Popular Post Sketchy Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2018 The propaganda thread was getting a bit cluttered so I'll probably just dump the daily (maybe) stats updates here. 28th October: Previous Days 27th October: 26th October: 25th October: 4 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 wen are we getting missiles and nukes launched wasted xP rawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 BK STRONK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Out of curiosity, how to the 28 city TCW deletions affect the stats? 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Olafr of the Faroes Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Malal said: Out of curiosity, how to the 28 city TCW deletions affect the stats? It's the only way to make TCW look better. 1 Quote "Don't argue with members of The Golden Horde. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Probably someone on OWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiho Nishizumi Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) If I recall, Sketchy already has the war data registered for those. In other words, those are still reflected in those stats. Edited October 28, 2018 by Shiho Nishizumi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Malal said: Out of curiosity, how to the 28 city TCW deletions affect the stats? In what way. If they had wars open, any damage they took before they deleted will be counted in the stats, just as if they left the AA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVDCCHN Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Thank you Sketchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorcock Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 GoB doing 1b damage everyday, only time before they begin losing more resources/infa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Zyphy said: GoB doing 1b damage everyday, only time before they begin losing more resources/infa. It's Grumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNG Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Micchan said: It's Grumpy 2 16 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erland Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 How are you calculating the value of infra lost and destroyed? I think the stat tracker is still inaccurate when it comes to infrastructure values. Also are you including alliance bank loot in the stats? I am so that might be why my loot values are slightly higher. Here's my version of the stats (as of yesterday): The infrastructure cost values did seem a bit high at first but I have been manually checking some of the individual wars and it seems to be valid. If anyone would like to check as well I have uploaded the raw data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqRVWuIKBnlG3sMI8alQTW_nHc1JWnRpXEB1Fv28IhA/edit?usp=sharing 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Erland said: How are you calculating the value of infra lost and destroyed? I think the stat tracker is still inaccurate when it comes to infrastructure values. Also are you including alliance bank loot in the stats? I am so that might be why my loot values are slightly higher. Here's my version of the stats (as of yesterday): The infrastructure cost values did seem a bit high at first but I have been manually checking some of the individual wars and it seems to be valid. If anyone would like to check as well I have uploaded the raw data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqRVWuIKBnlG3sMI8alQTW_nHc1JWnRpXEB1Fv28IhA/edit?usp=sharing Just the infra stat tracker. I'm aware its not 100% accurate, but I don't think the margin of error is that wide. Your infra stats still seem way way off to me. TKR dealt 33bn in infra damage alone? GOB has dealt 38bn? All your infra numbers seem to be close to exactly double that of the stat tracker values. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Erland said: How are you calculating the value of infra lost and destroyed? I think the stat tracker is still inaccurate when it comes to infrastructure values. Also are you including alliance bank loot in the stats? I am so that might be why my loot values are slightly higher. Here's my version of the stats (as of yesterday): The infrastructure cost values did seem a bit high at first but I have been manually checking some of the individual wars and it seems to be valid. If anyone would like to check as well I have uploaded the raw data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqRVWuIKBnlG3sMI8alQTW_nHc1JWnRpXEB1Fv28IhA/edit?usp=sharing I like his numbers better, we should go by his numbers. I ran some conservative numbers on the damage I have done so far, and alone I calculate that I have done around 2.5 billion in infra damage. Edited October 29, 2018 by Sweeeeet Ronny D 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sketchy said: Just the infra stat tracker. I'm aware its not 100% accurate, but I don't think the margin of error is that wide. Your infra stats still seem way way off to me. TKR dealt 33bn in infra damage alone? GOB has dealt 38bn? All your infra numbers seem to be close to exactly double that of the stat tracker values. Was the stat tracker ever updated by sheppy when he made change to infra values? Edited October 29, 2018 by 8mrgrim8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, 8mrgrim8 said: Was the stat tracker ever updated by sheppy when he made change to infra values? Good question, but if that is the case, then the real numbers should be lower than the stat tracker. Since sheepy made infra cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Erland said: How are you calculating the value of infra lost and destroyed? I think the stat tracker is still inaccurate when it comes to infrastructure values. Also are you including alliance bank loot in the stats? I am so that might be why my loot values are slightly higher. Here's my version of the stats (as of yesterday): The infrastructure cost values did seem a bit high at first but I have been manually checking some of the individual wars and it seems to be valid. If anyone would like to check as well I have uploaded the raw data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqRVWuIKBnlG3sMI8alQTW_nHc1JWnRpXEB1Fv28IhA/edit?usp=sharing From the raw data, how is nation ID assigned to each war since there's 2 nations involved. Is it just the attacking nations? @Sketchy or it could be completely off depending on when he actually made the stat tracker. He hasn't touched it for years from the looks of it. Also wouldn't the raw data he pulled be the same as the stat tracker so the infra values should match right or is he using his own formula to calculate infra values Edited October 29, 2018 by 8mrgrim8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, 8mrgrim8 said: From the raw data, how is nation ID assigned to each war since there's 2 nations involved. Is it just the attacking nations? @Sketchy or it could be completely off depending on when he actually made the stat tracker. He hasn't touched it for years from the looks of it. Also wouldn't the raw data he pulled be the same as the stat tracker so the infra values should match right or is he using his own formula to calculate infra values Hes using his own formula. As far as it being off, yer its off, but the difficulty is finding a better metric. I find the stat tracker to be mostly close most of the time which is better than nothing. The reason I find these stats weird is im not sure some of these alliances had enough infra to lose that much in the first place value wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erland Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, 8mrgrim8 said: From the raw data, how is nation ID assigned to each war since there's 2 nations involved. Is it just the attacking nations? Each war has two rows, one from the attacker's perspective and one from the defender's perspective. 19 minutes ago, Sketchy said: Just the infra stat tracker. I'm aware its not 100% accurate, but I don't think the margin of error is that wide. Your infra stats still seem way way off to me. TKR dealt 33bn in infra damage alone? GOB has dealt 38bn? All your infra numbers seem to be close to exactly double that of the stat tracker values. The issue with the stat tracker is that for a lot of the infra values, it shows a very low number and thus a lot of the stats are missing. For example, just choosing a random nation: https://politicsandwar.com/index.php?id=132&name=Archiana+Republic&type=nation&date=2018-10-20&submit=Go you can see that it shows the value of infrastructure lost as only $158 which is not reflective at all of the 330.8 relatively high level infrastructure that was actually lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorcock Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Micchan said: It's Grumpy I know, but what I'm saying is they won't last like this. Sooner or later they'll begin wasting more resources than dealing damage it's a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDunny Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Are you tracking the damage that they are doing to each other? Does that count as Damage Done and Damage Received? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Zyphy said: I know, but what I'm saying is they won't last like this. Sooner or later they'll begin wasting more resources than dealing damage it's a matter of time. same goes for the other side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibsheway Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Erland said: How are you calculating the value of infra lost and destroyed? I think the stat tracker is still inaccurate when it comes to infrastructure values. Also are you including alliance bank loot in the stats? I am so that might be why my loot values are slightly higher. Here's my version of the stats (as of yesterday): The infrastructure cost values did seem a bit high at first but I have been manually checking some of the individual wars and it seems to be valid. If anyone would like to check as well I have uploaded the raw data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqRVWuIKBnlG3sMI8alQTW_nHc1JWnRpXEB1Fv28IhA/edit?usp=sharing BK STRONK Edited October 29, 2018 by Moetaz 1 1 Quote ⲡⲓϣⲁⲉⲓ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'd have to agree with Erland, the "value of infra destroyed" is nonsense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Zyphy said: I know, but what I'm saying is they won't last like this. Sooner or later they'll begin wasting more resources than dealing damage it's a matter of time. Good news is when fighting against over 1300 nations, there are plenty of targets with tons of infra. If only they would peak out over that 5k NS mark, we could say hello. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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