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Alliance War Declarations and In-Game Surrenders


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10 hours ago, Balish said:

If 25% of the members of alliance A declares on alliance B they then enter into an alliance war that is visible and trackable in-game

I like this part. Maybe make it part of the treaty web in some way. I would like to see this.

10 hours ago, Balish said:

This alliance war continues until peace terms are sent from either Alliance A to B or B to A and accepted in the in-game mechanic.  These terms can include surrendering anthem rights, flag rights, taxes, a certain amount of money/resources, restrictions on treaty signings, and etc.

I don't like this part. I think it takes away from IC interaction and stuff. Implementation of peace terms among a losing party is part of the experience with government members communicating (or not communicating) about who's going to do what and when (or completely failing and then having to deal with the IC repercussions of it).

Automating such things takes away from the experience.

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7 minutes ago, Thalmor said:

I like this part. Maybe make it part of the treaty web in some way. I would like to see this.

I don't like this part. I think it takes away from IC interaction and stuff. Implementation of peace terms among a losing party is part of the experience with government members communicating (or not communicating) about who's going to do what and when (or completely failing and then having to deal with the IC repercussions of it).

Automating such things takes away from the experience.

But of course, there will be discussions in-character outside this automation mechanic.  These tools I am suggesting are to help the people writing peace treaties on discord servers and DMs.  These tools would give them more ways to negotiate, make the treaties better enforced, and give an official feel.  It would be cool to look on an alliance page and see the wars they lost/won and the peace terms that accompanied them.

This mechanic would not take away from the way terms are negotiated, it would only add.

 

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@Zevfer says to jump off a cliff.  He's kind of a jerk and it is OK to hate him.  I can share his link for you to roll him if you want.

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20 hours ago, Balish said:

But of course, there will be discussions in-character outside this automation mechanic.  These tools I am suggesting are to help the people writing peace treaties on discord servers and DMs.  These tools would give them more ways to negotiate, make the treaties better enforced, and give an official feel.  It would be cool to look on an alliance page and see the wars they lost/won and the peace terms that accompanied them.

This mechanic would not take away from the way terms are negotiated, it would only add.

 

Also,


@Zevfer says to jump off a cliff.  He's kind of a jerk and it is OK to hate him.  I can share his link for you to roll him if you want.

I don't see any value in this. Treaties should be enforced by the alliance that is responsible for enforcing. 

This also does not make the treaties enforceable, it just adds another place for them to be added which then makes the OWF pointless? 
Also how could the in-game mechanic make them enforceable? What if I wanted SK to always end a post with "I know why the kids love cinnamon toast". This can't do it, its just another way to put it down but I would have to check every post, right? So what do I gain?

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