Popular Post Raphael Posted April 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2019 So since Sheepy updated us with graphs and data, we can do some interesting numbers crunching to see what our world is looking like. Resources and "Value" Obviously, if all the resources in the game got dumped at once the price would deflate. But we can roughly visualize the value of all resources in the game with the new graphs using the market index! Food - At a little under 900m food in circulation, according to the graph, we are looking at roughly $55B worth of food! Bayer acquired Monsanto for roughly $66B in 2016 to give an idea of things. Aluminum - 83 million units worth of aluminum rounds us out to around $120B worth of the resource! Alcoa (A large aluminum company in the US) reported revenue at just $13.4B in 2018. Gasoline - 118 million gallons (liters?) of gas around, we're looking at roughly $194B worth of gas! IRL OPEC earned about $730B selling oil in 2014, just to give a rl comparison. Munitions - 121 million bullets valuing at $121B. ATK, a bullet manufacturer that admittedly makes other things as well, reported $4.78B for fiscal year 2014. Steel - With roughly 116m tonnes of steel, we're looking at a valuation of $212B! American Steel, Carnegie's famous company, was the first billion dollar company. Accounting for inflation we're looking at a valuation of roughly $42B! Total value of manufactured resources in the game: $702B which is a significant amount more than the amount of cash in the game, according to sheepy's graph. 3 1 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impreza Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 cool beans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Cannot Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 thank you robert, very cool. thats alotta rss.... (looks at war clock) *begins caressing it* "soon baby, soon." Quote Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeNova Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Wow. We have more resources in the market than we could ever buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 15 hours ago, AwesomeNova said: Wow. We have more resources in the market than we could ever buy. Yeah but when will prices drop so low that war will become inevitable? Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sisyphus said: Yeah but when will prices drop so low that war will become inevitable? It is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, Smith said: It is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening Could you elaborate on this picture of the treaty web? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, Smith said: It is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening Yeah but when will prices be so low peace is impossible? Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sisyphus said: Yeah but when will prices be so low peace is impossible? That's a fair question but it is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Smith said: That's a fair question but it is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening Yeah but when will underinflated resource prices eventually lead to more common wars? I really feel like I'm on the cusp of some game-changing answers, here. 1 Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 That TGH/KT tie is just too game breaking. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Buorhann said: That TGH/KT tie is just too game breaking. Hopefully your successor will fix that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Smith said: Hopefully your successor will fix that Saxplayer already has plans to disband our bloc then have KT sign BK and us sign NPO or Syndicate, Empy will sign Camelot, and Oblivion will sign UPN. That way we remain together, but by proxies through the treaty web. Guardian and GOB will shake their old man canes at the new moves. Edited April 24, 2019 by Buorhann 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buorhann said: That TGH/KT tie is just too game breaking. I'm just upset that Oblivion made it into the top 50 and ruined that Sydney opera house thing y'all had going for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, Buorhann said: Saxplayer already has plans to disband our bloc then have KT sign BK and us sign NPO or Syndicate. That way we remain together, but by proxies through the treaty web. Just as many lines, same result. Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Buorhann said: Saxplayer already has plans to disband our bloc then have KT sign BK and us sign NPO or Syndicate, Empy will sign Camelot, and Oblivion will sign UPN. That way we remain together, but by proxies through the treaty web. Guardian and GOB will shake their old man canes at the new moves. Ah a simple yet brilliant strategy. Even better nobody will notice you are doing it 5 minutes ago, Sisyphus said: Just as many lines, same result. My understanding is the lines don't count if they are ODPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Smith said: My understanding is the lines don't count if they are ODPs The lines don't count but you can still count the lines. ? 1 Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Smith said: It is not resource prices that will prevent substantial conflict from happening Well, you do have experience with clogging the treaty web from your alliances run at the top so it should be easy for you to spot. That being said kudos on being an independent sphere now a-days, just be careful about throwing too much shade about that sort of thing. If BK cut Solar, Polaris burns to the ground (3 ties to cut on either side), and Afrika Korps cut Electric Space, that would break up the cluster quite a bit. Hopefully leaders of these alliances, and alliances connected to them make moves that will result in a full break versus treaty line dancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Prefontaine said: If BK cut Solar, Polaris burns to the ground (3 ties to cut on either side), and Afrika Korps cut Electric Space, that would break up the cluster quite a bit. Hopefully leaders of these alliances, and alliances connected to them make moves that will result in a full break versus treaty line dancing. Doubt that would happen. These smaller alliances are trying to clutch hard at the coattails of the majors. Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Good luck manipulating people into doing things against their own self interest. Not that that has never happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True King Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I think what people really want is to see more alliances attacking others & have more targets to hit, treaties are just what some see as the barrier to hitting who they want. Maybe alliances should agree to one day every month everyone can declare on whoever they want. The monthly purge to satisfy the bloodlust of those who love war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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