Adrienne Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buorhann said: So was @MonkeyDLegend's ghost in TKR an actual ghosting or was he really mad at his situation in e$? Ok, I'm calling bullshit on this. Everything leading up to this statement sounded nice, but you were anything BUT transparent to me when I approached TKR leadership about the militarization before your hit on us. In fact, you were the complete opposite of it. Well, ok, maybe you guys being vague was indirectly being transparent, because that tipped me off that the war was going to happen no matter what. Monkey was an actual member for a brief period, not a ghost. And being transparent in regards to our CB when presenting it is different than not wanting to tip you off that we were hitting you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nizam Adrienne said: Monkey was an actual member for a brief period, not a ghost. And being transparent in regards to our CB when presenting it is different than not wanting to tip you off that we were hitting you. The tip off was already there. The CB wasn't until after you were pressured for it. EDIT: Just to clarify, I could care less about the CB itself. My argument is your claim of being transparent. That's definitely not the case. Edited November 3, 2018 by Buorhann 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Buorhann said: The tip off was already there. The CB wasn't until after you were pressured for it. Well, to be fair, the CB was in the DoW but not everyone got it, so it required a little more explanation afterwards. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Prefonteen said: Initially, I do not believe any of the mentioned parties put too much stock in the rumors. Shifty’s leaks while alarming in principle, were also from a messenger with questionable credibility. Particularly his tendency to position logs out of context or alter logs lowered the impact of his revelations. They did however contribute to an environment in which it became increasingly difficult to discern between legitimate intel and misdirection. I got mentioned ❤️ I'm so honored to have been a wild card and contributed to numerous headaches and increases in blood pressure. The medical studies are in, Shifty is bad for your stress levels, good for your metal health. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Buorhann said: The tip off was already there. The CB wasn't until after you were pressured for it. EDIT: Just to clarify, I could care less about the CB itself. My argument is your claim of being transparent. That's definitely not the case. You do realize she is talking about Transparency in the reason behind the war NOT transparency in who they are gonna roll. Those are 2 completely different things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Sephiroth said: You do realize she is talking about Transparency in the reason behind the war NOT transparency in who they are gonna roll. Those are 2 completely different things. I'm very much aware. I'm also aware of my conversations (Or attempts) behind the scenes, and I'm aware of other conversations had. As I said, transparency is a odd word for her to use in their ordeals. Either that, or she isn't aware of what her government members say (or do not say). 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyDLegend Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buorhann said: So was @MonkeyDLegend's ghost in TKR an actual ghosting or was he really mad at his situation in e$? Was going to say none of them, but i was mad for a bit tbh, but that was short lived. And i would have stayed in TKR if someone didn't poach me back Quote Former Manager t$ and Director of R&D Former Director of Finance, Security in e$ Founder of The Prate Syndicate(test server) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MonkeyDLegend said: Was going to say none of them, but i was mad for a bit tbh, but that was short lived. And i would have stayed in TKR if someone didn't poach me back Yeah, kinda funny how that worked out. Just as funny as how soon Hwan left TKR after the war too. After leaking his older DMs with Horsecock to TKR leadership, then later attempted to rejoin KT (And other alliances). Just a huge coincidence it seems for an alliance that likes to claim on being transparent. Edited November 4, 2018 by Buorhann 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyDLegend Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Buorhann said: Yeah, kinda funny how that worked out. Just as funny as how soon Hwan left TKR after the war too after leaking his older DMs with Horsecock to TKR leadership, then later attempted to rejoin KT (And other alliances). Just a huge coincidence it seems for an alliance that likes to claim on being transparent. i'm a bit unsure here but are you trying to compare me with someoneelse or just making a statement. XD For the third part, idk that'sa question for TKR top. Quote Former Manager t$ and Director of R&D Former Director of Finance, Security in e$ Founder of The Prate Syndicate(test server) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, MonkeyDLegend said: i'm a bit unsure here but are you trying to compare me with someoneelse or just making a statement. XD For the third part, idk that'sa question for TKR top. It was an observation. Nothing on you. Just in general. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Buorhann said: (Feel free to teach the snek a lesson in his efforts to hate on Hodor, who is nothing but a gentle giant with a big dick) Heh, that's rather amusing. Hey @J.A.Goldington, you wouldn't know anything about this bit, would you? solid logs, shiffty should be embarrassed you beat him to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) "The Empire, long united, must divide. The Empire, long divided, must unite." Simply put, sooner or later the Greater Easy-Mode Coalition would have broken up, simply because differing personalities on different sides of the fence, as well as differing ideological modes, meant that the components of GEMC would go at loggerheads. Both sides of the GEMC entered a spiral of paranoia, and ultimately, Syndisphere was able to convince IQ to assist in stomping Radiosphere and attack fortuitously. Were the attack to have happened in the other direction (TKR + IQ vs Syndisphere), the exact same excuse would have been used, i.e, Syndisphere attempting to rally the war that actually happened. Anyways, best of luck to all the other combatants. Edited November 4, 2018 by Inst 3 Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Inst said: "The Empire, long united, must divide. The Empire, long divided, must unite." Simply put, sooner or later the Greater Easy-Mode Coalition would have broken up, simply because differing personalities on different sides of the fence, as well as differing ideological modes, meant that the components of GEMC would go at loggerheads. Both sides of the GEMC entered a spiral of paranoia, and ultimately, Syndisphere was able to convince IQ to assist in stomping Radiosphere and attack fortuitously. Were the attack to have happened in the other direction (TKR + IQ vs Syndisphere), the exact same excuse would have been used, i.e, Syndisphere attempting to rally the war that actually happened. Anyways, best of luck to all the other combatants. t$ sphere didn't convince IQ m8. Nor was it the other way around. In case you wanna find out more, listen to Pre's interview on the hippo's last radio show. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Inst said: "The Empire, long united, must divide. The Empire, long divided, must unite." Simply put, sooner or later the Greater Easy-Mode Coalition would have broken up, simply because differing personalities on different sides of the fence, as well as differing ideological modes, meant that the components of GEMC would go at loggerheads. Both sides of the GEMC entered a spiral of paranoia, and ultimately, Syndisphere was able to convince IQ to assist in stomping Radiosphere and attack fortuitously. Were the attack to have happened in the other direction (TKR + IQ vs Syndisphere), the exact same excuse would have been used, i.e, Syndisphere attempting to rally the war that actually happened. Anyways, best of luck to all the other combatants. If anything this is a coalition, they simply both disliked the same opponents enough and decided to act on it, that is what coalitions do, and once this is over there is a good chance they will be at each others throats again 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefonteen Posted November 4, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Nizam Adrienne said: In regards to your CB itself, I’ve shared my thoughts with you privately and we’ve already decided to agree to disagree. There was one part, however, I found rather amusing in light of some additional information you decided to exclude from your post. Attempting to use these skirmishes as anecdotal evidence of our supposed lack of tolerance of “destabilizing elements” without acknowledging members of your sphere’s role in both hits is entertaining, to say the least. Your own alliance was present and included in the planning of the Nuke Bloc hit and only didn’t join at the last minute due to a miscommunication/lack of slots and Rose approached us specifically to try and involve themselves in the hit on TGH/KT, which we declined. This statement also runs with the assumption that punishing people dissenting from bipolarity was our goal, which, given your alliance’s participation in some of these, you’re fully aware wasn’t the objective. Despite the attempts of others to ascribe their own beliefs and viewpoints to our CBs, we pride ourselves on having remained as transparent and straightforward as we could have in regards to our motivations for the wars we have declared this year. I think you misunderstood an observation on ramifications of the political framework in which The $yndicate operated pre-split for a specific dig at you. If anything,. I'll bite though :). As I understand, from my predecessors, t$ was indeed set to join that war but with different motivations than you. If you recall, there was a leak which featured a nuke bloc representative prodding to see if they could get away with a hit on The $yndicate. That would have been The $yndicate's CB. I do not recall that to have been cited as yours. There is a distinction between removing dissenting factors and moving to safeguard your own security. With regards to acknowledgement however, I never claimed The $yndicate to be innocent of perpetuating the political dynamic of the past year. I did provide an account on how and why we ended up perpetuating it. The point which was being made was that the particular combination of bipolarity and tier consolidation had a restrictive effect on The $yndicate's (and I daresay, others') ability to fulfill its stated desires. Hence why it was relevant to provide that information as a background to our moves. Our potential involvement for very different reasons in one skirmish cited as anecdotal evidence is much less relevant to the broader point being made and was therefore left out. I do not believe your alliance's objective to have been the systematic removal of dissenting factors at all. But you were one of two actors locked in a cold war and and that rivalry overshadowed the remaining spheres. Was it the objective? I very much doubt it. Did it occur nonetheless as a result of natural tendencies? Yes. On both sides. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flame of the Flawed Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Prefonteen said: As I understand, from my predecessors, t$ was indeed set to join that war but with different motivations than you. If you recall, there was a leak which featured a nuke bloc representative prodding to see if they could get away with a hit on The $yndicate. That would have been The $yndicate's CB. I do not recall that to have been cited as yours. To clarify our involvement in the talks and planning leading up to that conflict (apart from the broader discussion of the thread), we did take part in both, but it wasn't a secret within the coalition of our dissatisfaction as to how the entire conflict and coalition planning had been handled. t$ had strong evidence that certain parties within NB had been looking to attack t$ and that was the basis of a potential CB. t$ initially viewed the potential conflict as being a much more limited conflict with far fewer involved parties. We weren't pleased though when the coalition greatly expanded with barely any consultation with t$ to what was destined to be a massive dogpile. I remember in particular voicing my dissatisfaction to Felkey in how everything had developed (t$ had wanted at most one other party involved in the initial strike, such as TCW or Guardian, and we had also initially been under the assumption that TKR would only be involved if the conflict expanded to Rose-sphere, which we thought was unlikely). We still planned on taking part initially though, due to the update for the blitz being imminent, and also that we had already communicated out to our members that war was imminent and to be prepared for the blitz (i.e. avoid blue balling them). But that was still under the assumption we'd be the only AA on Fark, but when it became clear that wasn't happening, that compounded with the earlier issues led to us withdrawing from the coalition strike since we felt it would be a boring dogpile that wasn't fulfilling our initial intent. Edited November 4, 2018 by Flame of the Flawed 1 10 Quote a.k.a. Chaunce Chaunce - Today at 9:55 PM with the watermelons there isn't much space left I still have a lot of room to improve Manthrax Has Venomous Bite! - Today at 9:57 PM Hee hee. Room indeed. Sabriel - Today at 10:01 PM I feel like, if the other AAs knew how we act, they'd feel a deep sense of shame in knowing that they consistently get beat by us. when we talk about how many vegetables we can fit in Chaunce's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 As a member with high level access to The Syndicate's affairs, I can confirm that we were 100% committed to unquestionably backing EMC forever until Partisan took over and ruined everything and absolutely no one else's conduct had anything at all to do with this. 5 Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post Chief Wiggum Posted November 9, 2018 Moderators Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 That's what I was told... ... but I am trusting you all, so I unlocked the thread, since there were quite a few members that wanted to continue the original discussion. In case you see new actions of flaming/derailing, etc. please let us know by reporting the corresponding posts or messaging me. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vack Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Chief Wiggum said: That's what I was told... ... but I am trusting you all, so I unlocked the thread, since there were quite a few members that wanted to continue the original discussion. In case you see new actions of flaming/derailing, etc. please let us know by reporting the corresponding posts or messaging me. Good mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 8:35 PM, Wilhelm the Demented said: As a member with high level access to The Syndicate's affairs, I can confirm that we were 100% committed to unquestionably backing EMC forever until Partisan took over and ruined everything and absolutely no one else's conduct had anything at all to do with this. Partisan is the worst mutual threat to have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 8:59 PM, Darth Revan said: Partisan is the worst mutual threat to have around. If you think you have it bad, just remind yourself that I had to lead an alliance with him. Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 2:59 AM, Darth Revan said: Partisan is the worst mutual threat to have around. 4 hours ago, Wilhelm the Demented said: If you think you have it bad, just remind yourself that I had to lead an alliance with him. fricking snowflakes you two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 22 hours ago, Wilhelm the Demented said: If you think you have it bad, just remind yourself that I had to lead an alliance with him. If you think you have it bad I have to work with him and talk to him regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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