丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Smith said: This is interesting. The timestamp says today. When are these logs with this anonymous individual from? If they're old and outdated you guys would have published them and "tried" to burn me. Obviously now you're just trying damage control. You're gonna need more than "well he doesn't give timestamps, look we got caught, but we won't release them to absolve ourselves, but hey don't worry about us, worry about him" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Titan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, Smith said: This is interesting. The timestamp says today. When are these logs with this anonymous individual from? I mean Adrienne is literally the only one who can answer this besides our leaker. If these logs are stale she should have no problem doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 59 minutes ago, Smith said: This is interesting. The timestamp says today. When are these logs with this anonymous individual from? Also, I looked on TKR discord and could not find the logs. Where did you get these? I doubt Niz would have a convo like this on P&W main, and I don't know how you would get this on DM (unless the other person leaked) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Kun -George Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Smith said: This is interesting. The timestamp says today. When are these logs with this anonymous individual from? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ryan1 said: Also, I looked on TKR discord and could not find the logs. Where did you get these? I doubt Niz would have a convo like this on P&W main, and I don't know how you would get this on DM (unless the other person leaked) Bro. Really? You can't be this obtuse. Typically people that discuss OPSEC things happen in private not on public servers etc AKA DMs or private servers/channels lol. Edited September 24, 2018 by Seeker 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felkey Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, LeotheGreat said: I mean Adrienne is literally the only one who can answer this besides our leaker. If these logs are stale she should have no problem doing so. Tbf, shifty's credibility is somewhere below that of a tabloid/conspiracy theorist. Pumping out irrelevant info or pure bs is kinda his thing 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Exar Kun -George Posted September 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Seeker said: Bro. Really? You can't be this obtuse. Typically people that discuss OPSEC things happen in private not on public servers etc AKA DMs or private servers/channels lol. Dont remember this? 7 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 @Pestilence Damn, log dumped again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own... 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nizam Adrienne said: Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own... What was said before that? Context would be nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betulius Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nizam Adrienne said: Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own... 3 Quote Dec 26 18:48:22 <JacobH[Arrgh]> God your worse the grealind >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Insert Name Here Posted September 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm not saying these Shifty logs are legit, but the fact that it has gotten several TKR sphere bigshots to post here (wihtout actually presenting any conclusive evidence as to why they're fake and attacking Shifty instead) makes me wonder. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Seeker said: What was said before that? Context would be nice. There's no context because this conversation doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nizam Adrienne said: Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own... In other news TKR is going back to OOC attacks on opponents. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Darth Revan said: In other news TKR is going back to OOC attacks on opponents. I know who can help in the event of an OOC attack - Alex to the rescue! o7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Nizam Adrienne said: Really, Shifty? Is it such a slow news day you're posting fake logs? While we're playing corrupt detective however, thought I'd share a fun revelation of my own... Damn they found out I'm Mitsuru's evil twin. Edited September 25, 2018 by ⚔ϟħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™⚔ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNG Posted September 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Insert Name Here said: I know who can help in the event of an OOC attack - Alex to the rescue! o7 DID SOMEONE SAY OOC ATTACKS?!? 4 18 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Insert Name Here said: I'm not saying these Shifty logs are legit, but the fact that it has gotten several TKR sphere bigshots to post here (wihtout actually presenting any conclusive evidence as to why they're fake and attacking Shifty instead) makes me wonder. To be fair, what evidence could they possibly present that would prove anything to everyone's satisfaction and not blow whatever opsec they've got left? Denial is pretty much their best bet right now. What else are they gonna do, post their actual war plans? Give everyone the full logs of their coalition chat? Maybe invite IQ and syndisphere ambassadors to their sekrit war discord? ... Actually. Why not? C'mon TKR, just do it! break the mold, change the meta! Prove you're different than the common pixelhugger alliance and play your cards face up; it's more fun than you think! After all... Edited September 25, 2018 by Sir Scarfalot 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Insert Name Here said: I'm not saying these Shifty logs are legit, but the fact that it has gotten several TKR sphere bigshots to post here (wihtout actually presenting any conclusive evidence as to why they're fake and attacking Shifty instead) makes me wonder. How do you prove something doesn't exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Smith said: How do you prove something doesn't exist? By trying not to handle it publicly for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoffaKnows Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Through all the politicking and back room treachery, we have lost sight of what is truly important.....Pineapple on pizza is disgusting. What is wrong with some of you people? 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Insert Name Here said: By trying not to handle it publicly for starters. When someone posts something like this in public for everyone to see you have to give some sort of public response for everyone to see. Otherwise the general public will only see one side of the story. I do agree though that actual reasonable discussion won't take place in public like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Inb4 IQ teams up with syndi to roll TKR and make them merge into BK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Smith said: When someone posts something like this in public for everyone to see you have to give some sort of public response for everyone to see. Otherwise the general public will only see one side of the story. I do agree though that actual reasonable discussion won't take place in public like this. I get what you're saying, and this is no shade: to me (and this is a personal opinion, might not be the proper way but that's what I'd do) TKR and TCW gov members feeling the need to reply to these logs in public makes you look guilty. I'm not claiming you are, nor do I have enough data to make an informed opinion. But what I'd do is ignore it and, when approached privately by the concerned parties, give a short answer where you basically state it's BS and go on about your business. Going to the concerned parties yourselves would also make you look guilty imo. At the end of the day the only thing it will change is people's perceptions. Those who are biased towards you will believe you, those who are biased against you will believe the logs. But for the average neutral, I reckon they'd be more inclined to think the logs were BS if there was no public reaction. I for one don't know. I've learned not to take logs at face value, but I won't claim they're false bceause I don't have enough info. To me this is just another one of Shifty's threads, which is by far the most interesting content on these forums, seen as everyhting else seems to be micro related garbage. Edited September 25, 2018 by Insert Name Here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Insert Name Here said: I get what you're saying, and this is no shade: to me (and this is a personal opinion, might not be the proper way but that's what I'd do) TKR and TCW gov members feeling the need to reply to these logs in public makes you seem guilty. I'm not claiming you are, nor do I have enough data to make an informed opinion. But what I'd do is ignore it and, when approached privately by the concerned parties, you just give a short answer where you basically state it's BS and go on about your business. Going to the concerned parties yourselves would also make you look guilty imo. At the end of the day the only thing it will change is people's perceptions. Those who are biased towards you will believe you, those who are biased against you will believe the logs. But for the average neutral, I reckon they'd be more inclined to thinkthe logs were BS if there was no public reaction. I for one don't know. I've learned not to take logs at face value, but I won't claim they're false bceause I don't have enough info. To me this is just another one of Shifty's threads, which is by far the most interesting content on these forums, seen as everyhting else seems to be micro related garbage. No offense taken! I appreciate you talking in good faith like that. I do think it's a lose-lose situation for us though. For everyone who thinks defending ourselves makes us look guilty there will be another guy going "look they won't even defend themselves they must be guilty." Even if the concerned parties believe you after talking with them that's still a lot of other people who may think differently of you now. And it's also possible the concerned parties wouldn't bother messaging us first if they believe the logs to be true. The burden is on us since we're the ones in the logs imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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