Guest Epi Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 @Emperor Jonas Your nation is 100 days old, compared to mine at exactly 800 days. Your arguments about experience are unfounded and war is for entertainment value. It's necessary for the politics. By itself it offers very little. It's an extension of the economic tools we have to beat our competitors. That's how you justify it to the Econ guy :P So yes, we need war. Without it the same alliances would rule forever and this would be neither politics nor war. It wouldn't even be competition. And that would make for a very poor game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 I think the war feature should be disabled. If you read my other thread, you know why it is awful for the game and destroys growth. Downvotes need to be turned off because people are downvoting my ideas and thoughts, and it is very disrespectful. Developers, please listen to the masses. 1 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Mad Titan Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Emperor Jonas said: Developers, please listen to the masses. The masses are telling you they want war lol 4 1 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Epi said: @Emperor Jonas Your nation is 100 days old, compared to mine at exactly 800 days. Your arguments about experience are unfounded and war is for entertainment value. It's necessary for the politics. By itself it offers very little. It's an extension of the economic tools we have to beat our competitors. That's how you justify it to the Econ guy So yes, we need war. Without it the same alliances would rule forever and this would be neither politics nor war. It wouldn't even be competition. And that would make for a very poor game No, we don't. I've already explained why and I won't repeat myself. You are killing people when you war and detract from the overall experience. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin076 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 1 Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, The Mad Titan said: The masses are telling you they want war lol Says who? 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmore Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Emperor Jonas said: I think the war feature should be disabled. If you read my other thread, you know why it is awful for the game and destroys growth. So you want to pull a Thanos and get rid of half the game. Got it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Storm Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 This is a pretty good troll ngl, getting crazy responses as the embodiment of the pixel hugging strawman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Filmore said: So you want to pull a Thanos and get rid of half the game. Got it. I think everyone would benefit from the increased cash and commerce and trade. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kamea Arano Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 So. You got blasted with critical reception so you make another topic about this. I don't know if that is dedication or just too dumb to quit. 8 Terms of Service | Wiki | Contact Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustaf V Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Emperor Jonas said: I think the war feature should be disabled. If you read my other thread, you know why it is awful for the game and destroys growth. Downvotes need to be turned off because people are downvoting my ideas and thoughts, and it is very disrespectful. Developers, please listen to the masses. Dude stop trolling please. You are making me lose brain cells. 1 By the Grace of God, the King of the Swedes, the Goths/Geats and the Wends, Grand Prince of Finland, Duke of Scania, Estonia, Livonia, Karelia, Bremen, Verden, Stettin, Pomerania, Kashubia and Wendia, Prince of Rügen, Lord of Ingria and Wismar, Count Palatine of the Rhine, Duke of Bavaria, Jülich, and Cleves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Hawk Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'd say this is lazy bait, but I just don't know anymore. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Dad said: This is a pretty good troll ngl, getting crazy responses as the embodiment of the pixel hugging strawman. I'm dead serious right now. You just don't understand how this works. Just now, Aisling Duval said: So. You got blasted with critical reception so you make another topic about this. I don't know if that is dedication or just too dumb to quit. Smarter then you idiot 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustaf V Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Emperor Jonas said: No, we don't. I've already explained why and I won't repeat myself. You are killing people when you war and detract from the overall experience. Who the hell are you killing? Fake people? Boohoo. Go play NationStates. For real. By the Grace of God, the King of the Swedes, the Goths/Geats and the Wends, Grand Prince of Finland, Duke of Scania, Estonia, Livonia, Karelia, Bremen, Verden, Stettin, Pomerania, Kashubia and Wendia, Prince of Rügen, Lord of Ingria and Wismar, Count Palatine of the Rhine, Duke of Bavaria, Jülich, and Cleves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmore Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Emperor Jonas said: I'm dead serious right now. You just don't understand how this works. I dont think you understand how this game works....... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 War is literally the only fun and interesting part of this game. Building your cities and infra is only done so you can fight wars better. Growing your pixels is fun for 3-4 months but if you do it for a long time the game gets boring quick because it is a slow game and there isn't much to do in the first place outside of war. 14 minutes ago, Emperor Jonas said: stop downvoting me just because you want to kill millions of people. There is nothing wrong with killing millions of people. If it were up to me I would kill billions of people. I receive orgasmic pleasure from watching bodies fall into mass graves. There are 11,270,709,687 people on Orbis and I want each one to perish horrifically. Then I would off myself. God bless. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Thalmor said: War is literally the only fun and interesting part of this game. Building your cities and infra is only done so you can fight wars better. Growing your pixels is fun for 3-4 months but if you do it for a long time the game gets boring quick because it is a slow game and there isn't much to do in the first place outside of war. There is nothing wrong with killing millions of people. If it were up to me I would kill billions of people. I receive orgasmic pleasure from watching bodies fall into mass graves. There are 11,270,709,687 people on Orbis and I want each one to perish horrifically. Then I would off myself. God bless. You disgust me. 3 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Polar Bear ArcticExplorer Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 The game is called Politics and War for a reason. There's war! Want to know why people are downvoting you? Because they don't agree with you! You should be happy that people are even reading your suggestions! 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcrum Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Emperor Jonas said: I think everyone would benefit from the increased cash and commerce and trade. Then what would you even do in the game? What ultimatums can alliances give each other? 1 2016/04/26 – Unreleased Bad Company advert, circa 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamea Arano Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Emperor Jonas said: You disgust me. I don't know... Thalmor could be the next Sun Tzu. He inspires me already. 2 1 1 Terms of Service | Wiki | Contact Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack g Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 War is the balance. If there was no war, this would be sims. The name of this game is politics and war.... Cause and effect. Think of a waxed floor... If noone walks on it, it stays clean... But unused... Pointless. Yes you can look at it... But you could put something other than floor there in that case. So you wax a floor to protect it, so it can handle what comes its way... Eventually it needs some love... Eventually it needs more than just some love... So u strip it... Clean it.... Out with all the old grimey filth... Then once its clean... You wax it again... Rinse... Repeat.... Its beautiful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 You all are motherfricker !@#$es who can't seem to understand basic concepts. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Jonas Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Hello all. I've been playing for quite a while now, and have been in two alliances, Arrgh and TFP. While I was in arrgh, i raided. A lot. And while I got a little bit of cash, I lost a lot of soldiers and infrastructure. As well as gas, munitions, steel, and aluminum. It was so expensive and tedious that I left and joined a more peaceful alliance, Fighting Pacifists. Since I joined TFP, I have not raided once and have built up lots of infra. I've been chatting with my gov and thinking: Why do we need war? Don't you win the game by building up infra, cities, and projects? Sure, having a military (but not using it) helps a little, but ultimately I think war is overused and bad for this game. I'll explain why.1. Roleplay If you are the leader of a real-life nation, you wouldn't be in non-stop wars with 5 people. You would be sittingback and building, as you should be in this game. Warring decreases your approval, something extremely crucial to how happy your simulated citizens are. This is a nation-sim, roleplay is important-and realistically, constant war isn't a part of real nation-running. 2. Winning The Game You win the game with the most score. Constantly losing it in war just decreases your score and makes you less powerful. I think if someone is truly the best, it is one with stacks of land and infra that doesn't war and racks up score. Not many people do this. I have 2K infra in each of my 7 cities and I'm very high score for my size because of it.3. Getting rich War uses tons of money and resources. If you really want to be rich (you should, way better than war) , the best way is for you to just have tons of infra and commerce while producing resources and selling them for more cash. War uses valuable resources and makes you lose valuable infrastructure, which has to be paid for. Once it's over, even if you win, you realize how much you have lost. So, because of the reasons above, I send a message to all leaders: NO MORE WAR! Make the game something good with building up infra, land, resources, and cash. Have lots of treaties for defense if someone really is foolish enough to fight and waste time and money! Do more roleplay! Ultimately, war is pointless and not worth it. Would you rather constantly be destroyed and miserable, or rich and strong. Also, support my good ideas by upvoting. Thx Stop downvoting me. Let's face it: War is useless, and my alliance agrees. Most of the game agrees. 1 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveth Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Emperor Jonas said: You all are motherfricker !@#$es who can't seem to understand basic concepts. Great way to convince and represent the masses there, keep it up champ. Edited April 16, 2019 by Daveth 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kamea Arano Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 Is a downvote good enough for respect? 6 1 2 2 Terms of Service | Wiki | Contact Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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