely net them a win. 3 3 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Roll Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Keegoz said: I mean I doubt they can lose much on stats, the SA guys have around 1k infra. So even lobbing nukes will likely net them a win. We have not launched any nukes and do not plan on launching any win or lose as this time it's not a dogpile. Credit to Oblivion for keeping it to 11....err now 12 nations. We are not the same alliance you think you knew *but really didn't* but that's another story for another time. I hope I don't trigger you again Keegoz. I used to think you were an alright chap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoje Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Placentica said: Alpha doesn't do secret or paperless treaties. We have no ties with anyone in Nuke Bloc. Nuke bloc doesn't exist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frawley Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 https://npowned.net/pw-war-statistics/conflict/7 War Stats, let me know via pm if anything changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Royalist Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Hey. Oblivion will likely lose stats wise as they have a lot more infra, compared to the SA guys who didn’t rebuild their infra after TEst. Quote aka Filip, The Royalist or Tremor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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