The Emperor Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 We would like to clear the air on this situation that arose in Pantheon over the last few days. First, the current government was installed according to the procedures outlined in the Constitution of Pantheon, and while some of the former government has departed, that decision was theirs and theirs alone. It was within the prior Titan’s power to resign and name their successor, and I was chosen. We can understand the controversy over choosing me when I had just rejoined, but it wasn’t a coup. A coup is an unlawful taking of power, not a lawful but controversial taking of power. And the prior Titan remains a member of Pantheon gov, and supports the current government. This was clearly no coup. Various members of Pantheon gov had requested my aid in fixing Pantheon for some time now, but I was happy in TKR and declined each time. When I heard about the merger, I didn’t want to see them go out like that, and decided to offer my services to the Titan at the time, and Ridcully agreed. Then I started to learn that gov was going to push the merger without even consulting the membership, and when I approached sphinx he said that he wasn’t serious about it and just wanted to use the merger to get old gov like me back in to "save" the AA... So I quickly cancelled the idea of the merge and -everyone in our discord was thrilled about this and our new direction. It is also true that belligerent rhetoric was used against people who didn’t deserve the labels that were affixed to them. Yui is a good person, and we recognize her contributions to Pantheon during her term of service. We also recognize that this is a difficult situation for her. Shifty, or whoever provided the logs to shifty, left out some key parts. I pushed back on those statements and opposed that language. See the below: https://imgur.com/aV6KRgYhttps://imgur.com/om4afoE This doesn’t change the fact on the ground that certain elements of the former government have worked with the government of TCW in order to pursue their own interests. I’m sorry for the small size of these logs, but they show our point.https://imgur.com/k2cW736https://imgur.com/0YzfKZPhttps://imgur.com/SBhgZzFhttps://imgur.com/n1ldkPU Following this, we saw that former Pantheon gov member went on to steal the bank and provide a large portion of it to TCW, even after admitting that it wasn’t a coup. We also see a push for a true coup against the current gov. Additionally, it is nearly impossible to see all that at this critical juncture, along with the deletion of Pantheon’s Discord channels by another former Panth gov who is now in TCW, as anything but a concerted effort to undermine Pantheon. With these logs, the bank theft, and the discord deletion all in mind, how is it unreasonable to come to the conclusion that foreign powers are trying to destabilize Pantheon? And why are they so focused on destabilizing us? Some members of TCW have done a lot for us in the past, but some are also clearly now trying to hurt us. It would require us to ignore all the evidence to take a position that these outside parties all simply have our best interests at heart. I would like to thank all of the Pantheon members willing to join us on this journey, and all the friends and allies that stood firm by us in these trying times. Thank you, we couldn't of done it without you. Pantheon is going to move forward! 5 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kastor Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 No one can read your logs, mate. 1 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygon Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Godspeed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dynamic Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Kastor said: No one can read your logs, mate. 12 Quote Horizon Guard of Rose Internal Affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 As someone who used to be in Pantheon...long live Pantheon! Good Luck as you go forward! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mitsuru Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: See the below: https://imgur.com/aV6KRgYhttps://imgur.com/om4afoE Looks just like more unproven slander against someone like cakey. You have literally no business in Pantheon for months and then you come back and accuse cakey of being involved in a plot. Your new head of FA lies about Yui and calls her a terrorist and traitor and you "recognize her contributions". You abandoned Pantheon and she saved Pantheon's ass. You let RightHonorable post these things in your alliance and one of your members has made it possible for everyone to see that. You're responsible for his actions and don't condemn what he did or what he said. You're complicit in this and it shows what kind of person you are. It's also nice to see that @RightHonorable seems to be able to upvote your post but is not able to say something about the crap he has posted in your alliance. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just now, Diomedes said: As someone who used to be in Pantheon...long live Pantheon! Good Luck as you go forward! You literally come out of nowhere every 2-3 months and make a post like this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yeah the logs are hard to read, but they are readable =/ Sorry to put you all through it =/ 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kastor said: You literally come out of nowhere every 2-3 months and make a post like this. So, untrue, @kastor. But, then again no one is suprised you would come and post idiotic comments like this! Meritless! Edited May 18, 2018 by Diomedes 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keza Purple Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 sorry to "put you all through it"? Quote <Dragonk>Like I drink beer, nto it "You couldn't live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justin076 Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 Glad to see the guy who as leader, abandoned Pantheon at war is back to save the day. Order of business: 1. Change charter, take ultimate power. 2: Remove majority of government. 3: Attack, plot and shame former Pantheon leaders and members who helped repair Pantheon after you abandoned them the first time. 4: Actively plot against TCW and get leaked. 5: Treaty IQ? 1 16 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNG Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Justin076 said: 5: Treaty IQ? Oh no, did Pantheon leak that part of the plan too? Aw shucks, guess NPO and BK will just have to make the MDPs secret. Edited May 18, 2018 by TheNG Edit: This is a joke for the record, smh people 1 7 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felkey Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 Since these are basically unreadable how about I just tell them what was in those logs? After you took information I shared with you in confidence (about the merger) given you were one of pantheon's founders and took over the government, you changed the charter without discussion to give yourself supreme control. You then stripped existing gov of their perms in game... Except one. I went to that one person to ask them to appoint themself as leader in game and remove you so that the situation could be sorted out without this insanity. They initially refused, but after another day of watching you disgrace Pantheon they left and took the bank. I have been very open with our allies about this, so it's not like it's anything new to them. I took a shot to stop a hostile take over of the alliance I started put in. An alliance I had many friends in, including many who came over to TCW. Edit: you also forgot to mention I did return the portion of the bank I had access to, despite having no pressing reason to, beyond it being the right thing to do. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arkiri Arch Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 "Pantheon is back in the game" When was Pantheon ever in the game?? 9 Quote Officer Nasty reporting for duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Felkey said: Since these are basically unreadable how about I just tell them what was in those logs? After you took information I shared with you in confidence (about the merger) given you were one of pantheon's founders and took over the government, you changed the charter without discussion to give yourself supreme control. You then stripped existing gov of their perms in game... Except one. I went to that one person to ask them to appoint themself as leader in game and remove you so that the situation could be sorted out without this insanity. They initially refused, but after another day of watching you disgrace Pantheon they left and took the bank. I have been very open with our allies about this, so it's not like it's anything new to them. I took a shot to stop a hostile take over of the alliance I started put in. An alliance I had many friends in, including many who came over to TCW. Edit: you also forgot to mention I did return the portion of the bank I had access to, despite having no pressing reason to, beyond it being the right thing to do. I'm grateful you admitted to this on the OWF, thank you, it is very interesting 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felkey Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: I'm grateful you admitted to this on the OWF, thank you, it is very interesting So you don't deny taking advantage of privileged information for personal gain and rewriting the charter without discussion or input, thank you, it is very interesting. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'll be honest, I talked mad shit about pantheon and Fist - especially when he dipped during war for what seemed like a childish reason. Shit was talked, I think I said things like Pantheon is trash, shit, garbage, horrible should be rolled, among other things. That being said though, I had the opportunity to invest cash and resources into Pantheon in its infancy & be a member so there is some history there. I'm a little confused why people take so much interest in a seemingly dead alliance prior to all this talk about the merge and stuff, shit happens I guess. Never the less, I am actually glad to see some type of restructuring and rebuilding going on internally and I look forward to what comes next - hoping it isn't the projected 'shit' from my previous words in this post. Regardless if you took power or not, at least do something with it now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mad Max said: I'll be honest, I talked mad shit about pantheon and Fist - especially when he dipped during war for what seemed like a childish reason. Shit was talked, I think I said things like Pantheon is trash, shit, garbage, horrible should be rolled, among other things. That being said though, I had the opportunity to invest cash and resources into Pantheon in its infancy & be a member so there is some history there. I'm a little confused why people take so much interest in a seemingly dead alliance prior to all this talk about the merge and stuff, shit happens I guess. Never the less, I am actually glad to see some type of restructuring and rebuilding going on internally and I look forward to what comes next - hoping it isn't the projected 'shit' from my previous words in this post. Regardless if you took power or not, at least do something with it now. That's the plan my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: That's the plan my friend Good! Ya better mfricker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowColor Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: We would like to clear the air on this situation that arose in Pantheon over the last few days. First, the current government was installed according to the procedures outlined in the Constitution of Pantheon, and while some of the former government has departed, that decision was theirs and theirs alone. It was within the prior Titan’s power to resign and name their successor, and I was chosen. We can understand the controversy over choosing me when I had just rejoined, but it wasn’t a coup. A coup is an unlawful taking of power, not a lawful but controversial taking of power. And the prior Titan remains a member of Pantheon gov, and supports the current government. This was clearly no coup. Various members of Pantheon gov had requested my aid in fixing Pantheon for some time now, but I was happy in TKR and declined each time. When I heard about the merger, I didn’t want to see them go out like that, and decided to offer my services to the Titan at the time, and Ridcully agreed. Then I started to learn that gov was going to push the merger without even consulting the membership, and when I approached sphinx he said that he wasn’t serious about it and just wanted to use the merger to get old gov like me back in to "save" the AA... So I quickly cancelled the idea of the merge and -everyone in our discord was thrilled about this and our new direction. It is also true that belligerent rhetoric was used against people who didn’t deserve the labels that were affixed to them. Yui is a good person, and we recognize her contributions to Pantheon during her term of service. We also recognize that this is a difficult situation for her. Shifty, or whoever provided the logs to shifty, left out some key parts. I pushed back on those statements and opposed that language. See the below: https://imgur.com/aV6KRgYhttps://imgur.com/om4afoE This doesn’t change the fact on the ground that certain elements of the former government have worked with the government of TCW in order to pursue their own interests. I’m sorry for the small size of these logs, but they show our point.https://imgur.com/k2cW736https://imgur.com/0YzfKZPhttps://imgur.com/SBhgZzFhttps://imgur.com/n1ldkPU Following this, we saw that former Pantheon gov member went on to steal the bank and provide a large portion of it to TCW, even after admitting that it wasn’t a coup. We also see a push for a true coup against the current gov. Additionally, it is nearly impossible to see all that at this critical juncture, along with the deletion of Pantheon’s Discord channels by another former Panth gov who is now in TCW, as anything but a concerted effort to undermine Pantheon. With these logs, the bank theft, and the discord deletion all in mind, how is it unreasonable to come to the conclusion that foreign powers are trying to destabilize Pantheon? And why are they so focused on destabilizing us? Some members of TCW have done a lot for us in the past, but some are also clearly now trying to hurt us. It would require us to ignore all the evidence to take a position that these outside parties all simply have our best interests at heart. I would like to thank all of the Pantheon members willing to join us on this journey, and all the friends and allies that stood firm by us in these trying times. Thank you, we couldn't of done it without you. Pantheon is going to move forward! lie, lie, and lie. no one is destabilizing your alliance. I told them to follow their heart and left pantheon because of your unauthorized power to change the system of pantheon. Today, I see that some pantheon choose tCW, Rose, and other AAs for followed their heart. What is the best suggestion for Pantheon: just let pantheon go and just go back to your AA where you left and let members to choose other AA. They can be allow to follow their heart; not your unauthorized power leader who abandoned Pantheon during the war and rejoin it as the joke is real. #PantheonLiedtoUs #AbusedPower #FakeNews #TrumpsFavoriteGovernment I bet that Fist will abandon Pantheon again when there is new war. Edited May 18, 2018 by Color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Color said: lie, lie, and lie. no one is destabilizing your alliance. I told them to follow their heart and left pantheon because of your unauthorized power to change the system of pantheon. Today, I see that some pantheon choose tCW, Rose, and other AAs for followed their heart. What is the best suggestion for Pantheon: just let pantheon go and just go back to your AA where you left and let members to choose other AA. They can be allow to follow their heart; not your unauthorized power leader who abandoned Pantheon during the war and rejoin it as the joke is real. #PantheonLiedtoUs #AbusedPower #FakeNews #TrumpsFavoriteGovernment I bet that Fist will abandon Pantheon again when there is new war. The facts paint a different story I'm afraid, and ofcourse, if anyone doesn't want to rebuild the AA with me then I encourage them to leave ofc!(This is jsut a game, people should do what makes them happy). It's not going to be easy. But to say TCW is not destabilizing us is untrue, and you are believing a lie =/ Edited May 18, 2018 by The God Emperor of Mankind Typo blah 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RightHonorable Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Color said: lie, lie, and lie. no one is destabilizing your alliance. I told them to follow their heart and left pantheon because of your unauthorized power to change the system of pantheon. Today, I see that some pantheon choose tCW, Rose, and other AAs for followed their heart. What is the best suggestion for Pantheon: just let pantheon go and just go back to your AA where you left and let members to choose other AA. They can be allow to follow their heart; not your unauthorized power leader who abandoned Pantheon during the war and rejoin it as the joke is real. #PantheonLiedtoUs #AbusedPower #FakeNews #TrumpsFavoriteGovernment I bet that Fist will abandon Pantheon again when there is new war. The legitimacy of the government is not in question, all proper constitutional processes were followed, it is a complete non-issue. On your second point, are you claiming that deleting all of an alliance's Discord channels, and stealing the bank of the alliance isn't an effort to destabilize the alliance? If people want to choose a different path for their future, they are free to do so, but we are talking about two completely different things here 1 2 Quote Haatyc or'arue jate'shya ori'sol aru'ike nuhaatyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted May 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: -Words- Weren't you the guy that ran away from leadership and the AA right before TEst hit you all? I find the idea of you being the one who "saves" anyone to be.. Well, lackng. I had the pleasure of dealing with Yui during that rough time for Pantheon, and there have been few people to earn my respect quicker than Yui. If anyone is needed to lead Pantheon, it's Yui. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowColor Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Prefontaine said: -words- Yes! he is. Today, you know that he is REAL Fist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Justin076 said: 5: Treaty IQ? Don't let Syndicate know. I'm waiting for them to look further into their protection. 1 hour ago, TheNG said: Oh no, did Pantheon leak that part of the plan too? Aw shucks, guess NPO and BK will just have to make the MDPs secret. This is great. 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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